GTPLMS Round 5 - 24 Laps of Le Mans

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Welcome to the GTPLMS

Round 5: 24 Laps of Le Mans

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Round 5
Track: Circuit de la Sarthe 1 - 8.48 miles (13.65 km)
Deadline: November 30 @ 5p CST (GMT -6)


Winding through the French countryside, LMS racers return "home" to one of endurance racing's premier event. The twisting stadium section, undulating backroads, and the awesome speeds of Mulsanne and Indianapolis are all features of this one-of-a-kind track.
***Attention Racers. Important Event Information***
Official statement from the GTMSA.
"After review of the previous results for the last five rounds (including the pre-season event) and further testing by GTMSA personnel, it's been decided that only one competition adjustment was necessary. In Grand Touring, the Mazda RX7 LM will have 9kg added to the overall weight, bringing it up to 1067kg from 1058kg. It was discussed that the addition was too small, but it is the belief of GTMSA that small adjustments were better than a "knee-jerk" reaction to tyre technology and driver skill.
The only team effected by this change is the DrewpyBalls OAP Comedy Racing Team. Driver Drew22 couldn't be reached for comment, but when informed of the change, teammate Ballstothewall had this to say:
"I don't $*%^ing believe this. I mean we have put so much time into testing and getting things just right, and these GTMSA guys come in and tell us we're TOO fast? This is some bull@%^! right here. I guess we'll just have to prove what we can do huh?"

Secondly, BOB will be making his second appearance at Le Mans. BOB will be running a MINIMUM of 4 laps at Le Mans, and it doesn't matter when the stint is. BOB is allowed to run RSS as well as the normal RS, RM, and RH.

Third and finally, the submission date is correct. Racers will get two weeks to submit times. This is due to the length of the track, the length of the race, and fact that I DON'T WANT TO WORK OVER THANKSGIVING (American, sorry guys). Mainly 1 and 2. So good luck and lets get down to business.
Entry List with Points shown below
Prototype 1:
Code:
[u][b]Driver:		Total Pts:	Car:                    [/u][/b]
[b]Delfino[/b]		35pts		[u]#18 Dell Audi R8[/u]
[b]ICallShotgun[/b]	26pts		[u]#16 Norcold Dyson BMW V12LMR[/u]
[b]RACECAR[/b]		22pts		[u]#12 HP BMW V12LMR[/u]
[b]Earth[/b]		17pts		[u]#6 Microsoft Pescarolo PS2[/u]
[b]east[/b]		13ts		[u]#13 GranTurismo Audi R8[/u]
[b]racefan88501[/b]	12pts		[u]#1 Dell Audi R8[/u]
[b]GTXDriver[/b]	6pts		[u]#14 GranTurismo Audi R8[/u]
[b]nitro_2005[/b]	1pts		[u]#11 Heineken Pescarolo PS2[/u]
[b]ls2_297[/b]		0pts		[u]#17 Playstation Pescarolo PS2[/u]
Prototype 2:
Code:
[u][b]Driver:		Total Pts:	Car:                    [/u][/b]
[b]Delfino[/b]		38pts		[u]#28 Lowes BMW V12LM[/u]
[b]ICallShotgun[/b]	38pts		[u]#33 Intersport Pescarolo C60[/u]
[b]racefan88501[/b]	21pts		[u]#21 Lowes BMW V12LM[/u]
[b]GT3Emperor[/b]	9pts		[u]#57 SuperPro Racing BMW V12LM[/u]
[b]PitwrkzZ1[/b]	8pts		[u]#22 Deutsche-Bank XMarkets BMW V12LM[/u]
[b]m.piedgros[/b]	0pts		[u]#36 Deutsche-Bank XMarkets BMW V12LM[/u]
[b]Ford_Fan90[/b]	0pts		[u]#37 Deutsche-Bank XMarkets BMW V12LM[/u]
Grand Touring Sport:
Code:
[u][b]Driver:		Total Pts:	Car:                    [/u][/b]
[b]Drew22[/b]		42pts		[u]#45 Sanatogen BMW McLaren F1 GTR[/u]
[b]Delfino[/b]		26pts		[u]#68 Dell Chevy Corvette C5R[/u]
[b]ICallShotgun[/b]	26pts		[u]#53 Visteon Dodge Viper GTS[/u]
[b]BallstotheWall[/b]	20pts		[u]#54 Sanatogen BMW McLaren F1 GTR[/u]
[b]GT3Emperor[/b]	16pts		[u]#56 Super Pro Racing Pagani Zonda LM[/u]
[b]racefan88501[/b]	6pts		[u]#41 Dell Cehvy Corvette C5R[/u]
[b]PitwrkzZ1[/b]	2pts		[u]#42 Motorola BMW McLaren F1 GTR[/u]
[b]m.piedgros[/b]	0pts		[u]#63 Bentley Publishing Panoz Esperante GTR-1[/u]
[b]ls2_297[/b]		0pts		[u]#64 GM Goodwrench Chevy Corvette C5R[/u]
Grand Touring:
Code:
[u][b]Driver:		Total Pts:	Car:                    [/u][/b]
[b]BallstotheWall[/b]	39pts		[u]#69 Dark Dog Mazda RX7 LM[/u]
[b]Drew22[/b]		37pts		[u]#96 Dark Dog Mazda RX7 LM[/u]
[b]oldphart[/b]	22pts		[u]#76 DHL Ford GT LM SpecII[/u]
[b]Delfino[/b]		13pts		[u]#78 Red Bull Nissan 350Z LM[/u]
[b]GTXDriver[/b]	9pts		[u]#99 Hewlett-Packard Mazda RX8 LM[/u]
[b]GT3Emperor[/b]	8pts		[u]#50 Super Pro Chevy Camaro LM[/u]
[b]east[/b]		8pts		[u]#66 Hewlett-Packard Mazda RX8 LM[/u]
[b]ICallShotgun[/b]	7pts		[u]#84 BMW Finance BMW M3 GTR[/u]
[b]RACECAR[/b]		2pts		[u]#82 Red Bull BMW M3 GTR[/u]
[b]racefan88501[/b]	2pts		[u]#77 Red Bull Nissan 350Z LM[/u]
[b]CAMikaze[/b]	1pts		[u]#65 Goodyear Chevy Camaro LM[/u]
[b]Ford_Fan90[/b]	0pts		[u]#74 DHL Ford GT LM SpecII[/u]

Rules and Regulations

All rules, car specifications, race procedures, and regulations are controlled by GTMSA. All questions should be directed to the race steward (ICallShotgun) and answers will be given in a timely manner.

Any lap times discussed or anything able to infer lap times are strictly prohibited. A 5 second penalty will be assessed for each instance of a lap time being discussed as judged by the Chief Steward.
This being said, sector times, or T-times, are allowed to be discussed.

Standard OLR rules apply
No cheats, hybrids, etc.
Two wheels on track at all times.
Rumble strips are part of the track
Don't touch the walls, they slow you down.
You must run cars to the given GTMSA specifications as seen below.

Qualifying (Hotlap)
Qualifying will take place in Arcade mode-->Time Trial-->World Circuits-->Sarthe I
Any tires are allowed (R1-R5) and any combination of tires.
TCS ONLY is available IF DESIRED, it is not mandatory
Gearing is free.

Race (24 laps)
Race will take place in Arcade Mode-->Single Race-->World Circuits-->Sarthe I
AI settings will be 7-10 for ALL classes.
AI will race on RH tires.
Tires are limited to RH, RM, RS or any combination ONLY.
TCS ONLY is available IF DESIRED, it is not mandatory
Gearing is free
Tirewear is set to STRONG
Penalty is set to SPEED LIMITER
These races are long. Small incidents will occur with the AI. These are racing incidents and are allowed by GTMSA. Besides, if something bad happens, you're going to want to re-start anyway.

Car specifications below​

These must be used at all times for proper GTPLMS racing.
Prototype 1:
Code:
[color=red]Car			Power	Weight
---------------------------------------[/color]
[size=2][color=darkred]______________[u]Prototype 1:[/u]___________________[/color][/size]
Audi R8 Race Car	900hp	936kg
BMW V12 LMR		904hp	936kg
Pescarolo PS2		904hp	936kg
[size=2][color=darkred]______________[u]Prototype 2:[/u]___________________[/color][/size]
Pescarolo C60		750hp	855kg
BMW V12 LM		748hp	855kg
[size=2][color=darkred]______________[u]Grand Touring Sport:[/u]___________[/color][/size]
Pagani Zonda LM		644hp	1150kg
BMW McLaren F1 GTR	590hp	1045kg
Chevy Corvette C5R	652hp	1150kg
Dodge Viper Oreca	640hp	1150kg
Panoz Esperante GTR-1	652hp	1150kg
[size=2][color=darkred]______________[u]Grand Touring:[/u]_________________[/color][/size]
BMW M3 GTR Race Car	497hp	1052kg
Mazda RX-7 Race Car	495hp	[u]1067[/u]kg
Mazda RX-8 Race Car	501hp	1056kg
Chevy Camaro Race Car	515hp	1044kg
Nissan 350Z LM Concept	500hp	1052kg
Ford GT LM Spec II	503hp	1062kg

TIME SENDING FORMAT
Since I'll be doing the bulk of the work, I'd like the times set to me as follows
Please limit to one time submission per race.

Driver:
Class:
Car Number:

Qualifying
Lap Time:
mm:ss.xxx format please

Race
Total Time:
Best Lap:
BOB Stint Laps:


Good luck Gentlemen, don't fall asleep at the wheel!
 
Great, huh Neil, now we have the most weight and the least horsepower!!! No worries, that's not about to stop DrewpyBalls, we may be dragging them on the floor but we can still drive!!!
 
Great, huh Neil, now we have the most weight and the least horsepower!!! No worries, that's not about to stop DrewpyBalls, we may be dragging them on the floor but we can still drive!!!

Yeah! You are right there Andy!
Bloody bureaucrats!
Almost as bad as the European Parliament saying us Brit's can't have the banana's we like because they are 'too curved'! :grumpy:

Highest weight, lowest power...........greatest skill!

Mind you, saying that, my performance round Infineon was appalling, I think!:indiff:

As I said, there had to be a chink in the armour somewhere. :sly:

Bring it on!

Neil
 
Hey Chris!

I have a slightly clearer track-map if you would like it!



Even after the sabotage!

Neil
 
Looks like theres plenty of tyre options here , especially for the LM's , was hoping Bob was going to get 2 stints , nevertheless its interesting to note he has the choice to run more than just 4 laps :crazy:

Dels racing in 4 classes , so he's glad there are 2 weeks to get times in 👍

GT's will get one chance only .. the LM's will be very interesting to race ... and the pit crew will be taking extra time to get tyre strategy correct .
 
"Oh no, make no mistake....it's not revenge he's after, it's a reckoning!"

(response by Doc Holliday about Wyatt Earp's battle with the Clantons from the movie: Tombstone)

"The Super Pro Racing Team is on a warpath. We want to even the score. We've been unable to secure a race win, but very soon....some hapless team will let down their guard and we'll attack with the vicious rage of a lion tearing at the throat of a wildebeest on Africa's Serengiti." Those are the somewhat heated words from a Super Pro Racing driver as they hurriedly load up for their trip to Circuit de la Sarthe.

The teams Race Director made the comment..."If we convert our speed in qualifying and figure out this, 'lack of speed on race tires' issue.....the added weight on the RX-7s might contibute to a victory somewhere. That hope is about all we have right now for GT Class. In the GTS class, we've got similar issues. P2 Class looks like a more level playing field...so those guys need to watch their backs!".

That's how it stands as the teams prepare to face new challenges at the next venue.

💡 :)
 
Official DrewpyBalls OAP Racing Team press release #2
I went to the DrewpyBalls camp in the paddock this morning, to talk to the team about the weight adjustments just announced...........

"We were mad as a barrel full of monkeys hopped up on crank, when we heard about this weight adjustment!
But now, we are of the opinion that, it was inevitable!"
Said the DrewpyBalls team boss John Smith, dressed in his usual black suit and tie, and putting on his rectangular rim-less sunglasses.

The driver's were sanguine about it though, and although Neil's initial comments to the GTPLMSA were virtually unprintable, we approached him again.

"What the hell?" he said;
"We knew that there was gonna be an adjustment, and we knew it was gonna be to our ride.
But 9Kg isn't that much really, I'll just have to lay off those big breakfasts before the race. That should help!"
"We know we have the skills to keep winning, and we definately have the hunger to keep on winning. A little extra effort is all it'll take!
I know I didn't perform well at Infineon, but to be honest I absolutely detest the track, there's something about it that just doesn't gel with me at all. But I love Le Sarthe, this is where these cars really belong. And the RX-7 loves to stretch it's legs down the straights as well as hugging the curbs at full throttle, in the stadium sections."
When asked if we could speak to Andy, and get his thoughts on recent developements, Neil told us he was still recovering after celebrating his win, and it would be best to leave talking to him till he came to us!
"He's a bit grumpy at the moment, I told him the Tequila wasn't a good idea!"

So I guess, we will just have to wait and see how the adjustment effects the performance of the RX-7 GT2 car, but it seems that the drivers and team, although not happy at first, will just battle on to (hopefully) victory yet again.
As a final parting comment, Neil said "I really don't care who wins, as long as it's us! And we will!"


Neil:D
 
:) :sly:

"You're right...9kg aint much. If it were up to the Super Pro Racers, we'd chain a Subaru 360 to you's guy's rear bumpers and make you's ride on Michelin High mileage radials pirated from a '58 Buick Roadmaster."

Well, that's my chief mechanic, Bubba's response to your little 9 kg dilemma. He's a little high-strung and tends to get really emotional....anger management sessions haven't helped. So, please excuse his verbal attacks. His attitude does not reflect the attitude of the team.

Well...maybe, just a little....we can agree on the Subaru 360, but the Michelins is definitely overkill.

:)
 
After seeing the Infineon results and testing the RX7 out myself I have to say 9kg isnt going to make any difference at all to the results. I was right about the RX7 in the first place, it has a huge tyre advantage! A two stop strategy around Infineon doing 5/5/5 on Soft tyres is an impossibilty with the RX8, the RX7 is so easy on its tyres it does it like its no big deal at all!

It seems OldPhart is the only other one with a car similarly easy on its tyres as the RX7 (though I havnt tested the Ford for myself).
 
"We know we have the skills to keep winning, and we definately have the hunger to keep on winning. I love Le Sarthe, this is where these cars really belong. And the RX-7 loves to stretch it's legs down the straights as well as hugging the curbs at full throttle, in the stadium sections." I guess, we will just have to wait and see how the adjustment effects the performance of the RX-7 GT2 car, but it seems that the drivers and team, although not happy at first, will just battle on to (hopefully) victory yet again. As a final parting comment, Neil said "I really don't care who wins, as long as it's us! And we will!"
Neil:D

Hmmmm .. ran GT2 last night and had lots of fun slip-streaming the M3 for probably half the race .. thing was .. i never got a gilmpse , let alone a chance to smell the exhaust fumes of the RX7 .. it just disappeared into the distance 👍 :grumpy: .....
Looks like that 9 kg's hasnt made much of a difference .. team DARK DOG has lost too much weight skimping breakfast { rumour has it BALLS and DREW are eating just one cornflake with one drop of milk and one sugar grain every morning .. in an effort to counter balance their weight 'penalty' }

Del was seen heading for the rear entrance of the Mazda sponsors tent .. in an effort to sign up for a team drive for next years championship .
 
Well, (takes a deep breath, and lights up a ciggie)

I have just finished a full race in the MacLaren, on medium fronts/hard rears. Talk about making a pussy-cat into a b;tch-kitty!

It has taken me most of the afternoon and most of the evening just to get that one, error/collision/fracking stupid AI hitting me in the rear, free race! And I have to say it was the most nerve wracking race I have EVER done!

5 lap stints, 5 laps for Bob! (had to keep adjusting his aggression levels throughout each lap, cos he would try to be a smart-ass in the chicanes and Porche curves, and nearly going off)

Will make adjustments to my strategy for tommorrow, he lost me 40 seconds in 5 laps!
Was 20 secs in the lead when he took over, ended up 20 seconds behind the Merc at hand-over. And I never recovered from it, but I did end up only 9 seconds down at the line.
So only 4 laps for him tomoz, fracking muppet!

@Gun!
Wish we could at least discuss fastest laps, Chris! This is an hour and a huge fraction race, so what would be the harm?

Neil
 
@Gun!
Wish we could at least discuss fastest laps, Chris! This is an hour and a huge fraction race, so what would be the harm?

Neil

The only problem I have w/ this is the smarter ones of us could get a REALLY good idea of what your total time is. Most of us are w/in .5 sec / lap, and even with a +/- 12sec, that's a pretty good idea of someone's total time, and w/ pretty much 80% of the field is w/in that amount of time, i'm not entirely comfortable w/ being able to do this.

That being said, i'm not inflexible. I have no problem with, and infact mention in the race threads, that sector times are allowed. Personally, i go off of my Mulsanne split, my Indianapolis split (i love that complex) and that's it, but all 6 (?) sectors can be discussed.

Also, if it is the will of the people (after all, i'm not a dictator...sometimes), for THIS RACE ONLY i'd be willing to allow it, but first, i'd like to get opinions in the thread before people go posting willy-nilly. Let me know and i might take it out of the rules.

c
 
I'd think discussing sectors up to say sector 4 would be safe. It's done weekly in the WRS but there you can discuss usually 2 of 3 sectors. Wouldn't be comfy discussing 5 or 6 for Chris's reasons. And also as per Chris, for this race only. To be honest I seldom even glance at my sector times....I've lost concentration as well as control on too many occasions because of them. If they're on a nice straight OK, but my concentration cells have been nearly completely eradicated...self inflicted I should add.
 
I don't like specific sector time info....it can discourage drivers more than encourage.

I like information that gives you an idea of the performance capability of the competition, but in terms that don't tell exactly where you are on the track.

What does that mean?

For example as measured with cars in 'Qualifying' trim:

"Top speed" for example in the straight before the first chicance.....tells you something about performance, but nothing about track position in relation to the other drivers.

"Elapsed time in specific sectors": for example, at Sarthe I, calculating the elapsed time between T-6 and the finish line....tells you, maybe how well the car and driver handle that sector of curves, but doesn't tell you whether he will be ahead or behind you when you get there in the race.

That kind of information can't be used to figure a lap time, or cause anyone to think they have no chance to catch up by the end of the lap. In the WRS, you pretty much know who is going to win because, if you're 9 tenths behind at the last sector, you pretty much know you're not making up 9 tenths in the last sector.
 
Obviously I will bow to the opinions of the majority here guys, and of course to Chris's decision, but here are my thoughts.....

In a race of this length, we have many factors that will make it difficult to work-out anything like an accurate race-time from a fastest lap.

There are tyre compound choices, pit-stop strategies, mistakes, penaties, in-laps on hot tyres, out-laps on cold tyres, fuel-load, re-fueling strategy, the frackin AI getting in the way and lastly and not leastly BOB!

All of these factors will effect the final time regardless of what the fastest lap time is.

Given all of these variables, even myself or Andy, who in the DTM series could work out the bogus times in a heartbeat, wouldn't be able to get a race-time from a fastest lap-time within a margin of about a minute and a half.
Given that even the most consistant driver will have approx a 1/2 - 1 second variance on mid-race lap-times, their in/out laps, AI in the way laps, and BOB laps would multiply the errors grossly.
Fueling strategy can add 20 seconds on it's own, I found that out while sitting in the pits with a new set of tyres already on and having to wait for the final 35 litres of fuel to go in.
So really, I don't see the harm in a race of this length.

But as I said, I will abide by the majority and Chris's choice.

Neil:)
 
Even if you could figure around about what someones final times are going to be, we can only do what we can do, I mean knowing what their result might be is not going to change what your result is, though I do agree it can be discourageing if you cant keep up, but it also gives you something to aim at. Whatever decision is made though is fine by me. How about make a rule where if you want to know someones best time or splits you pm them and they HAVE to tell you, so the ones who want to know peoples splits can and the ones who dont want to know dont have to. LOL thats probably a corny idea but oh well, thought id throw it out there anyway :dopey:

Shotgun, are we allowed to use the Red colored tarmac stuff? What about the tarmac beyond some rumble strips like at the turn 1 chicane? I want this to be made clear please, thanks.
 
Shotgun, are we allowed to use the Red colored tarmac stuff? What about the tarmac beyond some rumble strips like at the turn 1 chicane? I want this to be made clear please, thanks.

Anything that isn't gravel, grass, or permanent (read: walls) is OK by me. The First chicane, Mulsanne straight entrance, Mulsanne Corner, Virage Porsche, and the Final Chicane have concrete (even if it's red), there, you can use it. Just don't cut through the sand on the last chicane, otherwise have at it.

As for the time-discussion, it seems people are both for, and against, but are leaving the decision up to me. I've given my opinion, and after reading the opinions of others i've decided ...

***Attention Racers, Important Announcement***
After much discussion both for and against, GTMSA has concluded that for this particular race, and ONLY this race, Sector times for fast-lap in RACES may be discussed up through Indianapolis Sector time (T5). This is a compromise as it allows for discussion of most of the lap for comparison, but allows a mystery of total lap time due to the more technical sections of Virage Porsche and Virage Ford where anything can happen.
Also, Top speeds can be discussed as well. EX. "My speed entering the 2nd Mulsanne chicane was XXXmph. " Mainly because I'm curious, but this has NEVER been excluded, and should be taken advantage of.

Gearing, speeds, and Qualification Sector times (only) have always been allowed, and for Round 5, fast-lap sector times (through T5) are allowed to.
 
Anything that isn't gravel, grass, or permanent (read: walls) is OK by me. The First chicane, Mulsanne straight entrance, Mulsanne Corner, Virage Porsche, and the Final Chicane have concrete (even if it's red), there, you can use it. Just don't cut through the sand on the last chicane, otherwise have at it.

As for the time-discussion, it seems people are both for, and against, but are leaving the decision up to me. I've given my opinion, and after reading the opinions of others i've decided ...

***Attention Racers, Important Announcement***
After much discussion both for and against, GTMSA has concluded that for this particular race, and ONLY this race, Sector times for fast-lap in RACES may be discussed up through Indianapolis Sector time (T5). This is a compromise as it allows for discussion of most of the lap for comparison, but allows a mystery of total lap time due to the more technical sections of Virage Porsche and Virage Ford where anything can happen.
Also, Top speeds can be discussed as well. EX. "My speed entering the 2nd Mulsanne chicane was XXXmph. " Mainly because I'm curious, but this has NEVER been excluded, and should be taken advantage of.

Gearing, speeds, and Qualification Sector times (only) have always been allowed, and for Round 5, fast-lap sector times (through T5) are allowed to.

+o :D

Neil
 
you know what really scares me :nervous:
Neil is begging to make sense :D

Sorry mate....LOL

I'm with Andy on this one.... If I try to pay attention to my splits, I'm in the kitty litter :grumpy:

If I have to give splits to people, I'll have to watch the vid until I get to that lap :crazy: ... that's almost as interesting as watching myself f**@ :yuck:
 
Have the RX7 race in the books, now to run the BMW, started 5 times last night and couldn't get 3 clean laps. This is surely the best track for these cars, usually there hasn't been too much difference in the GT and GTS class, but this week will be different, I'm about 6 seconds a lap faster in the BMW as opposed to the RX7. Just hate having to use Bob the artard, he'll blow a lead faster then a cheap hooker.

Like J.R. said, in order to post sector times I'm gonna have to watch my replay.
 
Well, (takes a deep breath, and lights up a ciggie)

I have just finished a full race in the MacLaren, on medium fronts/hard rears. Talk about making a pussy-cat into a b;tch-kitty!

It has taken me most of the afternoon and most of the evening just to get that one, error/collision/fracking stupid AI hitting me in the rear, free race! And I have to say it was the most nerve wracking race I have EVER done!

5 lap stints, 5 laps for Bob! (had to keep adjusting his aggression levels throughout each lap, cos he would try to be a smart-ass in the chicanes and Porche curves, and nearly going off)

Will make adjustments to my strategy for tommorrow, he lost me 40 seconds in 5 laps!
Was 20 secs in the lead when he took over, ended up 20 seconds behind the Merc at hand-over. And I never recovered from it, but I did end up only 9 seconds down at the line.
So only 4 laps for him tomoz, fracking muppet!

@Gun!
Wish we could at least discuss fastest laps, Chris! This is an hour and a huge fraction race, so what would be the harm?

Neil
Ive had no such problems with the C5 .. THANKFULLY it runs on hard fronts/medium rears { as does the 350Z in GT2 } .. im not one for giving too many details , but the Corvette ran a 4 stop race with one short stint using softs front and rear { just so i could set 1 very good fast lap :) }.. had only a few minor problems with the A1's { keeping an eye on the rear vision mirror helps } my only concern was BOB ! { must have worked him too hard for the 1st 3 laps as he decided to run wide into the sand on the last lap :indiff: { if i get time ill re-run the C5 [for the 3rd time] }

Ive re-run both GT classes to accomodate Shotguns latest track ruling . { it takes a few laps to get used to the different lines [running over the red stuff] }

Both GT cars have had driving errors ; driving here at 10 tenths in the LM classes will be risky business , thankfully theres another 5 days to get the times in .

Happy thanksgiving everyone 👍
 
Tell you what Boys, try driving my M3 GTR for 20+ laps. That thing is like pushing a brick through the air. I ain't getting over 182 w/o drafting help, and there's NONE of that for me. Guess it's another week BMW finishes out of the points for GT2.

Now GT1 on the other hand, i'm pretty confident in. This Viper sticks like GLUE even on RH/RH tires, and BOB isn't costing me as much as i thought (either that's good for him or BAD for me).

Prototype racing and GT racing here are night and day (pun intended). the C60 Pescarolo in P2 is a dream, except w/ mismatched tires, i think i'll have to re-do that one again. P1 BMW has yet to come out of the stable though, but i think that thing is going to be a beast. Not looking forward to that one.

Side note, Does everyone think they are getting enough time to get this one in? i know it's a LONG race, probably the longest of the season (as it should be), but I'm curious, that's all. Let me know what you all think.

c
 
Tell you what Boys, try driving my M3 GTR for 20+ laps. That thing is like pushing a brick through the air. I ain't getting over 182 w/o drafting help, and there's NONE of that for me. Guess it's another week BMW finishes out of the points for GT2.

Now GT1 on the other hand, i'm pretty confident in. This Viper sticks like GLUE even on RH/RH tires, and BOB isn't costing me as much as i thought (either that's good for him or BAD for me).

Prototype racing and GT racing here are night and day (pun intended). the C60 Pescarolo in P2 is a dream, except w/ mismatched tires, i think i'll have to re-do that one again. P1 BMW has yet to come out of the stable though, but i think that thing is going to be a beast. Not looking forward to that one.

Side note, Does everyone think they are getting enough time to get this one in? i know it's a LONG race, probably the longest of the season (as it should be), but I'm curious, that's all. Let me know what you all think.

c

me too.
 
I'm happy if you want to extend the deadline for a few extra days ... Del needs to re-run both GT's { though its not essential }

And the Audi hasnt even hit the track for its tyre testing yet .
 
To be honest Chris.....


I wouldn't mind either! This is one HARD race to string together. And to be honest I do LOVE the track!
I really do!

I will never get bored with it!
Even to the point of changing track position at certain points on the straights to reduce the bumps that kill your speed!

I know, it's a little anal, but getting 189mph (without a draft) before the first Mulsane chicane in an RX, and 216 out of the Mac(with drafting on the first lap) is a lot of fun!
Hitting Indianapolis at 180+ with 5th gear sceaming off the rev-limiter in the RX is also a lot of fun too!

Extend to your heart's content, o glorious and magnaminous leader!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Neil
 
:) ;) :lol:

Hey guys!

I actually get to pick the little guy up in 2 days time!

My little puppy!

I am SO stoked!

Neil
 
KILL BOB!!! I just ran a near perfect 15 laps in the BMW then let Tard-Bob drive, on his fourth and final lap ,30 seconds from pit, he spins out then takes 25 seconds going from reverse to forward and back again. Stopped the race, I'm going back right now and rerun. This time Bob runs at 4 or 5.AAARRRGGGGG!!!!!


EDIT: OK you GTS drivers, I just completed a near perfect run in the BMW except for one off track for me and one for Bob each about 5 seconds. Shaved 18 seconds off my previous time. I 've put in many hours on this race, restarting at least 30 times, some after as many as 20 laps. My everlasting respect for anyone beating me this week, everthing went near perfect. Hope I'm not too confidant!!
 
Sorry Andy, that's half the fun (?) of the long races...BOB can either be a help or a hinderance. mostly a hinderance. I only run BOB for the last 4 laps, nothing in the middle of the race for that very reason. By then I've built up a good enough lead (mostly lapped the field) to not have to worry if i put BOB at level 3 for a couple places.

Did my "bank" race in the P1 BMW lastnight, and i knew that thing was going to be a beast. I actually took the HP down from 904 to 850 just to be able to handle that thing around the track. Probably won't win because of it, but at least i'll place this week.

Might have to re-visit GTS just to give you McLaren Boys something to look at (in your rearview!) But not tonight, Notre Dame vs USC is on, and booze is in hand.
 

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