Have the 24H events lost meaning?

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There have been really great options here, a X amount of saves, take a Bob or 2 with you who can't race more then x amount of time so you have to do at least as much as they do.

And Yes it is a game the day's that some drivers almost did race the entire race is well history. Yes Google it! There is a story that a driver race for a straight of 14/17 hours then change with his son just to use the bathroom and eat some, then takes over again in the car.
 
Kwicko
Did the 24h races *have* meaning to start with?
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LOL, of course they have no meaning. Just like any other race on the game has no meaning. Now that doesn't mean that some don't have their stig replica helmets strapped on too tight, and therefore have cut off the circulation of blood to their brains, and think that these video game enduros are the pinnacle of motorsport. Notice I didn't even say sim motorsport, because in the minds of some of these elitists I read around here, I'm convinced that they are convinced they are somehow real race car drivers.
 
Kwicko
No kidding. At least with b-spec enduros, you can have more than one bob on the job!
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Just as in A-spec you can have more than one driver on the job.

In B-spec you need more than one Bob to switch drivers. In A-spec you need atleast one friend to switch drivers.

It's not PD's fault that some people find creating a Bob easier than making a friend ;)
 
Piotrov
well my whole thing is that if I wanted to be a race driver then I would go out and be one.. The point is im not and most are not.. We cant devote as much time into games because we do have other jobs.
No one said you must use the save feature if its implemented.

If you feel then go for the 24hour stretch. but for the rest of us, give us something to brake it up..
Also I was speaking out of my oppinion thus your intitled to yours. :)

This game is supposed to cater to most but in this aspect it seems to cater only to the hardcore.
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You were just one of many that chose to ignore my post, 2 posts later saying "" I can't wait to grind out the 24 Nurburgring one day when i have time, i think it will be a special feeling after as i will never get the chance in real life and with weather/time change i think it will be quite an experience.
For me there is no rush to do the 24hr endurance races and will just complete when i have time, but I agree with you that others should have the chance to save after 1-3 hour stints. Nice idea. ""


The 24 hour Nurb is a real life event,it would be gruelling - physically and mentally it's at level 40, your not forced to do it. It should in my view hold some prestige.
I love how people say i'm not gonna sit and do it by myself because that's not how it's done in real life - Yes you should be able to have a B-Spec driver drive.

But how many of you have heard of friends ?
 
sk0pe
You were just one of many that chose to ignore my post, 2 posts later saying "" I can't wait to grind out the 24 Nurburgring one day when i have time, i think it will be a special feeling after as i will never get the chance in real life and with weather/time change i think it will be quite an experience.
For me there is no rush to do the 24hr endurance races and will just complete when i have time, but I agree with you that others should have the chance to save after 1-3 hour stints. Nice idea. ""


The 24 hour Nurb is a real life event,it would be gruelling - physically and mentally it's at level 40, your not forced to do it. It should in my view hold some prestige.
I love how people say i'm not gonna sit and do it by myself because that's not how it's done in real life - Yes you should be able to have a B-Spec driver drive.

But how many of you have heard of friends ?
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I did read your post actually.. But my appologies! I probably focused on your negative statement from your previous post.

My bad and no disrespect to you! I dont want to insult or upset anyone... I, like everyone may over react and for that I am sorry.

But like you, I do agree that having Bob or some of the other alternatives mentioned above is a great idea!
 
I'm not gonna play the 24 hours race unless I invited 3-4 friends/relative to join. Even in real world 24 hours races, they have more than 1 driver.
 
I'm 1 1/4 hours from finishing the 'Ring 24 and with it A-spec. Hope for no power cuts!!

Yes I am using the X2010 - in GT4 I split the race with the Bobs but not possible here...SO...

I drive for 17 hours (with a sleep break)
Doing the same number of laps I would do in 24 hours in an R8 or 908
Park for 7 hours :)

So I've driven the same distance as a real world 24, and for a much longer time than any one driver would do.

This felt like the best way as we can't combine A & B Spec...

The X2010 is way too fast for my brain - 5:05 (or thereabouts) 'round the Ring 24 hour circuit for 170 laps did my head in... :scared:
 
tifoso_nz
I'm 1 1/4 hours from finishing the 'Ring 24 and with it A-spec. Hope for no power cuts!!

Yes I am using the X2010 - in GT4 I split the race with the Bobs but not possible here...SO...

I drive for 17 hours (with a sleep break)
Doing the same number of laps I would do in 24 hours in an R8 or 908
Park for 7 hours :)

So I've driven the same distance as a real world 24, and for a much longer time than any one driver would do.

This felt like the best way as we can't combine A & B Spec...

The X2010 is way too fast for my brain - 5:05 (or thereabouts) 'round the Ring 24 hour circuit for 170 laps did my head in... :scared:
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Congratulations on the mammoth accomplishment. How many times did you do le mans (Le Sarthe) 24hr to get you to lvl 40 ready for Nurburg 24hr?
 
One of the most exciting elements in 24hr races is the uncertainty -- cars developing problems, engineers MacGuyvering fixes in the pit. Something Kaz has experienced first hand: http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/gallery/d5289.html

If he can't find a way to capture it in the game, he should rethink about the meaning of 24h races to the game.
 
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Just race the long endurances if you have at least two friends willing to spend two days at your house (saturday to sunday?).

It is a event for those who have no family! Send girfriends to the hell, buy beer & food and play with friends.

It really is not something that appeals most of players. And there is no need to complete, i think... Why complete 100%?

But it is a fun option. Even if a minority gets the advantage it.

Thanks.
 
lllSeanTlll
Congratulations on the mammoth accomplishment. How many times did you do le mans (Le Sarthe) 24hr to get you to lvl 40 ready for Nurburg 24hr?
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Thank you!

Only one Le Mans 24 hr - and it rained the WHOLE 24 hours - 350 km/h plus at night with the headlights reflecting off the wall of spray from other cars was mindblowing/scary. And I think I lapped all 40 Vipers 600 times!!

And when I start the 'Ring 24 - It's raining!! I'm thinking 'here we go again' Only lasted 1 3/4 hours though. And it started to get light at what I think was 4.30 in the morning (if the race starts at 3 pm?)

I ground Indy 500 and Nurburgring 4 hour (fun in a tweaked 430 Scuderia) heaps to get to 40...
 
starbug
I did Grand Valley and Indy 500.

I'd love to do the 24hr ones, but I can't leave the ps3 on gt5 for days at a time. I don't want the old electrical system in my house to catch fire in the middle of the night and kill me in my sleep just so I can do a 24hr endurance.

Saving would be ideal, I know for realism sake a 24hr race is an endurance race, but everything else is fake! We don't put real fuel in the videogame car, we don't have to buy the in game cars with real money (fortunately!). It's only a game!

Respect to those who can complete the 24hr endurance over a period of days. The rest of us with working lives and families will have to hope for a save feature.

This is one case where realism is not welcome.
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As they say, your mileage may very, but my PlayStation 3 has been on solid for a month. Turned it off 3 days ago after completing the final B-Spec race. I did exit the game every race to backup my game save but other than that it was on 24/7.

Will I do the A-Spec endurance races? Most likely not. If I do, it will be with the X2010 and I'll only do the minimum number of laps required, then park it.
 
sk0pe
Dude seriously having a "save" feature during an endurance race holds no meaning, why have an endurance race if you can save it 1/4 way through and then play it every 4 days for 1 hour, nothing endurance about that.

Tbh your whole original statement contradicts itself so much i can't keep up. 👍
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Famine
There's nothing you can do in GT4's 24 hr races that you can't in GT5. Need a break? Pause it and go do something else - GT4's 24hr races took me a week each.
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Save or pause... ultimately not so different...
 
I'll be doing these races but can't seem to find the right day to start them. I'm at the point where there are only SIX things in this game that I don't have the gold trophy in...

Vettel @ Nurby (Silver)
Vettel @ Monza (Silver)
Vettel @ Suzuka (Bronze)
A-spec 24hr @ Le Sarthe
A-spec 24hr @ Nurby
B-spec 24hr @ Nurby

Since I only have 6 events to go I'll definitely be doing them, just not sure when. I suppose I'm going to finish the Vettel's 1st as they're just a thorn in my side. It take sheer perfection for 2+ minutes. Something this 45yr old body/mind/reflexes just seem to have an issue with. :-)
 
Devedander
Save or pause... ultimately not so different...
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When they need to let their 200W Playstation run for several days and nights, people care. When the number of defective PS3 units spikes due to GT5, people care. There is a difference between saving and pausing.
 
Especially considering a YLOD PS3 is a lot more painful to replace than a borked PS2...
 
Piotrov
I did read your post actually.. But my appologies! I probably focused on your negative statement from your previous post.

My bad and no disrespect to you! I dont want to insult or upset anyone... I, like everyone may over react and for that I am sorry.

But like you, I do agree that having Bob or some of the other alternatives mentioned above is a great idea!
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Yeah no harm done mate - you were the unlucky one i quoted, i could of picked from a few posts so sorry i singled ya out :) i just wanted to make it clear that i am reasonable and can see that other people would appreciate a save feature.

I feel it takes away some of the 'aura' around the 24 Nurburgring though - considering it's at level 40 and your not forced to do it to progress through the game.

2-4 mates,decent wheel, some beers , pizza delivered i think you could make a reasonable night of it, the pressure to not crash at the late stages ( especially if done in a comparable car to A.I ) would be intense.
 
Still don't get why a 'simulator' doesn't simulate the race it is supposed to be simulating!. Nowadays, tops is about four hours before you are REQUIRED to pause for at least an hour in most endurance races.

And, jeez! Entering an X1 in a 24 hr. race isn't racing... It is like putting Carl Lewis in a Special Olympics race!
 
sk0pe
Yeah no harm done mate - you were the unlucky one i quoted, i could of picked from a few posts so sorry i singled ya out :) i just wanted to make it clear that i am reasonable and can see that other people would appreciate a save feature.

I feel it takes away some of the 'aura' around the 24 Nurburgring though - considering it's at level 40 and your not forced to do it to progress through the game.

2-4 mates,decent wheel, some beers , pizza delivered i think you could make a reasonable night of it, the pressure to not crash at the late stages ( especially if done in a comparable car to A.I ) would be intense.
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Here's the rub - I *don't* have any local friends who play GT5. I have friends I used to race with in real life who've moved away, and we stay in touch and trade cars and talk GT5 via messages and e-mail, but we all work wildly divergent hours, and so far haven't even gotten a chance to race with/against each other online. So getting together with friends to run these events isn't really going to happen for me. Besides, try explaining to your average 50-year-old that you want them to come spend the night so you can stay up doing shifts on a video game...

But the idea of running the event with friends DOES raise an interesting idea. What about having TEAMS of friends, where you sign up a team of 3 or 4 of you to run the event, and it doesn't matter where you physically are? I could do my stint from Austin, my mates could do theirs from San Fran and Raleigh. This is something that shouldn't be that hard to implement or allow, since the game and PD's servers already allow multiple online players at once in their lobbies. This would be the same kind of deal, only done in A-Spec endurance races. Lay out some basic rules - limit the team size, for instance; put a strict time limit on the event - 24 hours for LeMans or Nürburgring, of course - and let people figure out the logistics. If I want to run the midnight-to-6am shift, great, and one of the others can take the 6-to-noon shift, etc. That way, it puts the onus on the TEAM to make it work and to show up for their shifts, while still keeping things "realistic" and competitive.
 
Lvl 35 in a-spec at the moment and I enjoyed enduros so far but I will not be doing any of them that are 9 hours and longer unless I have a save feature. Waste of energy and too much brick potential in my opinion. Petty really as I really like these races.
 
The Endurance Races are a time consuming and not really flexible issue.
I really like them, but i dont have the time to "make a race per day". Not even on the Weekend.
In addition to that, my girlfriend uses the PS3 for recording with play tv. It can run in the background but only if everything is scheduled. Thus limiting my availabe time even more.

Now before GT5 came out a couple of friends and i agreed on doing the 24H Nürburgring (with a "competitive" car) during the Weekend.

This plan is still there, but im really questioning when my (or any of theirs) A spec level will allow me to drive 24h Nürburgring. (and im def. not going to do "a couple" of 24H LeMans). This is from my point of view the very worst leveling system.

Im "ok" (read annoyed) with needing to level up very slowly, but im not ok with repeating a 24h race a couple of times just to be able to participate!

Right now im looking for some APIs for the PS3 controller or a steerwing wheel to write some baseline racing course instructions for auto piloting endurance races just to level up for 24H Ring (just record a manual lap with a fast car and have it repeat for 20 rounds - havent thought of pitting so far).
Maybe someone has already started doing so? If so, please notify me. I would like to contribute!
 
If enough people are calling for a save feature or allowing B-Spec drivers to assist with the 24hr task, I think it's reasonable for PD to include them. People should be allowed to enjoy the game without the unreasonable time commitment to finish these races.

The great thing about GT5 (compared to GT4) is that there are no exclusive prize cars - you can buy every car you win in the game. For me this finally means I don't have to pick an over-powered car to make sure I win the endurance races. Now I can do them in a more realistic car that emulates the real event and not have to worry (or care even) if I finish in 1st or 8th place.

For me the joy in the 24hr events is going to be simulating the real races as closely as possible (aside from not being able to use b-spec assistance). No pause, park the car if you need to eat or use the restroom. See how many laps you can get in the time period. See how your body reacts to 24hours without sleep. I can hardly wait to get to LVL35.
 
Thaddeus, look for the "fully automated a-spec grinding" thread. Somebody's got a way to do a-spec grinding "robotically", I believe.
 
benda18
If enough people are calling for a save feature or allowing B-Spec drivers to assist with the 24hr task, I think it's reasonable for PD to include them. People should be allowed to enjoy the game without the unreasonable time commitment to finish these races.

The great thing about GT5 (compared to GT4) is that there are no exclusive prize cars - you can buy every car you win in the game. For me this finally means I don't have to pick an over-powered car to make sure I win the endurance races. Now I can do them in a more realistic car that emulates the real event and not have to worry (or care even) if I finish in 1st or 8th place.

For me the joy in the 24hr events is going to be simulating the real races as closely as possible (aside from not being able to use b-spec assistance). No pause, park the car if you need to eat or use the restroom. See how many laps you can get in the time period. See how your body reacts to 24hours without sleep. I can hardly wait to get to LVL35.
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See, but that ISN'T realistic. None of the 24 hour races in real life require a single driver to drive the entire 24 hours. Hell, none of them even ALLOW such a thing, because that driver would be a menace and a danger to every other driver out there!
 
Spoken to my friends about this but as we all lead rather hectic lives until there is a save feature won't have the opportunity to do these races and get a platinum trophy.
 
Kwicko
See, but that ISN'T realistic. None of the 24 hour races in real life require a single driver to drive the entire 24 hours. Hell, none of them even ALLOW such a thing, because that driver would be a menace and a danger to every other driver out there!
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i know. but drivers have done it in the past before the current regulations were in place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_Le_Mans#Drivers

I wasn't trying to claim that PD has set these events up in a 100% realistic manner (although when I re-read my post it does kinda sound that way). I'm just saying that I'm totally looking forward to a straight-out 24hour race in an unmodified LMP, no pausing. And I fully support the idea of including mid-race saves or B-Spec assistance because I think everyone should be able to enjoy the game one way or another.
 
Famine
I don't know what your point is. There's nothing you can do in GT5's 24hr races that you couldn't in GT4's. There's nothing you can do in GT4's 24 hr races that you can't in GT5. Need a break? Pause it and go do something else - GT4's 24hr races took me a week each.
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From what I can remember I could put bob on the wheel and we could finish the race together - I did it with 2 hours stints each
 

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