Help me hookup my car please

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sicbeing
JParker that would be a good idea. Keep in mind people that I aint gonna spend a bit of every payday on this, this prolly is going to be a -save my money for a long time then decide to do it- thing. I was gonna save up 5-15 grand over agreat amount of time and then do something with it, i couldnt see doing it all peice by peice, i just wanted to keep my car and do it if at all possible, but from the sounds of it by the time i have the money i wont want to do it.

If I save up 10 grand putting a down payment on a new car isnt something id do too easily, i dont like 6-7yrs of monthly payments when I can buy used instead and build on it myself instead of paying monthly, but it is a possibility.

I was also thinking of keeping the civic i have as a run around car and then buying something else better to mod (since everyone seems its a better idea to start on something better).
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You like civics right? Then buy a used Type-R.Spend some money on just doing basic upgrades and you can easily get double the power your old one had.Oh and they're fun to drive too.
 
Yea ive never seen any type R for sale, ive looked for some odd reason, guess the closest i can get is an integra or a si.
 
What a shame then,since they're quite good
 
How much would he get out of the car if he sells it anyways? I have a 96 Accord and it was $5400 two years ago (came with a custom 6 CD changer... that I broke... :grumpy: )... I doubt that a Civic that is two years older is going to get much money out of it... (However probably easier to buy a manual since they would be cheaper than auto...)
Best I would do with my car is to clean the dents and get a paint job and maybe rims... 130 hp isn't much to play with and isn't worth the money to do anything anyways...
A down payment for a newer (used) car would be a nice option in my opinion... (For the money to be used to do engine swaps and what not...) Well thats my future plan anyways...
BTW what minor changes can the guy make to gain some power?
(Mufflers? Do they really do much? How much is a installment gonna be anyways?)
 
mufflers can add some hp, minor though. Getting more hot air out helps, same with intake , get the cold air in.

You can do some aerodynamic stuff i believe such as different fenders with more airflow (?).

Ive heard of ECU chips or racing chips but dunno what they do or how to get one or how to put it on. etc.

I might just get a better used car, maybe i can find a used rx7? if not ill try for an integra, or a used impreza, something like that.
 
sicbeing
I might just get a better used car, maybe i can find a used rx7? if not ill try for an integra, or a used impreza, something like that.
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I think a the car you have should be good enough, just get the better aerodynamic body parts and an intake and be just as fast.

Edit: I must note I used sarcasm to keep sicbeing from molesting a nicer car.
 
Bahbo
I think a the car you have should be good enough, just get the better aerodynamic body parts and an intake and be just as fast.
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Aero parts for a car with only 1xx hp? Those parts are for stability in acceleration and for downforce are they not? It would just become extra weight on the poor car... And that sorta defines Ricer in my opinion...
 
Bahbo
I think a the car you have should be good enough, just get the better aerodynamic body parts and an intake and be just as fast.
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I don't know if I'll be just as fast, I'll definatly be faster than another 94 V-Line 4 Civic though, if they're stock...

I was really hopeing that a motor swap wasn't as complicated as most make it seem like, but I'm starting to think it is. I was hopeing to save up maybe 8-10 grand and then having a 450 HP Engine, from what I've heard. Which would be awsome.


But anyway, I'll keep an eye out for other cars, I'd like to keep the civic if not just for good miles per gallon, or at least a V-Line 4 or V4. Like an OZ Rally Lancer or something along those lines. I'd kill to find an affordable RX7 3rd Gen though.
 
animateria
Aero parts for a car with only 1xx hp? Those parts are for stability in acceleration and for downforce are they not? It would just become extra weight on the poor car... And that sorta defines Ricer in my opinion...
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I define ricer as any civic / accord that has only the following:

Dropped, Muffler (or even just a fancy wal-mart tip), 1000 Grand worth of sound system that isn't weighed down so we don't hear bass but just the rattleing, possible body kit with no paint job so the body kit doesn't match colors, fake roof scoop, spraypainted hood, the elmbems and nameplates taken off the decklid/rear bumper area, etc.

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Added some things:

Fake door mufflers (ive seen it), sawed off mufflers, stupid tire tip neon flashing lights (same goes for hood spray nozzle tip lights)
 
[yelling]how many people telling you not to do it does it take for you to get the idea![/yelling]

dont do an engine swap. dont do the turbo. just buy a better car from teh get go and work with that. the expense and headache of modding a car is far beyond what you think. you have already stated that you dont know too much. well, take it from people who do (and those who front well) dont do it.

jsut get a better car to begin with. an SI coupe with intake headers and cams is gonna get you real close to that 200hp.
 
some of us define ricer as anycar that has supposed performace parts (wings, body kit, painted or not, exhaust, big wheels) etc, but no engine work.

so by our definitino, you are trying to build a ricer.

theres some ghettho looking cars out there whose performance will astound you. theyre called Qcars, sleepers and various other names. just coz a car looks ratty doesnt mean its a piece of ****.
 
neanderthal
an SI coupe with intake headers and cams is gonna get you real close to that 200hp.
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Are you talking about the same gen. civic Si? It came with the sohc vtec (D16Z6) rated at 125 crank HP. You would need a lot more then an intake, header (there is only 1 header on an inline 4) and a cam.

neanderthal
dont do an engine swap. dont do the turbo. just buy a better car from teh get go and work with that.
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Why can't we just let him molest the EX civic he owns and not let him get his hands on a nicer car? :p
 
With your mechanical knowledge, an RX-7 is not a good idea. As others have suggested, try to find a used WRX or something. I don't really know what else to say.
 
neanderthal
so by our definitino, you are trying to build a ricer.

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If you've read what I've posted in the past replies you'd know I'm not trying to build a ricer. I am trying to do engine work... motor swaps kits etc.

When I mentioned body kits, i also mention nicer paint job. Not a little ratty kit job with chipped paint.

I know what sleepers are, I used to want to just be one of those, but I'd rather not have a ratty looking car. Driving up next to someone and blowing them away without them expecting anything is fun, but you don't need a sleeper for that, a lot of people on the street will you suck if you have a ratty car, nicer looking car, or etc (if you're driving a civic or around something like that). In other words if I just did the paint job, body kit, tinted windows, etc, no one is going to think I have a fast car, so being ratty doesn't help. You'll blow them away whether your car looks nice or not (if you have done under-the-hood-work)
 
A Civic would be a good car, it's just that if you want a manual Civic with a bit more power you should get an EX Coupe or an Si or something... no sense building something yourself that Honda has already built.

I woudn't give up on the idea of modifying a car either, it's just that you have to build up to that. Start out changing your own oil, brake pads, little body work stuff, small upgrades. Right now it seems to me that you don't understand the difference between a V and Inline engine, so it might not be a good time to be thinking about engine swaps :)



You also need to realize that those 'ricers' are exactly the same as you. Do you think they like having unpainted bodywork? They all want show quality cars. They just don't have the money or skill to put one together.
 
lol, that reminds me I need to change my Oil. I had to learn what a Line 4 cylinder car was when I bought mine i kept saying it was v4, and i kept getting corrected. All i know is one has 2 on each side and one is all 4 ina line which mine is, i dunno what the difference is though.
 
retsmah
You also need to realize that those 'ricers' are exactly the same as you. Do you think they like having unpainted bodywork? They all want show quality cars. They just don't have the money or skill to put one together.
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Id seperate myself from them becuase im not doing slow upgrades like stupid crap everyone does at first, and chances are they'll never get to the point of having a quality looking car, but I might, but if i cant i wont even start to do anything on it, its all stock and with either be all stock or quality.
 
Most modified cars are long processes anyway. It's not like you will be building the car overnight.
If you do not wan't to be laughed upon and called a ricer I would suggest an engine swap would be the best route to go.
 
Bahbo
Most modified cars are long processes anyway. It's not like you will be building the car overnight.
If you do not wan't to be laughed upon and called a ricer I would suggest an engine swap would be the best route to go.
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Yea, that's one of the first things I mentioned, yet I'm still being called a ricer, why? Just because I want a nice civic? If it was all about some v8 muscle car, no one would be calling me a ricer for wanting to make it look the best it can, let alone make me feel like I am being looked down upon by everyone else on the street. And if I did do this, it would be an overnight thing, or at least all done at once, once I get the money and parts.
 
sicbeing
If it was all about some v8 muscle car, no one would be calling me a ricer for wanting to make it look the best it can
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Correct. That is of course if the car is fast, and built correctly. If it had a stock 289 c.i engine and a tubbed rear end, a wheelie bar and decals, things would be different.
 
like i said, for some of us, no performace= ricer. no one is saying by your definition its not a ricer, were saying to us you might be building a ricer.

rice means many different things to many different people.

a body kit on a car that has no performance is the essence of rice. you dont see people building old mucslecars and pony cars and putting body kits on them. its a world of difference.

but thats my opinion, and i drive a ratty 30 old car with faded paint and primer on one door and fender.

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sicbeing
Yea, that's one of the first things I mentioned, yet I'm still being called a ricer, why? Just because I want a nice civic? If it was all about some v8 muscle car, no one would be calling me a ricer for wanting to make it look the best it can, let alone make me feel like I am being looked down upon by everyone else on the street. And if I did do this, it would be an overnight thing, or at least all done at once, once I get the money and parts.
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Sorry if it went the wrong way but I did not call you a ricer... I meant a car with no use for a bodykit (i.e. a under powered car) that has one is what I define as a Ricer... I understand you are going to work on your car and if it helps the performance I have no problem with a bodykit...
But seriously, a underpowered car has not much need for a bodykit since it probaby won't benefit from it. Its just extra weight... Sacrificing performance for looks = Rice (Or Luxury I guess)
 
animateria
Sorry if it went the wrong way but I did not call you a ricer... I meant a car with no use for a bodykit (i.e. a under powered car) that has one is what I define as a Ricer... I understand you are going to work on your car and if it helps the performance I have no problem with a bodykit...
But seriously, a underpowered car has not much need for a bodykit since it probaby won't benefit from it. Its just extra weight... Sacrificing performance for looks = Rice (Or Luxury I guess)
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Well yea, it would add weight, but it'll look kool 💡 , if i wanted to remove weight id get carbon fiber hood or oher things, like remove my backsteat :sly:
 
sicbeing
Well yea, it would add weight, but it'll look kool 💡 , if i wanted to remove weight id get carbon fiber hood or oher things, like remove my backsteat :sly:
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You are certainly going down the same path others are trying to ward you off of.

Just know that the "cool" guys with their Bomex kits, sponsor stickers for parts they'll bever have, 4in muffler with 1 3/4in piping, LEDs, etc get LAUGHED AT by folks with dented up cars that actually have ball$ under the hood. If you want to go that way and remove seats for a *gasp* kit, fine, just don't get mad when folks pull up next to you and snicker.

For what its worth, I'd rather have my 300AWHP with a 15year old paint job, battle scars, and a grey front fender on an otherwise red car (well, the black CF hood makes another color) than the blingingest slow car ever made.
 
LandoAWD
You are certainly going down the same path others are trying to ward you off of.

Just know that the "cool" guys with their Bomex kits, sponsor stickers for parts they'll bever have, 4in muffler with 1 3/4in piping, LEDs, etc get LAUGHED AT by folks with dented up cars that actually have ball$ under the hood. If you want to go that way and remove seats for a *gasp* kit, fine, just don't get mad when folks pull up next to you and snicker.

For what its worth, I'd rather have my 300AWHP with a 15year old paint job, battle scars, and a grey front fender on an otherwise red car (well, the black CF hood makes another color) than the blingingest slow car ever made.
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I guess i was misunderstood, it was sarcasm.
 
Hi sicbeing, i'm sorry to say that around these parts, you're not going to find much support or useful advice other than the obvious

- buy something better with your seemingly bottomless pit of money and don't waste it on some old Civic - you might as well burn your money cause you'll never get any of it back if you try to sell it somewhere down the line.
- No one is impressed buy Civics
- You are going to have to spend a stack of cash on it to make it quick
- A body-kitted Civic is more likely to make a majority of people laugh at you
- There is nothing even remotely 'different' about a modded Civic


Give these links a try, the first two will be the most useful :)
http://home.fuse.net/lin/ride.html
http://www.importmodifications.com/sitemap.html
http://www.unclebens.com/
http://www.boyracerguide.co.uk/guide.php#car
http://www.stupidnorthernmonkey.co.uk/
http://www.goingfaster.com/spo/you_might_be_a_ricer_if.html
http://www.mtv.com/onair/dyn/pimp_my_ride/series.jhtml
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ricer&r=d
 
TheCracker
Hi sicbeing, i'm sorry to say that around these parts, you're not going to find much support or useful advice other than the obvious

- buy something better with your seemingly bottomless pit of money and don't waste it on some old Civic - you might as well burn your money cause you'll never get any of it back if you try to sell it somewhere down the line.
- No one is impressed buy Civics
- You are going to have to spend a stack of cash on it to make it quick
- A body-kitted Civic is more likely to make a majority of people laugh at you
- There is nothing even remotely 'different' about a modded Civic
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Sorry for my earlier post sic. But I would have to agree with Cracker. If you really want to invest your "hard-earned" cash in a customized car, get something unique, that has the basics you want, ie stick shift, decent starter engine.
I have a hot rodding back ground, and will honestly tell you; an engine or transmission swap is a major deal. I would personally give my left one for a late '90's Supra.
Once you have a car, what do you want first? I would say mechanical first with my past experiences. Say you slap on some cool ground effects, go to the body shop and get a nice paint job. Now you go to the mechanic shop and they are leaning over your fresh paint working on the mechanical end of things. Not a good idea.

Itemize what you want to do into catagories. Suspension, engine, transmission, body, and don't forget interior. Why spend a load of cash and not pick up some nice Recaro's.

As far as purchasing parts. I would go to your local major chain and get one of the guys to sit down with you. Go over what you want to do by catagory and ask him to suggest the best course of action. If he's a real car guy he will spend the time and steer you in the right direction. Your not going to get that online. Personally for me: engine, transmission, suspension, body, interior. Which translates to: performance, getting performance to pavement, handling the performance, looks to match performance, comfort while driving your masterpiece.

I'm here all day, feel free to ask questions. :) :)

JParker
 

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