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I've just started plying GT2 and I've done quite a lot races bult there are some which I don't know which car to use.
Help please
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some races...such as..............
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more info... I've done the first and last page of the special events but what i'm stuck on is the less powerfull races like the 'light weight', 'compact', 'historic car', '80's car' and a;so the ralley races.
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The beautiful thing about your situation, Black Supra, is that you have so much to explore. I'm assuming you've got some mad cash? I would just experiment if I were you. There's tons of cars that can be used. I'm actually a tad jealous of you because my GT2 exploration days were some of my favorite videogame experiences of all time. 
If you want GTP cred, try and stick with what should enter each race, tho. Like enter a car from the 80s when you do the 80's cup. Don't enter a Skyline in the Compact car races, etc.
One final piece of advice, ....the 2nd and 3rd Historic races can be tough, because the Ford GT40 shows up occasionally. You can reset the race till it doesn't show, but if you WANT to race against it, try buying a lightweight like the Datsun 240Z, put a race kit on it and power up as far as the limit allows. The reason is, that GT40 can be very hard to keep ahead of.
If you want GTP cred, try and stick with what should enter each race, tho. Like enter a car from the 80s when you do the 80's cup. Don't enter a Skyline in the Compact car races, etc.
One final piece of advice, ....the 2nd and 3rd Historic races can be tough, because the Ford GT40 shows up occasionally. You can reset the race till it doesn't show, but if you WANT to race against it, try buying a lightweight like the Datsun 240Z, put a race kit on it and power up as far as the limit allows. The reason is, that GT40 can be very hard to keep ahead of.
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cheers Parnelli Bone, and about experimenting, I could just use the money I win and sell the speed 12 I get from the GT all stars.
... and by the way, I thought 'Datsun' is called 'Nissan' nowadays.
... and by the way, I thought 'Datsun' is called 'Nissan' nowadays.
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Datsun. Nissan. Sorry I get them confused till this day. I'm 42 years old, and I still think of 240Zs as Datsuns. We didn't get "Nissans" till the early 80s in the states.
Anyways, it goes like this. If you wanna just rush thru the game, it's easy. Just buy any car that'll fit, customize its power till it's just under the hp limit, and there you go. But if you're car-crazy like we are, it's best to explore, because (like I said) there's lots of choices to make. Sorry, I know that's a lame answer, but I thought about it, and I can't think of any simple choices.
Now in GT3...that's another story!
Less cars in that game, way too many laps for some races, and after awhile I started getting bored with the limited selection of cars...I had no desire to explore as much...I just wanted to get thru the game, to be honest, to see what GT4 held in store. And in GT4, I'm exploring once again. 
In all GT2 races, it's possible to downplay your power 100, 150, sometimes even 200 hp or more below the limit. All except those last 2 Historic ones (Rome and Grindy)...in those, you'll need a racing-kit car + all the power you can buy.
Anyways, it goes like this. If you wanna just rush thru the game, it's easy. Just buy any car that'll fit, customize its power till it's just under the hp limit, and there you go. But if you're car-crazy like we are, it's best to explore, because (like I said) there's lots of choices to make. Sorry, I know that's a lame answer, but I thought about it, and I can't think of any simple choices.
Now in GT3...that's another story!
Less cars in that game, way too many laps for some races, and after awhile I started getting bored with the limited selection of cars...I had no desire to explore as much...I just wanted to get thru the game, to be honest, to see what GT4 held in store. And in GT4, I'm exploring once again. In all GT2 races, it's possible to downplay your power 100, 150, sometimes even 200 hp or more below the limit. All except those last 2 Historic ones (Rome and Grindy)...in those, you'll need a racing-kit car + all the power you can buy.
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Ok, I find the road races quite easy but now it is the rallies where I am having all the trouble. I think I'm going to use the nismo 400R with dirt tires but is there anything else you can tell me about rally driving styles and rally tuning (especially with the gear ratios and suspension set-up).
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I agree with Famine. Rally cars (or at least a "regular" car with a race-mod body) are best because you need downforce to keep your car glued to the track to keep up with the Ai in rally races. Even when going over jumps and flying thru the air, cars that have added aerodynamic downforce will be able to land back on track faster, with less accidents, than cars without added downforce.
It is possible to use just a regular car (no modifiable downforce) however it ain't easy in the long run.
So far as transmission tuning goes, you want close gears for many tracks, to keep you in the proper power-band...for some cars, you can simply use a sports or semi-racing tranny, matter of fact. But for some cars, you'll want to customize your gears. Since the 400R has tall gears (I think) you'll want to get them shorter. Many dirt tracks feature a need for acceleration runs starting from a low speed, rather than grandiose straight sections where top-end is more important. 💡 So like I said..cars with short gears can exploit this.
So far as suspension tuning goes, it really depends on the car. In theory you want a high suspension (lots of ground clearance) and it's best to just go with full racing parts. When I was doing GT2 rallies, I would sometimes experiment with huge gaps of camber and/or toe to get a car to slide and drift like I wanted. It's hard to just say "here's some one-size-fits-all magical settings" because I've never driven any later-model Skylines off-road. You'll have to experiment or wait till someone shows up here who knows a better answer than me.
It is possible to use just a regular car (no modifiable downforce) however it ain't easy in the long run.
So far as transmission tuning goes, you want close gears for many tracks, to keep you in the proper power-band...for some cars, you can simply use a sports or semi-racing tranny, matter of fact. But for some cars, you'll want to customize your gears. Since the 400R has tall gears (I think) you'll want to get them shorter. Many dirt tracks feature a need for acceleration runs starting from a low speed, rather than grandiose straight sections where top-end is more important. 💡 So like I said..cars with short gears can exploit this.
So far as suspension tuning goes, it really depends on the car. In theory you want a high suspension (lots of ground clearance) and it's best to just go with full racing parts. When I was doing GT2 rallies, I would sometimes experiment with huge gaps of camber and/or toe to get a car to slide and drift like I wanted. It's hard to just say "here's some one-size-fits-all magical settings" because I've never driven any later-model Skylines off-road. You'll have to experiment or wait till someone shows up here who knows a better answer than me.
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For a start, how much HP do you have in your 400R? Max HP is probably not the best idea with road based rally cars, as you'll end up understeering/oversteering out of control every time. So I suggest you keep it under 500 HP.
For settings, go for 'soft' suspension set-up. Springs should be around 5-7. Ride height no lower than 100. I usually set it around 105 to keep the car from bottoming out. Stabilizers should be set low, 2 or 3 is good. I'm not too good with damper/camber/toe settings so usually I'll leave them stock.
Gears, like Parnelli said, should be close ratios. Acceleration on dirt is slower than on asphalt, so speeds that are attainable on road courses may be impossible to reach on rally courses. Depending on your car's power and the track, I usually set the auto between 7 and 10.
Downforce should be max front and rear. If you get an LSD it would be good too. Since the 400R is 4WD, it'll tend to understeer. So I suggest front LSD values set higher than rear values.
For driving techniques, there's only one important thing to keep in your mind: do everything early. Brake earlier, turn in earlier, accelerate earlier. The car's reactions on rally tracks are slower than usual, so leaving everything as late as possible is not a good idea. Also, using the usual racing lines (out-in-out) will not help you. Stay inside as much as possible (except maybe at the exit, so it'll be in-in-out), you'll be surprised at how the front will always want to wash out, especially since you're using a heavy, 4WD car.
In the end, it's all about getting used to. There aren't much rally races or license tests in GT2, so you don't get lots of practice. But if you can get the hang of rally driving, road races will feel really easy afterwards. Also, like Famine & Parnelli said, it'd be good to use proper rally cars first. But ultimately, modified road cars are more fun and rewarding if you get it right.
Hope this helps 👍.
For settings, go for 'soft' suspension set-up. Springs should be around 5-7. Ride height no lower than 100. I usually set it around 105 to keep the car from bottoming out. Stabilizers should be set low, 2 or 3 is good. I'm not too good with damper/camber/toe settings so usually I'll leave them stock.
Gears, like Parnelli said, should be close ratios. Acceleration on dirt is slower than on asphalt, so speeds that are attainable on road courses may be impossible to reach on rally courses. Depending on your car's power and the track, I usually set the auto between 7 and 10.
Downforce should be max front and rear. If you get an LSD it would be good too. Since the 400R is 4WD, it'll tend to understeer. So I suggest front LSD values set higher than rear values.
For driving techniques, there's only one important thing to keep in your mind: do everything early. Brake earlier, turn in earlier, accelerate earlier. The car's reactions on rally tracks are slower than usual, so leaving everything as late as possible is not a good idea. Also, using the usual racing lines (out-in-out) will not help you. Stay inside as much as possible (except maybe at the exit, so it'll be in-in-out), you'll be surprised at how the front will always want to wash out, especially since you're using a heavy, 4WD car.
In the end, it's all about getting used to. There aren't much rally races or license tests in GT2, so you don't get lots of practice. But if you can get the hang of rally driving, road races will feel really easy afterwards. Also, like Famine & Parnelli said, it'd be good to use proper rally cars first. But ultimately, modified road cars are more fun and rewarding if you get it right.
Hope this helps 👍.
This all reminds me of one post, https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3069890#post3069890 
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This all reminds me of one post, https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3069890#post3069890
Lol, no we're not at this point yet!
You're gonna need to experiement with limited-slip settings, too, Black Supra...which is where things really start to get tricky. You can try something like this:
Front
Initial: 35
Accel: near max
decel: 20
Rear
Initial: 15
Accel: 20
Decel: near max
Which should allow you to slide into corners without too much chance of a spin, and then blast out of them. But those settings above are just a start. Feel free to mess around with them. Getting loose in the dirt (without spinning) is important to succeed in rallies. It's a very intuitive process.
It's tough to explain lsd settings to a novice.
If you want, Black Supra, I'll guide you to some good tutorials.
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I would imagine it would be tough.
Anyway, Thanks guysfor all the advice, I'll see what I could do with it.
But, LeGeND-1, you said It'll tend to understeer, well I find the at some sharp corners (especially at the end of a straight) I tend to brake, turn but instead of going round the corner, I spin until I go rear-first into the outside exit of the corner, no matter how close I stick to the inside. And do you think that this could be caused by too much power (the car has 600 and something HP, I'll have to check).
Anyway, Thanks guysfor all the advice, I'll see what I could do with it.
But, LeGeND-1, you said It'll tend to understeer, well I find the at some sharp corners (especially at the end of a straight) I tend to brake, turn but instead of going round the corner, I spin until I go rear-first into the outside exit of the corner, no matter how close I stick to the inside. And do you think that this could be caused by too much power (the car has 600 and something HP, I'll have to check).
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Well the in that case you may be turning-in too much. Do you keep the wheel turned all the way through? If that's the case then you need to learn how to countersteer. I'm sorry I generalised my post there, because when I drive I usually get understeer, rarely I spun out when doing rallies.
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I just did a little research, and found the 400R is able to get a race-kit. If you haven't done so yet, you need to buy one so you can get the downforce/aerodynamics boosted up. And buy a full-customized limited slip, too (if you haven't already). Try those LSD settings I posted. That + the race kit should help limit spins.
600 horsepower might be a bit too much, too. Depends what you're racing against, tho. In some rallies, the Ai is weak and/or drives bad...you won't truly need 600 horses.
Another tip: once you get to the last 2 Pike's Peak uphill races, your 400R will be no good. You'll need either an Escudo or a Cultus...since the Ai drives the Cultus for the first race and the Excuseo in the 2nd. Some speed demons have managed to do these races in lesser cars, but that's because they're extremely patient and good.
You know who you are.
600 horsepower might be a bit too much, too. Depends what you're racing against, tho. In some rallies, the Ai is weak and/or drives bad...you won't truly need 600 horses.
Another tip: once you get to the last 2 Pike's Peak uphill races, your 400R will be no good. You'll need either an Escudo or a Cultus...since the Ai drives the Cultus for the first race and the Excuseo in the 2nd. Some speed demons have managed to do these races in lesser cars, but that's because they're extremely patient and good.
You know who you are.
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Another tip: once you get to the last 2 Pike's Peak uphill races, your 400R will be no good. You'll need either an Escudo or a Cultus...since the Ai drives the Cultus for the first race and the Excuseo in the 2nd. Some speed demons have managed to do these races in lesser cars, but that's because theyre extremely patient and good.
^That and the last race at Tahiti Maze, the Evo VI can be quite frustrating too sometimes.
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Oh yea, forgot about Tahiti Maze 
I forget what I used for the hardest of them...maybe the Escort Rally car? I forget.
I forget what I used for the hardest of them...maybe the Escort Rally car? I forget.
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...complete jerks mainly, yeah. =)
I remember myself digging this question (what cars are able to do that), the only one I came up with was the FTO LM. Its closest opponent was the Celica RC (the one with 560+ hp), my best time was +1.[smth] compared to the Escudo. And yes, I'm talking about the Escudo only.
Sorry for going off topic.
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Only with the Cultus I'm able to beat the Escudo so far. FTO LM came close, followed by del Sol LM. Haven't tried the Celica yet. FTO beats Cultus easily though...
Does anyone here thinks beating the Escudo will be easier if it isn't a ghost? I'm not a fan of cheating, but if the Escudo is solid (not ghost) we can at least block it from overtaking once we're in front...
Does anyone here thinks beating the Escudo will be easier if it isn't a ghost? I'm not a fan of cheating, but if the Escudo is solid (not ghost) we can at least block it from overtaking once we're in front...
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Yes. It would make things easier because you could block the Escudo if you passed it, or at least the Escudo would have to ram you or somehow pass you fairly to get back ahead. ON the other hand, you can also get ahead of it by driving thru it.
But personally, driving thru a ghost messes with my head. It has screwed up my cornering line. I'd prefer to race the actual car.
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Same here, I especially hate it when I got really close to the ghost and it turned semi-transparent. You can't see what's ahead and moving to the right/left would also move you off the racing line. So my solution is to turn off the ghost altogether. This way, when the ghost is in front it becomes totally invisible (except for smoke trails), so you can just focus on beating the ghost's time.
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Very true. Those 3 ghost options are great. I usually had the translucent (see-thru) version.
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I haven't heard of anyone beating the Escudo up Pikes Peak with anything other than the Cultus or the Escudo itself. I tried for hours to race with the FTO LM and del Sol Lm, but I wasn't even close. I think the Suzuki Cultus PP took me about 15-20 tries to beat the Escudo, and it's a good challenge.
There's a couple of fast GT2 players from the past that may have done it, but I haven't bumped into any thread here or elsewhere by anyone admitting to doing it.
I like having the ghost on translucent, so I can see the corners coming up.
There's a couple of fast GT2 players from the past that may have done it, but I haven't bumped into any thread here or elsewhere by anyone admitting to doing it.
I like having the ghost on translucent, so I can see the corners coming up.
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Totally agree.
Save that particular rally for last, and use the Cultus or Escudo for it.
ON your next run thru (there will be at least one, trust me)
Take your time and do your absolute best on the liscense tests.
The Spoon S2000 in stock trim is perfect for the Trial Mtn Enduro. (it is my first race after conquering the liscense tests). From there, you can do just about anything you want.
To keep things challenging, you should pretty much keep to the cars that "belong" in the event.
Except for the really low powered events (100HP and less), you will find that you don't need anywhere near the max allowed HP. In fact if you run 591 HP in the races with that limit you will be leading by double digit seconds in any contest of 3 to 5 laps.
The "preview" feature helps a lot with choosing a car. And in GT2 using it doesn't add days to your total days elapsed.
Save that particular rally for last, and use the Cultus or Escudo for it.
ON your next run thru (there will be at least one, trust me)
Take your time and do your absolute best on the liscense tests.
The Spoon S2000 in stock trim is perfect for the Trial Mtn Enduro. (it is my first race after conquering the liscense tests). From there, you can do just about anything you want.
To keep things challenging, you should pretty much keep to the cars that "belong" in the event.
Except for the really low powered events (100HP and less), you will find that you don't need anywhere near the max allowed HP. In fact if you run 591 HP in the races with that limit you will be leading by double digit seconds in any contest of 3 to 5 laps.
The "preview" feature helps a lot with choosing a car. And in GT2 using it doesn't add days to your total days elapsed.
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There was a thread topic about this awhile back...I think somebody beat the Escudo & Cultus with an FTO LM. I think. I don't feel like searching for it tho.
I think. I don't feel like searching for it tho.
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For some reason, the GT2 forum contains just 4 pages now.
Anyway, https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2810205&postcount=3
Anyway, https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2810205&postcount=3
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Just 4 pages? Probably your connection flaked out some how. Try later. Or else you have some parameter set screwy (e.g. "since date", or "posts per page").
