High Speed Drifting

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Can someone post a video of what they are calling 'speed drifting'? To me speed drifting would involve a lot of four wheel sliding.
 
NightBattleDori
I've noticed a small gap as well. To be honest, I border the fence when it comes between show and speed drift, as I actively participate in both, though I do more speed drift.

Unless there is a team - I've neglected to look just yet - I offer starting a speed drift team. I'm open to names, as NightBattle just sounds so biased towards a certain someone ~cough~ me ~cough~ ... :sly: Let me know on that guys ... I'll get right on the webpage.

Now, I don't see why people consider this as "starting a fad", as it's not. Quite simply, it's a gathering of people who share a certain drift style, or those that want to learn and better their drift style. Also, why is there a push to speed drift MR cars? I say speed drift whatever the hell you want, and impress that way. To me, it's just not a person's true flavor if they're using a car they don't necessarily like.

Okay ... if you speed drift, and you're reading this post, give a shout. I'm sure HammerShot and I both want to know who's who with this style.

Also, please no flaming of others for their vehicle selections ... I'm sure you'd be pretty pissed if someone was bagging on your car while you're out picking up groceries at the local Kroeger.
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Can I join your team plzz?? I'm into speed drifting too.

and about the team name how about Speed Fantasy? what do you think? :dopey:
 
d3p0
You can drift plenty fast with high angles if you have enough momentum.
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i agree with you. i was under the assumption that if u had more momentum that you would be able to pull off bigger angles. if your speed drifting and have low angles and almost no countersteer, that doesnt really show that infact you are "drifting." to me thats just racing and losing a little grip but thats just imo. when i speed drift, which i do quite often, i try to pull really big angles since i have enuf momentum.
 
Hi guys..
fast/speed drift, good thread - sounds fine...

Fast drifting is not like show drifting - different car setup, different style, different speed, different tire choice... and different competitions.
But I didn't understand The Idea.
To create a team and start a challenge? Where? On Xlink 👍 may be
Or make knowledge database for fast drifting?
What for You're talking about?
 
maggkrabar
Hi guys..
fast/speed drift, good thread - sounds fine...

Fast drifting is not like show drifting - different car setup, different style, different speed, different tire choice... and different competitions.
But I didn't understand The Idea.
To create a team and start a challenge? Where? On Xlink 👍 may be
Or make knowledge database for fast drifting?
What for You're talking about?
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hehe, just joking :) (i've just been dying to use that somwhere)

check the GTPDC/GTPC thread
there is a set of judging criteria for speed drifting presented there.
to have a speed drifting battle all you would need is a replay of your lap.
so to answer your question of "Where?", i will reply with a "Here"

of course, this isnt to say that a couple guys couldnt do so on Kai either. But I'm not entirely sure of how popular an option this is.

hrm...... echo?
that or i'm starting to sound like a broken record
i posted something remarkably similar to this in the second post in this thread.....missed it i guess
 
Ryen49
This thread is turning into grip vs drift, brock lmao. :)
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Actually it isn't. I haven't seen anything talking about that. It's been steadily about speed drifting. I'd appreciate you stopping the attempts to demolish my thread. Just because you don't like the concept doesn't warrant the ill manner 👎
 
Sloth
Ok ok..

Speed drifting?

Drifting with grip?


Now I'm really lost..
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That I mean too. SEARCH won't work :)

and Touge Drifters in the thread name. I cannot imagine TOUGE race with relays.

difference?

Touge Max(Best Motoring video - Hot Versions)

For touge race You have only one chance to win - battle. 1 vs 1 battle on the same replay(Xlink?) - and You can use speed drift to win or use drift vs grip to win(with drifting You can block an opponent while cornering - touge techniques :)) Or parallel replays may be.

That is touge battle I think. All other is just GTPDC/GTPC(one week practice, post replay and wait - that is not real touge battle. it is only drift competition).

I like speed drifting. And I like touge battles.
High Speed/Touge Drifters
 
HammerShot
Actually it isn't. I haven't seen anything talking about that. It's been steadily about speed drifting. I'd appreciate you stopping the attempts to demolish my thread. Just because you don't like the concept doesn't warrant the ill manner 👎
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Don't target Ryen.

It's me.

And it's not that I don't like the concept; I just don't understand it.

Would someone explain the goal or meaning of the concept in direct terms?

Please?
 
Touge :rolleyes: More like Tarmac Rally...

Drifting doesnt block your oppenent all the time. Given enough a wide enough arena, you have your pick of multiple lines and points of attack. I don't see how this is any different from having a regular race on Xlink, just with alittle sliding mixed in.
 
Touge is essentially tarmac rally, but passing is extremely dangerous on roads like that, and as a general rule (even in BMI), passing is not allowed, because you need room to give to your opponent so the cars don't collide by accident.

What I don't understand is this Speed Drifting thing.

It was around in GT3 and I still don't get it..

There was even competitions based around it, but still.

:confused:
 
Ok my jets have cooled down now. Sorry if I seemed Po'd.

Kansei Drift- this is performed at race speeds, when entering a high speed corner a driver lifts his foot off the throttle to induce a mild over steer and then balances the drift through steering and throttle motions. Note that the car that is being used for this style of drift should be a neutral balanced car therefore the over steer will induce itself. If the car plows through any turn this technique will not work.

From: http://www.modernracer.com/tips/driftingtechniques.html

That is a basic idea of a common High speed drift . Simply put it is a marriage of racing and drifting.

I know I misexplained my basis when starting this thread. I never really meant that touge and speed drifting are the same thing. My Intention was that by my observations they are often done by the same people, and wanted to draw them out .
 
How do you join two things that almost completely oppose eachother?

I've read that description before, and what they are implying is that you fly into the corner with an entry speed that is almost too high, then use your decelerating engine to shift weight forward and oversteer into the corner.

It does not mean do it while racing.

This technique has also been called 'accel-off' or 'accelerator off'.


I still must be misunderstanding something though.

If it's that obvious, feel free to call me a retard.
 
Sloth


I've read that description before, and what they are implying is that you fly into the corner with an entry speed that is almost too high, then use your decelerating engine to shift weight forward and oversteer into the corner.

It does not mean do it while racing.
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That's the answer right there. Concentrate on race trim and use that technique on every possible turn. Keeps the angles lower, speed up, and lap times down. No I feel any need to call you a tard. Heck I feel like one myself today. :drool:
 
What's the point in keeping lap times down while drifting?

I always looked at it as one of those "one or the other" type things.
 
Sloth
What's the point in keeping lap times down while drifting?

I always looked at it as one of those "one or the other" type things.
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Honestly I want to answer your questions, but it is starting to get over my head :scared: . I am still a rookie drifter. If anyone else can explain things better, please do. Maybe some of my topical blunders can be repaired :dunce:
 
well, i'm not a race-drifter, but I'll give it a shot

Sloth:
I've been rummaging through the gt3 drift forum for any better explanation than that which I have provided below, all to no avail. Most threads that begin on this topic get steered towards the dreaded _____ vs _____ debate, and there's no way I plan to open up that can of worms here. :sly:

Now, 'why?'
Well, it likely comes from people trying to replicate the style of driving on the BMI vids people have been mentioning here. But, as far as I can trace it on GTP, its just individual preference, I don't think there's any other explanation than that. Its just for the challenge. Exhibition drifters go for the challenge of hitting high angles and smooth smokey links. Speed drifters try to keep the rear sliding, albeit at a minimal angle, and shave tenths off their lap times. Done right, the tires wont enter a big smokey drift, but they will begin to slip. It can increase exit speed, and marginally lengthens straights by allowing acceleration out of a turn earlier.
Speed/Race drifting is just as much of a test in control, it takes just as much skill, it's just the delivery that differs.

now, in terms of what it is, i found this thread:
Racing Drift Discussion
it might shed some light on the 'why' aspect, but seems to be more a discussion of various approaches and line choice. Keep a sharp eye for posts by Thio and Prime. oh, and DR (i suppose he would still have been known as Silvia Drifter) has a few good ones tossed into the mix

i've been trying to find some of Sheron's vids from gt3 that really pointed out the differences of each for those still not grasping it (not just singling you out Sloth). But all the links are down. :grumpy:
anyways, he's probably a good authority to talk to on this matter if you want some sort of insight. He was/is quite accomplished in both techniques in GT3 - and I fully expect he will be in GT4.

i guess what i'm really saying is that if you dont understand it, dont lose sleep trying to understand it.

now, someone come in and correct me please :sly: 👍
(dont be suprised if I edit this several times)
 
I know what slip angle is, and how it functions, but it seems this whole "Speed Drifting" activity has a weak foundation and so should be ignored.

Which what I intend to do, and would suggest others do as not to skew one's view of what's fast and what just plain looks cool.


There are various 'styles' of driving, but the fastest style is no style at all.

I hope that makes sense..
 
I was serious, albeit a bad example. Sorry bout that one. I couldn't think of anything else.
Oh well, back to LFS.
 
Sloth
I know what slip angle is, and how it functions, but it seems this whole "Speed Drifting" activity has a weak foundation and so should be ignored.

Which what I intend to do, and would suggest others do as not to skew one's view of what's fast and what just plain looks cool.


There are various 'styles' of driving, but the fastest style is no style at all.

I hope that makes sense..
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I can't think of a decent coment so I'll just leave this. 👎 :irked:

Well I guess I can say that is a very narrowminded statement. Just because you don't understand/like it doesn't mean you should make a comment like that. So if you are done please vacate the thread and I'll dismiss it. I really don't care if you think it is cool or not. There are those who do and that is what this topic is for.

Midnight that was a really bad joke.
 
WHy are you guys talking about the Touge and its drifters?First thing, that a touge is a narrow road that has at least two lanes, In gt4, you have large roads to do kansai drifting or other techniques. The only touge, I can think of in GT4 is Nurburgring. about the "Speed drifting" The only members I have seen it done is SHERON,Ryen49, and a few others.
 
nightkids4ever
WHy are you guys talking about the Touge and its drifters?First thing, that a touge is a narrow road that has at least two lanes, In gt4, you have large roads to do kansai drifting or other techniques. The only touge, I can think of in GT4 is Nurburgring. about the "Speed drifting" The only members I have seen it done is SHERON,Ryen49, and a few others.
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Actually it's more about speed drifting. Touge is more of a side note.
 

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