Hispania F111 Launch

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It says something like "ATTENTION: strong sucking effect. Hold onto something when standing here". They're all over the car; there's one on the rear wing that reads "The car ends here", a third on up near the camera mounting that says words to the effect of "You are being filmed", another in the cockpit that is "Warning: car is very fast. For professional drivers only". There's also one just under the Tata logo, pointing at the ribbon that divides the red from the white, but I can't make out what it says.
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Gosh that's classic! :lol: nice to see some humor on the cars. I remember there being a lot of funny stuff around when they were trying to cover up tobacco sponsors like Honda's 'Look Left, Look Right' and Jordan's 'Be On Edge'.

Robin.
 
Well, if that's the upgrade that i just hope that it'll make out on all qualy. event. Pass the 107% rule.

But then i just thought, maybe they should change their engine. 💡
Rather than stick to Cosworth, just search for the other one. But then again, the stupid contract messed it up.
 
Williams are perfectly happy with the Cosworth engine. Virgin, Lotus and Hispania were slow because of their aerodynamics, not their powerplant. In fact, I can't recall a situation where any of the Cosworth runners blew an engine in 2010. Most of the time, the problem was a) the hydraulics, b) the gearbox or c) the driver.
 
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Williams are perfectly happy with the Cosworth engine. Virgin, Lotus and Hispania were slow because of their aerodynamics, not their powerplant. In fact, I can't recall a situation where any of the Cosworth runners blew an engine in 2010. Most of the time, the problem was a) the hydraulics, b) the gearbox or c) the driver.
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Yeah, now you've help me remember it. lol. :P
But the Cosworth losing bhp with the likes of Merc. and Renault. See the Brazillian GP, the Hulk's Williams losing speed at the straight.
Maybe also because of the aero. Like you said.
 
Seems some here are too lazy to even copy links across, so here are the various messages on the car (courtesy of the Autosport forum):

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Yeah, now you've help me remember it. lol. :P
But the Cosworth losing bhp with the likes of Merc. and Renault. See the Brazillian GP, the Hulk's Williams losing speed at the straight.
Maybe also because of the aero. Like you said.
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Rubens Barrichello reported back in testing 2010 that the Cosworth was only missing some drivability compared to the Mercedes. This is due to Cosworth not having those 4 years of engine software experience that the rest have. The power, durability and weight of the Cosworth are meant to be at the same level as the rest, if not above. Its just the way the engine delivered the power at various points that was the only downside.
On an F1 steering wheel, the driver has the ability to change the throttle map on the entry, middle and exit of corners, I assume it was this that the Cosworth wasn't optimised for.
As it always is with Williams lately, the aerodynamics let it down. Back in the BMW V10 days, Williams had the most powerful engine on the grid. Yet they still were beaten by Ferrari due to inferior aerodynamics.
 
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Ardius
Seems some here are too lazy to even copy links across, so here are the various messages on the car (courtesy of the Autosport forum):
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I didn't have those images, so I was trying to decipher them from the full-size images.

What does that last one say?
 
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This is probably my favourite looking car this year. I didn't even notice the comedic sponsor logos before reading here, they're great, I hope they're on the real car. I doubt Force India can match this, in my opinion it's the best so far. (Though the shape isn't quite as good as the Mclaren).

As for the shape though, it looks very similar to last years car apart from the front wing. The sidepods have been cleaned up a bit, and everything looks a little less draggy, but it still looks like it'll be at the back of the field. I reckon it will be reliable though. With Virgin the only one of last years new teams not to outsource the hydraulics and gearbox to an established/reliable team, I think HRT could beat them in the standings again just as a result of reliability.
 
According to Nick Wirth, Virgin dedicated a lot of time to rectifying their reliability problems for this year.
 
Virgin are still using Xtrac though...whereas Hispania have got Geoff Willis and a Williams gearbox. Virgin will have focused a little more on reliability this year, whereas Hispania will have focused on speed.
And then we have Lotus who have gone radically different.
 
I wasn't expecting the new Hispania to look like this. The livery reminds me of the old Super Aguri car.

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I didn't have those images, so I was trying to decipher them from the full-size images.

What does that last one say?
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I can only make out some of it, something like "Do not talk to the pilot". I don't know what the last part says though.
 
Great looking car. Not exactly going to be tearing up lap records, but it should quieten the detractors for a while... Nice livery too.
 
Wait, are those little messages real or photoshopped?

If they are real, this car is the best looking one and the most hilarious car on the grid by light-years! I absolutely love it! 👍
 
That's brilliant. They're never going to be the fastest car, so at least they can make themselves stand out by having a sense of humour. Genius.
 
Bram Turismo
Wait, are those little messages real or photoshopped

If they are real, this car is the best looking one and the most hilarious car on the grid by light-years! I absolutely love it! 👍
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I think not only the messages, but the whole car is nothing more than a computer-made image. A bit like this one, but with better definition.

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And again, I don't think the car has been launched. We're just seeing what this car is supposed to look like when it exists. Better than what USF1 gave us last year (even the computer images were basic) but still ... not a car.
 
Oddly - the article about this on the BBC website has now gone (it was in Tuesdays gossip column) - and in that it said that the build had taken place in Berlin...

C.
 
HRT for 2011 WCC. You heard it here first.

Now I know it's silly to expect something like that form them, but i'm expecting to see great things from this car. The aero looks pretty complex and impressive, not a singe thing carried over from the F110, showing that they have a new beginning. As much as people will disagree, I think these guys will beat Lotus and Vrigin this year, and i'll put my money down on that happening, with hopefully Liuzzi at the wheel, along with Narain, who isn't doing bad at all.

Also, pretty clever stuff around the car...
 
Peter
HRT for 2011 WCC. You heard it here first.

Now I know it's silly to expect something like that form them, but i'm expecting to see great things from this car. The aero looks pretty complex and impressive, not a singe thing carried over from the F110, showing that they have a new beginning. As much as people will disagree, I think these guys will beat Lotus and Vrigin this year, and i'll put my money down on that happening, with hopefully Liuzzi at the wheel, along with Narain, who isn't doing bad at all.

Also, pretty clever stuff around the car...
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You're just being silly. And since when did Liuzzi have fans? Wouldn't Christian Klien be a better choice?
 
Ardius
You're just being silly. And since when did Liuzzi have fans? Wouldn't Christian Klien be a better choice?
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Dammit, look at the car, first glance it looks impressive. No championship, of course for HRT, but points is possible, and beating Lotus and Virgin is more or less possible. Liuzzi is fast, just inconsistent, too much for Force India's comfort. And I think the fact that he crashed last year sometimes was boldly underlined by crashing at Suzuka, not his fault, and him being the only retirement in Brazil, and crashing again in Abu Dhabi, not his fault.
 
Liuzzi is very inconsistent and not even that fast when he is delivering. His best performance I can remember recently was his return at Monza 2009 and even then Sutil was ahead of him (albeit, Liuzzi hadn't much seat time prior to that). He started quite decent in 2010, but rapidly declined as the season wore on. His Toro Rosso days were a bit better, but even then he isn't that impressive, he kept showing the promise of being a good driver..but he's still not turned into one. How many more chances does he need to finally start delivering? Its not like he's been in terrible teams either.

Although for Hispania, Liuzzi would be a small step-up, Klien is a better driver (though not that amazing himself). Liuzzi doesn't bring money, so why bother? I'd actually say Hispania would be better off hiring a rookie than Liuzzi.
 
Ardius
Liuzzi is very inconsistent and not even that fast when he is delivering. His best performance I can remember recently was his return at Monza 2009 and even then Sutil was ahead of him (albeit, Liuzzi hadn't much seat time prior to that). He started quite decent in 2010, but rapidly declined as the season wore on. His Toro Rosso days were a bit better, but even then he isn't that impressive, he kept showing the promise of being a good driver..but he's still not turned into one. How many more chances does he need to finally start delivering? Its not like he's been in terrible teams either.

Although for Hispania, Liuzzi would be a small step-up, Klien is a better driver (though not that amazing himself). Liuzzi doesn't bring money, so why bother? I'd actually say Hispania would be better off hiring a rookie than Liuzzi.
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Remember Korea last year? 16th to 6th? I know ,that was a very eventful race, but he drove well and came 6th, while Sutil was busy playing bumper cars with everyone. If anything, it showed that, although not very often, he's more than worth it. And 2010 was his first full season since 2007.

About Liuzzi vs. Klien, HRT wants someone who has experience with a higher team, which Tonio has. Klien was at Red Bull, in 2006, ages ago. Liuzzi has some modern experience in F1. Klien did 2 races. I believe Liuzzi brings a few nickels and dimes, and I know Klien doesn't. And Liuzzi is certainly better than a rookie. Imagine this, you have a test tomorrow, but you have an old book with a little bit of notes, versus a new empty book. Which will help more?

Give Tonio a chance :nervous:
 
Exactly, 16th to 6th in a race where there were several safety cars. If I remember right, he jumped quite a few people in pit stops due to tyre choices. A fine drive indeed, but at the end of the day Sutil scored over double his points over the season...and Sutil started the year badly when the car was relatively competitive!
Let's not forget that Sutil himself is not hugely rated either, he's yet to beat a teammate that is known to be very good, so if Liuzzi can't even match Sutil on a regular basis, we can assume he wouldn't match Fisichella either.

I don't see where Liuzzi has really shown he deserves a full-time seat in F1, all he has ever shown is flashes of speed usually in wet races.
Give him a chance? He's had 3 already! How many more does the guy need?
 
The humorous livery won't be funny if the performance is equally comic, I really hope they put a lot of effort in this car and made some progress, otherwise they'll struggle to find sponsors and thus, to stay in F1.
 
I think Joe Saward - of all people - put it best when he described Liuzzi as "decent" (though Saward was using this to make a case for Liuzzi staying in th sport). Liuzzi might be decent, but this is Formula 1. Decent just isn't good enough. Even drivers like Petrov, how has a reputation for crashing, can be rated higher than Liuzzi. After all, Petrov spent an entire race weekend in Hungary out-performing Robert Kubica. And he was holding his own; he didn't benefit from a well-timed safety car like Liuzzi did in Korea. Liuzzi has never really had a race like that.
 
Petrov > Liuzzi? I think that the fact that Petrov only scored marginally more points than Tonio in 2010, in a car that consistently Q3's and has podiumed before, and could've done it again on a number of occasions, versus one that's never come higher than 6th, doesn't really reflect very good on Vitaly.

Put them on a team together, and although Liuzzi might not be as consistent, maybe crash more often, he would probably edge out by seasons end. I could be wrong though now, as Petrov has some experience under his belt now. We probably won't find out, since Senna and Nicky are both more likely.


I just really want to see Bruno's career take a step forward, he's a good driver who just needs to prove himself, and i'd not want that to be ruined by an old German whose been out looking in for a long time.
 
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I just really want to see Bruno's career take a step forward, he's a good driver who just needs to prove himself, and i'd not want that to be ruined by an old German whose been out looking in for a long time.
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Don't forget getting to see the yellow helmet with the black and gold livery :D I actually find it just a tiny bit creepy that we might get to see a Senna in those colours again...Can't wait for the season opener now!!!
 

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