History of Nürburgring

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Construction of the 'Ring began in September 1925 by the design of Otto Creutz. The reason for the track was to be a showcase for German automotive engineering and racing talent. It is built around the village and medieval castle of Nürburg.

nicknamed the course (the version players of GT4 know) "The Green Hell" and it is widely considered the toughest and most demanding race track in the world.
The 'Ring is actually 3 tracks in one. The complete track was 28.3 Km (17.5 mi) long and 6.7 m wide (ca. 22 feet) with a total of 174 bends. This is then divided into two other tracks, the Südschleife (Southern loop) (7.5 Km (4.8 mi)) and the Nordschleife (Norhtern loop) (22.8 Km (14 mi)) (the one in GT4).

After WWII the Nordschleife became popular again, and was used in F1 races until the late 1960's (with the exception of 1959)

In the 1970's the track was under reconstruction to try and bring back the F1 racers. But in the end, mostly due to it's extreme length, it was unable to meet the ever-increasing safety requirements.

Work on a replacement trackm, named GP-Strecke, (4.5 km (2.8 mi)) next to and partly over the 'Ring began in 1981 and was completed in 1984.

Today most of the Sudschleife is mostly gone or has been made a normal public road, but the Nordschleife is a one-way public toll-road with no speed limit (altough it has been reduced to 20.8 Km (13 mi)). Often it is closed off due to testing of cars or races, but when open it is frequently used by motorsport enthusiasts. It is notable that accidents are very common on the 'Ring.

The annual highlight of the 'Ring is the 24 hour endurance race, which takes place in mid-June, where 220 cars (from 100bhp to 700bhp), over 700 drivers (amateurs and pros) and up to 220,000 spectators.

The 'Ring, as stated before, is used by many car manufacturers, where the most notable are BMW, Porsche, Mecedes-Benz and Audi. In 2002 GM also used the 'Ring to help enhance the 6th gen of Corvettes.

The fastest lap (Nordschleife) in a sports car is 6:25.91(Derek Bell or Stefan Bellof) which was on a Porsche 956 in 1983 and on a motorcycle is 8:22.2(Marco Lucchinelli) on a Suzuki 500ccm in 1980.
 
TheGr8one
The fastest lap (Nordschleife) in a sports car is 6:25.91(Derek Bell or Stefan Bellof) which was on a Porsche 956 in 1983 and on a motorcycle is 8:22.2(Marco Lucchinelli) on a Suzuki 500ccm in 1980.

Nice work, you can find even more here

http://www.nurburgring.org/history.html

Also the 6.25 time you give was for Stefan Bellof and was set during the race, the actual fastest lap time is 6.11 secs, again set by Stefan Bellof in a Porsche 956 during qualifing.
 
When is the exact date that the 24HR race is being held this year...? 💡

I may have found some time for 24 hours of Nurb. :sly:
 
Well done indeed! 👍

I just wanted to add that the Nordschleife is used by a lot of car manufacturers all around the world, such as all the big Japanese names. In Japan, the "green hell" is also known very well as one of the most challenging race tracks in the world.

Cheers,
the Interceptor
 
thats a nice summary, but you have done one popular mistake, saying the ring had no speed limit. thats true for most of the track, but some parts have speed limits. you can see the sign even in GT4, one is found at breidscheid for example and there are a few in the middle of the long döttinger höhe straight, near the exit that is used during the public days, to ensure that people slow down before they leave the track.
those speed limits are not strictly enforced, although at times when the accident rate rose they had speed cameras installed and fined people for going too fast.
 
Great to see other enthusiasts for the Ring, appreciating the unique history and challenge of this circuit! :)

I would have bought GT4 for this track alone. Lets hope in GT5 they will keep it, and ad a few more historic and challenging tracks to it (Spa, Silverstone to name just 2).

If you find time, please also check out this highly informative web sites:

www.nurburgring.org.uk
(videos, pictures, trip reports, maps, guides,) all you need for real life experience!

www. nurburgring.de (german and english version!)
http://nurburgring.de/index.php3?lang=eng
Keep 'RING"ing!!

Stinger05
 
76 was the last year F1 cars raced there. The year Niki Lauda nearly burned to death.

I too would love to see some more old F1 tracks appear in future GT releases.

Rouen and old Spa Francorchamps were terrific tracks. Masta kink and Eau Rouge are two peices of track I'd love to tackle.
 
Ebiggs
When is the exact date that the 24HR race is being held this year...? 💡

I may have found some time for 24 hours of Nurb. :sly:


The race is held from 5 till 8 may ( bring some warm clothes with you!!!)
 
One problem I find in the 24 hour enduro in GT4 is that the whole ENTIRE time the sun is out!! :yuck:
I hope in GT5 they can get the "Day to Night" effect... 💡
"The Ring" 24 hour enduro would be so much cooler...
And with weather/climate changes??
Even cooler... :dopey:
I'm hoping that's going to be in the 24 hour enduros... :)

:p
 
A few months ago, I read an article about the Ring in my bike magazine.

It mainly said that even if it is a mythical place, one mut not forget that anything bearing a licence plate can run on the Ring, even school buses ! So riding a bike there can be very dangerous. But absolutely fantastic...

Damn ! Where are my keys ?!
 
Nice write up TheGr8one.

euvanol
..one mut not forget that anything bearing a licence plate can run on the Ring, even school buses ! So riding a bike there can be very dangerous. But absolutely fantastic...

Very true. I have seen many in car videos when someone goes flying round a corner, and suddenly there is a large coach full of tourists in front of them. With this in mind, motorcyclists need to bear in mind that diesel vehicles can use the 'ring on public days, and I have heard of motorcyclists hitting patches of diesel on the track and ending up in the gravel or worse, the armco.

This picture is always a good reminder of how much respect this track deserves

laptimes-michael-simons.jpg
 
I always wondered why PD only put the 20.823 km long Nordschleife in the game. As you may know, the track used to be longer years ago:

sudschleife.jpg


Half an hour ago I found an older video of the southern part of the track, the so called Südschleife.

http://sudschleife.8200rpm.com/videos.htm (the first, 5.8 MB video)

I now know why it is not in the game. :-)
 
hitman146
well hello there thanks for the info good write up i would like to ask on whice part the 24 hour race in real life takes place

The 24-hour race is run on the Nordschleife plus part (I don't think all, but I'm not sure) of the current Grand Prix course. Where we turn right onto the start/finish straight, the 24-hour course continues straight, onto the GP course pit straight, and after navigating the GP course they return with a hard left onto the Nordschleife instead of taking the Grand Prix course's CocaCola curve. It's 25-some-odd kilometers.
 
RouWa
It is on the version of the track that is in the game.

To my knowledge, the 24-hours at the Ring take place on the ''combined'' track of the Nuerburgring (known e.g. to many of us from the Formula 1 races) AND the Nordschleife (the part we have in GT4).

The ''F1''-track joins the Nordschleife at the final corner (right hander) before the start/finish line. If you have the time, go in the game straight ahead instead of right at this final corner and you are able to see part of the modern Ring, including the pits, track,etc. nice detail from PD.

May be we get the whole lenght in GT5...................
 
wfooshee
The 24-hour race is run on the Nordschleife plus part (I don't think all, but I'm not sure) of the current Grand Prix course. Where we turn right onto the start/finish straight, the 24-hour course continues straight, onto the GP course pit straight, and after navigating the GP course they return with a hard left onto the Nordschleife instead of taking the Grand Prix course's CocaCola curve. It's 25-some-odd kilometers.

Sorry for double posting...i did it parallel to your reply......great minds think alike...

Keep 'Ring'ing!
 
To my knowledge, the 24-hours at the Ring take place on the ''combined'' track of the Nuerburgring (known e.g. to many of us from the Formula 1 races) AND the Nordschleife (the part we have in GT4)

That´s right.

The northern parts of the Südschleife are gone because of the GP track, but the rest is still there. In 1999 the Südschleife was a special stage in the German Rally.
 
RouWa
That´s right.

The northern parts of the Südschleife are gone because of the GP track, but the rest is still there. In 1999 the Südschleife was a special stage in the German Rally.

Thanks for the info!
I know they use it also for some other unusual stuff, like bicycle road racing, etc...
IT IS JUST THE TRACK! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
 
There is also a compound for driving safety now on some parts of the former Südschleife. I hope we get a combined track (Nordschleife + GT track without the Südschleife) in GT5.
 
I read somewhere that Stephan Bellof's insane 6min 11 wasn't entirely on the Nordschleife - some work was being carried out around the pit area, so a detour was used that missed the last corner/pit lane. Correct me if you will.
 
ewhiles
What is the most amount of laps anyone has acquired doing the 24 hour Endurance at the 'Ring? I finished with 224 laps

Good question, cause I finished with the same amount in all 3 cars i've done it with.

Excellent write up too, and that picture is awesome, had no idea of what the real track looked like at one time. 👍
 
RouWa
There is also a compound for driving safety now on some parts of the former Südschleife. I hope we get a combined track (Nordschleife + GT track without the Südschleife) in GT5.
That'd be great. Why should Fuji Speedway have more variations then the 'ring?
1) Nordschelife only
2) Nordschelife + Südschleife
3) Nordschelife + GP circut
4) GP circut only
5) Südschleife only
 
Just got the latest Top Gear mag and it has a booklet with it, in the booklet its got a little feature about the ring.
It says the fast time round the track in a 'Road Car' was set last year by touring car racer Phil Bennet driving a turbocharged Radical SR3 (pushing the definition of a road car).

Time :7m19.7sec or 12.8secs faster that anyone has done before.

It also looks like they are going to try to beat JC 9.99 time he set in the Jag with Ford Transit Van!!!! looks like fun
 
i think one of the reasons they didnt include the southern bit is because, people will want to see how close they can get their times on the ring to the real thing from the maufacteres and haveing the southern bit would make this difficult
 
It also looks like they are going to try to beat JC 9.99 time he set in the Jag with Ford Transit Van!!!! looks like fun

9.59! It was the Episode on Nov. 24th 2004. One of my fav episodes btw.

Sabine Schmitz vs. Jemery Clarkson vs. The Ring part II will be great. I hope they show it this evening.
 
Emohawk
That'd be great. Why should Fuji Speedway have more variations then the 'ring?
1) Nordschelife only
2) Nordschelife + Südschleife
3) Nordschelife + GP circuit
4) GP circuit only
5) Südschleife only

Agreed. I hope these 5 different 'Ring variations get included in GT5.
 
Thanks to the OP and the rest of you who added tidbits for all the Nurburgring info. Love that place.

I would so love to see the old Spa in GT5, as well as the modern GP course. And while I'm at it, I'd love to see Mosport in there too. It was the home of the Canadian GP in the 60s and 70s (maybe even the 50s?), it's just been resurfaced and widened - it's so ripe for being GT5ed.




Hans Stuck did a 7:49 around the Nordschleife in a BMW X5 that was packing, if memory serves, BMW's Le Mans V12.
http://www.bsmotoring.com/2002/02jan05_2.htm
 

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