Horsepower inconsistancies

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Can anyone tell me what's up with your car's horsepower showing different values in different parts of the game?

For example in my '97 MIRA:

70hp showing on my garage screen.
69hp showing on the "sell" sheet.
72hp showing in the replays.

Which one's right? Why do they have different values? Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance,

Fastcat
 
return of the hp inconsistencies!

havent seen them this bad since gt1/gt2. gt3 was pretty good about it, but they return in gt4 :indiff:
 
Could it be PS to HP to BHP conversion issues. I know pal can change their HP readout to be different measurements, if US can, try using PS and see if it matches everywhere. I run Chinese copy and it is all PS only. Haven't seen any inconsistencies here.
 
actually its not a bug i dont think...what u see when u go to buy a car is the published hp rating...but for a lot of japanese cars, these arent accurate. then i believe that the garage shows how much ur car should make and replays show how much it makes for that race taking engine break-in, mileage/engine damage, oil quality and all that into consideration. just my opinion tho. it seems to be true for the infamous 276 hp cars.
 
jr93alty
actually its not a bug i dont think...what u see when u go to buy a car is the published hp rating...but for a lot of japanese cars, these arent accurate. then i believe that the garage shows how much ur car should make and replays show how much it makes for that race taking engine break-in, mileage/engine damage, oil quality and all that into consideration. just my opinion tho. it seems to be true for the infamous 276 hp cars.
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Sounds about right.
 
I consistently see 20-30hp less on the race screen than I do in the garage. I think the garage measures crank horsepower, and the track measures wheel horsepower. The published number in the used car area is just that; the published number.
 
Savington
I consistently see 20-30hp less on the race screen than I do in the garage. I think the garage measures crank horsepower, and the track measures wheel horsepower. The published number in the used car area is just that; the published number.
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What bothers me is that the sell sheet and the replay figures are different. I just dont get that.
 
I notice big changes between garage numbers and race numbers. Someone check to see if the number in the top right of the settings matvhes the garage. I'm too lazy to go look right now.

If I had to hazard a guess, well I don't know. It seems like the in-race number is just way off, and hopefully wrong, because it's always lower. But how are you supposed to know what number the game is giving your car for the race? That's what bothers me most. With stock cars this doesn't happen so much, at least the difference isn't much at all. Incosistencies get bigger the higher power and more modified a car is.
 
yeah in the tuning shop its hp at the crank and in the other places its hp at the wheels which is less
also i was told by a teacher of mine that 276 hp was like a limit in japan for their cars, idk if he was right though
 
The gentlemens agreement is abolished in Japan now, so HP war here we come.
But yeah in real life terms, cars won't have the same horsepower everyday, cooler weather = more power and hot weather + heatsoak = less power.
 
hey I'm not picky and I'll play the game regardless. I just think it's a load of $h(t. I mean if your gonna make them represent crank hp, wheel hp, or hp due to weather atleast tell us which is which.
 
can anyone try taking the same car at ice arena and some other hot place and see if temperature does anything to power? i seriously doubt it would though...
 
How Insensitive are alot of you?

Get over it
Who cares

Those remarks are stupid and maybe if no one has anything descent to say about the topic then piss off and don't reply.

fastcatsi is just trying to point something out that either might be a bug or was put in the game for a reason, since alot of you are smartarses then find out why this Horsepower thing occurs?
 
I just think that with such a vast amazing game it's ridiculous to point out something like +/- 20 horsepower conversions.
 
Giancarlo
I just think that with such a vast amazing game it's ridiculous to point out something like +/- 20 horsepower conversions.
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Whether it is or not the thing i'm pointing is the lack of respect. Gt4 is a great game right? its suppose to bring people together in a good way not bad.

He just asked a simple question. From what I am reading a race can go down to the wire right? well 20HP could get you over the line sometimes.

And from what I have read this problem doesn't occur in all versions of the game so it must be a bug right?
 
Giancarlo
You're acting as if i had slapped his mother. :lol:
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What kind of remark is that?

Just do what ever you please, your like talking to a brick wall. RESPECT is all I asked for.
 
Here is a discrepancy for you. The Pescarolo Courage C60 is listed in the dealership as having 527 hp. When I bought it and put it in my garage it said 800. woohoo! an extra 273 hp free of charge!
 
this bothered me at first too but now that i think about it it would seem to be crank and wheel numbers per track my gnx shows 311 hp but anywhere from 290 to 293 hp on the race screen i'd say altitude temperature and wear/oil would also have an effect
 
Has anyone else noticed that when you buy or win on the LeMans cars you get like almost 200hp more than what the specs of the purchase page says? I mean I guess its nice but 900+ hp in a 900 kg car is just too much. It makes cars like the Toyota 88C-V become unrealistically fast. Plus it is here where the Japanese favortism is more notable. For example: Toyota 88C-V is listed as having 788 BHP, in reality it only had 560 BHP
HTML: 
http://www.tte.de/lemans/1988-88c.html
. The BMW V12 LMR is listed as having 571 BHP, in reality it had 590 BHP
HTML: 
http://www.fast-autos.net/bmw/bmwlmr.html
. Its not that they took down the BMW V12 LMR 19 BHP but the fact that they gave the Toyota 88C-V a magical 228 BHP. It makes a difference. I know I'm not the first one to call out the Gran Turismo franchise on this but it just really upsets me sometimes. Don't get me wrong I love this game and I love Japanese cars, but please GT give credit where its due and level the playing field.
 
fastcatsi
Can anyone tell me what's up with your car's horsepower showing different values in different parts of the game?

For example in my '97 MIRA:

70hp showing on my garage screen.
69hp showing on the "sell" sheet.
72hp showing in the replays.

Which one's right? Why do they have different values? Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance,

Fastcat
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This is my opinion on the subject:

Replay = manufacturers advertised figures
Sell sheet = actual horsepower you have when driving
Garage screen = actual, ORIGINAL horsepower

You buy a used r34 skyline and it could read...

replay = 276
sell sheet = 301
garage = 303

for example.
 
IMO i dont think PD would not have noticed an issue like this. There must be a reason behind it

so this is my opinion

Used Car Dealer = power of car after you take it for an oil change
Garage screen/Sell Screen = max horsepower that car can have with the upgrades you give to it repesctively
Replay = power you have when you drove that time (so temperature and climate might have something to do with it?)
 
Wow, some people need to lower thier troll settings. All I was doing was asking a simple question.

I like to keep track of my hp and power to weight ratings in all my cars and I was just curious if anyone had found the same "quirk" in the game and knew which ratings were correct.

Those of you that helped, thanks for your assistance.
 

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