How can I get better at rallying?

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Hey all, I have just started to became interested in dirt racing in GT5. But I really suck at it: I mean, I cant go 3 metres on dirt without spinning, when I turn to go around a corner, even the slightest movement, and the car spins. When I do that, and the car slows down (Including when I brake for a corner) the car takes ages to get going again, by around 3 seconds, just spinning around.

It's really annoying, but makes me really, really happy that rally is optional, and you don't need to do it in A-Spec or B-Spec to progress, that's fantastic.

Any way I can get better? In a way that I can do a lap without spinning around in circles all the way through. I know I have to turn traction control off and other things, I'm talking about how to turn properly, and brake right. Thanks.

Also, please no "0mgz U suckz0rd", or "L3rn 2 dr1v3" posts.
 
Wheel or controller user ?

Throttle control is key and manual trans is almost a neccessity.

All aids off. abs optional.

Turn early and not at grip racing speeds. When the back starts going countersteer and let the car drive you. Do not just mash the gas. You want about half throttle still to use if needed to kick it out a little more.


Best i can do because of a couple things.
1. I suxzorz
2. I n33d2 lern t0 dr1v3
;)

Goodluck.
 
Try using a 4WD or FF to learn and start slow (early gentle braking, casual acceleration), building up the aggression as you get used to dirt driving. Keep in mind, you can't step on to a rally course and suddenly become Sebastian Loeb.
 
@Caz; I use a wheel. I always use manual on manual cars, and this one I was driving was manual. I was just mashing the gas most of the time, looks like that was wrong :dopey:. Thanks for the advice.

@MrDinosaw94; yea I will try and get one, and I never really expected to be good at it, but not this bad :sly. Thanks, I will try to practice, and progress the aggression, sort of the same with road racing the faster cars.

If it helps by the way, I was in the Toyota CELCIA rally car.
 
It is for sure alot "harder" with a wheel. By that i mean alot more work.

Im still practicing. I have golded all the special rally events but cant gold loeb. As i said, i suck too ;)
 
Throttle control.

Single most important factor. Rally is controlled aggression.

My advice, get a low(ish) powered and relatively light weight RWD car and drive around a dirt track with as little sideways driving as possible.

Once you've mastered this, transferring what you've learnt to AWD is easy.
 
I think the physics are a bit strange in PDs rally races.... Years ago I used to play Colin McRae's Rally game and remember it being fast and fun. In GT5 I seem to spend a lot of time trying to build up any speed! Maybe PD has the more realistic physics, but I wouldn't know because I've never driven a rally car.
 
Thanks for the replies. Would have answered a lot sooner to people, but I got carried away playing Crysis 2 :dopey:

@Caz; I know this, I can do a lot better with the DS3 controller, but I love using the wheel.

@XPLOSV; Right, I will try that first. The car I drive has around 300BHP (Not sure, could be more), Is that too much?

@jkt008; I know this already, but thanks 👍

@seadog777; Neither have I, and the only other game I have played with rally in it is Dirt 2 demo, that's it.

@Jai; I will try this, but as XPLOSV said, I will get out in a low powered car first.
 
The Delta isn't exactly powerful, I learned in it and its great considering the general shape and the 4WD system.
 
I think I said that because I think mine is modified. Not sure though. I have driven it on the road, and it's a pretty good car, I will try it out though.
 
Jai
The Delta isn't exactly powerful, I learned in it and its great considering the general shape and the 4WD system.
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The Lancia Stratos is quicker than the Delta IIRC, but it isn't a very good learner car for beginner rally drivers. And for some advice: Make sure you have TCS off (but I think you already knew that), and try not to drift every time through every corner, as you loose time that way.
 
elitedriver123
The Lancia Stratos is quicker than the Delta IIRC, but it isn't a very good learner car for beginner rally drivers. And for some advice: Make sure you have TCS off (but I think you already knew that), and try not to drift every time through every corner, as you loose time that way.
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I used the Stratos for the rally events, a beast to control, and even to keep it on 4 wheels is hard.
 
@elitedriver123: I think that was a problem as well, as well as the mashing of the throttle, I tried to drift the corners.

@Jai: Don't think I will use the Stratos then :scared:
 
I had some braking trouble with the car too, which I made a thread about sometime back. Though I only moderately tuned it to meet the regulations, I still had no control, and every single time I braked it spun round no matter how careful I was. Not to mention the fact I also rolled it over on a high speed corner.
 
That's what I was doing before, I had no control at all. I think it's just that I need a lower powered car to get used to it, and progress through to get to the more powerful cars, and hopefully master it.
 
Egor
@elitedriver123: I think that was a problem as well, as well as the mashing of the throttle, I tried to drift the corners.

@Jai: Don't think I will use the Stratos then :scared:
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It just depends on the corner. Like a bi-oval corner would need only minimal drifting, and a hairpin would need a good drift to negotiate quickly. Also, braking can be a bit of a problem on gravel, so you'll need to brake a bit earlier than usual.
 
I was on Eiger W trail, and there is a hairpin on there (I think), and I couldn't even slowly go around it, as soon as I broke, the car just slid into the barrier, next lap I tried to drift a little, and I just spun completely.
 
I would suggest learning in one of the WRC cars (My favorite is the Citroen, rally tune here)
Also, try watching this. It is Colin McRae going over basic driving techniques and styles, and is actually something I found to be quite helpful when I started to learn rally racing.

Throttle control is the absolute key. If you notice in the video, McRae uses the throttle to corner much much more than the handbrake. Hairpin corners are the only ones that anything aside from normal brakes should be used. Also, you need to go slower to go faster. Enter the corner nice and smooth, then accelerate out. You don't want to be all aggression as you will not keep as much control, and your exit speed, which is as important to lap times as throttle control is to handling.
 
I will have to make up a bit of money for the WRC cars, would it be worth it?

Thanks for the video, really. Some really good advice in your post, I never used the throttle at all through the corners, I was basically driving like I did on the roads, so I will try to improve on that.
 
Egor
I will have to make up a bit of money for the WRC cars, would it be worth it?

Thanks for the video, really. Some really good advice in your post, I never used the throttle at all through the corners, I was basically driving like I did on the roads, so I will try to improve on that.
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The WRC cars would be worth it, but there's plenty of other cars -- even productions -- that are capable of rallying to almost the same level. The Subaru Impreza is a pretty good example.
 
Right. Looks like I will be doing some seasonal races :sly: . But at first I will try some cheaper alternatives.
 
Egor
Hey all, I have just started to became interested in dirt racing in GT5. But I really suck at it: I mean, I cant go 3 metres on dirt without spinning, when I turn to go around a corner, even the slightest movement, and the car spins. When I do that, and the car slows down (Including when I brake for a corner) the car takes ages to get going again, by around 3 seconds, just spinning around.

It's really annoying, but makes me really, really happy that rally is optional, and you don't need to do it in A-Spec or B-Spec to progress, that's fantastic.

Any way I can get better? In a way that I can do a lap without spinning around in circles all the way through. I know I have to turn traction control off and other things, I'm talking about how to turn properly, and brake right. Thanks.

Also, please no "0mgz U suckz0rd", or "L3rn 2 dr1v3" posts.
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Add me on PSN: Silent7Sniper7,
i'll give you a hand on rally.
 
@elitedriver123: lol :dopey:

@Silent7Sniper7: Yea okay, I will add you now :sly: . Thanks.
 
JLawrence
I would suggest learning in one of the WRC cars (My favorite is the Citroen, rally tune here)
Also, try watching this. It is Colin McRae going over basic driving techniques and styles, and is actually something I found to be quite helpful when I started to learn rally racing.

Throttle control is the absolute key. If you notice in the video, McRae uses the throttle to corner much much more than the handbrake. Hairpin corners are the only ones that anything aside from normal brakes should be used. Also, you need to go slower to go faster. Enter the corner nice and smooth, then accelerate out. You don't want to be all aggression as you will not keep as much control, and your exit speed, which is as important to lap times as throttle control is to handling.
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Yeah, slowly but "audaciously" getting into corners is the fastest way of passing each turning maintaining hold of enough control of the car on our hands, haste is out of necessity in rallying like under wet weather condition(except that the car is liable to slide aside even in going straight) and needs sufficient amount of practice in becoming faster on the dirt.
 
I was doing that as well, every time I broke, turned, whatever, I hasted, and after I spun out.
 
Egor if you want tips add me on PSN. I must say im a better rally then road driver in this game xD.
But heres some tips
No TCS/SRF (you will be faster with a little bit of oversteer
Only brake when not turning because i have noticed when i brake while turning i spin out
Dont try to go overwhelmingly fast for you very first tries.
Throttle control is also a very major part of dirt/snow driving.
Just add me and maybe on monday or later today i can give you some tips and pointers
 

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