How can I spare my tires when racing.

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Use a wheel. In my opinion the DS4 is very difficult to manage the tyres and the greater control on a wheel allows carefully managed steering input which can save tyres in the long run.

Setup also matters, loads of understeer, toe or camber will wear out tyres more as far as I know.
 
Even though you think your English is bad, everyone understands what you're geting at.

If you run a race with say 5x to 10x or more tyre wear then you have to bring your driving discipline to bear.

ONe thing to note is that I think you only wear out tyres when you drive the car too hard... ie. you scrub rubber off the tyres when you throw the car too hard into corners and it squeals, dont drift, dont power slide.

If you drive the car smoothly and accelerate brake and corner within the tyre's performance ability... ie. keep the tyres quiet, then you should have very little wear.
 
There are people far better qualified than me to answer this question, but I will try:

In a word, smoothness.

No throttle in corners where possible or use higher gears with minimal throttle.

Get on the power slowly and smoothly. Everyone seems to have worked out the code let’s you hold just under half throttle until it’s safe to put the rest of the power down (not easy with non linear throttle input coding).

Steer less (hard on ds4).

Brake less hard.

Basically don’t drive in a way that is fun or enjoyable, because that will kill the tyres.

What a time to be alive.

RIP enjoyable racing.

Thanks (not) to whoever decided to introduce the stupid x25 tyre multipliers, this will kill off many people’s interest in the fia championships.
 
Also try tweaking the brake balance - I notice that the more positive/negative BB affects the respective drivetrain, so if you see that your front tyres are wearing more than your rears - maybe put +1/2 brake balance - of course it depends from car to car - but it will definitely affect the final result even with a tiny bit.
 
Trail-braking will help you go faster through corners, but it will wear your tires quicker. In races with high tire wear, I don't trail-brake as much unless I'm battling. Brake in a straight line, release brake when turning in, apply smooth throttle on the way out. "Slow in, fast out" is the popular phrase. This mindset will help save your tires, even if it's not always the fastest technique to achieve a great lap time.
 
No throttle in corners where possible or use higher gears with minimal throttle.

Get on the power slowly and smoothly. Everyone seems to have worked out the code let’s you hold just under half throttle until it’s safe to put the rest of the power down (not easy with non linear throttle input coding).

Steer less (hard on ds4).

Brake less hard.

Basically don’t drive in a way that is fun or enjoyable, because that will kill the tyres.

RE: Throttle, I personally find applying less than 10% throttle while brake helps keep the car rotating through the turns and helps even out the wear without increasing it, using no throttle at all through corners = time lost + making the fronts do too much work in FWD cars. Look at the telemetry from top racing drivers, the best ones do this, even the ones who drive in a series where they need to harvest/regen hybrid or electric power, as soon as they're off the brakes they're on the throttle at the soonest possible opportunity.

RE: "Brake less hard", I think what you mean is don't use the brake as an on/off switch. Also, I've found in GT Sport that the brakes perform better when you never apply them past 80-90%.

Lastly, if you expect to be able to brazenly stomp and stab the throttle + brakes as if it's a PS1 game then I've got a reality check for you; the best drivers in the real world are usually the ones who can push their car whilst looking after them. It's why Schumacher had less breakdowns than all of his team mates, it's why Jim Clark was able to get the fragile Lotuses to survive F1 races, and it's why Tom Kristensen has 9 wins at Lemans + 6 wins at Sebring.

If you think racing isn't enjoyable just because you're having to try do the same things that all race drivers have to do in the real world (even those who race in short races) and want to use the throttle + brake as an on/off switch like a PS1 game, then I suggest you go do something else with your time. You will never improve with this attitude.
 
Put simply you need to caress the car around the track and drive at 90% which is far easier when driving alone than in traffic.

The easier the car turns into the corner the less you are stressing the tyres. If you are praying the car is going to hit the apex you are almost certainly killing the tyres.

So brake a fraction earlier, get as much if the slowing down done in a straight line as possible(you can still trail brake a bit) get the car straight as quick as possible and dont spin the wheels on exit. All of this will save the tyres.

Also if that sounds boring or slow it's not really the case. Its striving for those last 3-4 tenths that takes 75% of the life from the tyres. You can still lap quickly and save tyres but if your on the ragged edge the whole race(as many folk are) making little mistakes here, running wide there, spinning the wheels here then your tyres will ultimately wear quicker.
 
Listen for the tires squealing while turning. The more they do that the shorter the life span of your tires.

Braking hard doesn’t really matter all that much if you use ABS.
 
Use as little steering angle as possible, this takes practice. don’t push too hard during cornering. If you understeer you’ll Hurt the front tyres. If you oversteer you damage the rear tyres.
 
RE: Throttle, I personally find applying less than 10% throttle while brake helps keep the car rotating through the turns and helps even out the wear without increasing it, using no throttle at all through corners = time lost + making the fronts do too much work in FWD cars. Look at the telemetry from top racing drivers, the best ones do this, even the ones who drive in a series where they need to harvest/regen hybrid or electric power, as soon as they're off the brakes they're on the throttle at the soonest possible opportunity.

RE: "Brake less hard", I think what you mean is don't use the brake as an on/off switch. Also, I've found in GT Sport that the brakes perform better when you never apply them past 80-90%.

Lastly, if you expect to be able to brazenly stomp and stab the throttle + brakes as if it's a PS1 game then I've got a reality check for you; the best drivers in the real world are usually the ones who can push their car whilst looking after them. It's why Schumacher had less breakdowns than all of his team mates, it's why Jim Clark was able to get the fragile Lotuses to survive F1 races, and it's why Tom Kristensen has 9 wins at Lemans + 6 wins at Sebring.

If you think racing isn't enjoyable just because you're having to try do the same things that all race drivers have to do in the real world (even those who race in short races) and want to use the throttle + brake as an on/off switch like a PS1 game, then I suggest you go do something else with your time. You will never improve with this attitude.

I do race in the real world, Mr. attitude police :)
 
Above all else, be smooth. Slow steering inputs, gradual braking and acceleration. Another thing that helps is to go into the audio settings and set "tire noise" to +5 and reduce some of the other volumes. If you hear your tires screeching reduce your steering angle until you don't.

Trail-braking will help you go faster through corners, but it will wear your tires quicker. In races with high tire wear, I don't trail-brake as much unless I'm battling. Brake in a straight line, release brake when turning in, apply smooth throttle on the way out. "Slow in, fast out" is the popular phrase. This mindset will help save your tires, even if it's not always the fastest technique to achieve a great lap time.

If you are on a track where one tire is wearing more than the other, as mentioned above braking in a straight line will help a lot.

Especially on tracks with a long straight into a hard braking zone or hairpin. If you are max on the brakes and steering hard left or right you will brake less effectively and destroy whichever tire you have put all the weight on.
 
My goto move to make tires last is to up the hardness. Drive on racing hard if you can. Makes the car grip less but the tires last longer
Even if you move to racing medium you save wear and become more competitive with others running softs
 
There are people far better qualified than me to answer this question, but I will try:

In a word, smoothness.

No throttle in corners where possible or use higher gears with minimal throttle.

Get on the power slowly and smoothly. Everyone seems to have worked out the code let’s you hold just under half throttle until it’s safe to put the rest of the power down (not easy with non linear throttle input coding).

Steer less (hard on ds4).

Brake less hard.

Basically don’t drive in a way that is fun or enjoyable, because that will kill the tyres.

What a time to be alive.

RIP enjoyable racing.

Thanks (not) to whoever decided to introduce the stupid x25 tyre multipliers, this will kill off many people’s interest in the fia championships.

I have the same feelings about fuel saving. That does help tire wear as well, but such a shame to let that nice turbo kick go to waste in the F1500 not to get passed in the pit. So in the end I just went full out, more fun. Couple extra seconds in the pit oh well.

That annoying tire wear multiplayer basically introduced crippling damage when you get punted into a spin and the gravel in lap 1. Instantly your tires are a lap behind everyone else's.

Anyway, stay on the road, avoid kerbs where possible, no sudden corrections, use another car as a guide rail in corners to save your tires (dunno if that works, some people seem to think it does :lol:)
 
Didn't read every post but...

Use as high a gear as possible through corners provided you don't lose much time. Not only will you save tires, you'll save fuel as well.

Lower gears = higher rpms = more wheel spin = more tire wear + higher fuel consumption.
 
Use as little steering angle as possible, this takes practice. don’t push too hard during cornering. If you understeer you’ll Hurt the front tyres. If you oversteer you damage the rear tyres.
This is the single most important thing IMHO.
Most people "over"drive by steering way too much, especially on the controller where you have no feedback...
This results in just murdering the front tires...
I often wonder why this kind of style is faster in many qualifying laps (and races without tire wear).
I think it should still make you slower if you "over"-steer, i.e. not make use of optimal grip...
 
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