How do you overtake on narrow tracks?

[Alpha Cipher]

I've always set fast lap times in lobbies especially in the 'Ring where I spend most of my time playing but... When it comes to actual races I almost always have to get first in the first corner else I'd be always held back by the ones in front of me because of my horrible overtaking skills. Any tips on overtaking others in narrow tracks? Thanks

 

[eran0004]

Apply pressure and wait for a mistake. That's the only thing you can do really, if there is no gap you can't overtake.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I've always set fast lap times in lobbies especially in the 'Ring where I spend most of my time playing but... When it comes to actual races I almost always have to get first in the first corner else I'd be always held back by the ones in front of me because of my horrible overtaking skills. Any tips on overtaking others in narrow tracks? Thanks

I'm not a fast driver so I'm talking theoretically and based on discussing this with a friend who is a Ring expert - it's like real racing, keep close enough that when a mistake is made you can capitalise with a pass. On shorter tracks spot where the other player is weaker and plan a move for an appropriate part of the track - you may still have to wait for a mistake as well. With a long track like the Ring you need to know it so well that you can string a sequence of corners together better than your opponent. You may need to get two wheels on the grass to overtake - in real life this would result in a visit to hospital, but in a game you might get through.

 

[NixxxoN]

Use narrow/small cars. Not joking. I.e. KTM X-Bow or Lotus Elise. They are good choices too when it comes to laptimes.

Also the Caterham... oh god how much fun you can have in the Ring + Caterham only race... but due to its very low weight it is terrible in PP races.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I always hated racing on the 'Ring because unless you're with a group you know and trust, overtaking is just chaos there. Apply the pressure, be ready to capitalize on mistakes and try to draft past on the straighter parts of the track. If you and another car are alone entering Antoniusbuche (back straight) you're better off being behind and drafting as you near the end of the straight of course.

 

[CTznOfTime]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...llenge-nürburgring-nordschleife.331861/page-5

 

[BadgerVadge]

well... there are certain places on nurburgring that are wide enough for double lane safe passes if your crazy enough lol. i race nurburgring daily with a group of good trusty clean nurbaholics. the easy passes i make are because i stick close on people's rear until they feel pressured and make a mistake.
i would recommend just practicing over and over. start racing PP limited lobbies (i do 500pp and 550pp) and learn how to race neck and neck with others and deal with the pressure so it doesn't affect your mind. Learn how safely follow a couple feet behind another car the whole lap... and train yourself to have faster reactions and leave a little bit of room for (potential) error.
BUT... the first main thing is to know the track well enough to survive a whole lap without,mistakes (while adjusting your line for other cars) . sometimes racers dont make a clean pass and take out 2 or 3 cars and that's an easy pass.
my favorite spots to pass are the slower corners or the hard braking corners.
once you hang in there with the fast ones it just becomes natural feeling pushing your limits haha those fast af racers can win races with barely any passing because they can pull consistent times like robots. they are the ones who know the exact grip threshold and speed to blaze through laps.
i remember after my first "good race win" i felt exhausted because i was in the adrenaline zone and concentrating so much for a long lap hah thats why gt6 is addicting.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Apply pressure and wait for a mistake. That's the only thing you can do really, if there is no gap you can't overtake.

That's actually what I'm currently doing
Although sometimes it can be troublesome because it's a bit of a waiting game and not really effective if you have a ton of cars ahead of you

I'm not a fast driver so I'm talking theoretically and based on discussing this with a friend who is a Ring expert - it's like real racing, keep close enough that when a mistake is made you can capitalise with a pass. On shorter tracks spot where the other player is weaker and plan a move for an appropriate part of the track - you may still have to wait for a mistake as well. With a long track like the Ring you need to know it so well that you can string a sequence of corners together better than your opponent. You may need to get two wheels on the grass to overtake - in real life this would result in a visit to hospital, but in a game you might get through.

I know the 'Ring like the back of my hand so stringing a sequence of corners better than my opponent is (Usually) not that hard. But then catching up to your opponent is one thing, and overtaking them is another
Might try your overtaking suggestion if I get the chance to play Let's just see how it will turn out

Use narrow/small cars. Not joking. I.e. KTM X-Bow or Lotus Elise. They are good choices too when it comes to laptimes.

Also the Caterham... oh god how much fun you can have in the Ring + Caterham only race... but due to its very low weight it is terrible in PP races.

I usually race in a Civic (If the opponent's really good I use an NSX) for 500PP, a ZZS (R390 if opponent's really good) for 550PP, and the McLaren F1 in 600PP races. Are they small enough?
Oh heck yeah Caterham's a very fun (And fast) car! Shame that PD's PP system doesn't suit the Caterham

I always hated racing on the 'Ring because unless you're with a group you know and trust, overtaking is just chaos there. Apply the pressure, be ready to capitalize on mistakes and try to draft past on the straighter parts of the track. If you and another car are alone entering Antoniusbuche (back straight) you're better off being behind and drafting as you near the end of the straight of course.

So there's virtually no overtaking points on the 'Ring other than straight parts? Well if that's the case I'm pretty much screwed cause I usually sacrifice top speed in favour of acceleration

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/a-spec-expert-level-race-car-challenge-nürburgring-nordschleife.331861/page-5

Thanks, will give it a read

 

[Alpha Cipher]

well... there are certain places on nurburgring that are wide enough for double lane safe passes if your crazy enough lol. i race nurburgring daily with a group of good trusty clean nurbaholics. most passes i make are because i stick close on people's rear until they feel pressured and make a mistake.
i would recommend just practicing over and over. start racing PP limited lobbies (i do 500pp and 550pp) and learn how to race neck and neck with others and deal with the pressure so it doesn't affect your mind. Learn how safely follow a couple feet behind another car the whole lap... and train yourself to have faster reactions and leave a little bit of room for (potential) error.
BUT... the first main thing is to know the track well enough to survive a whole lap without,mistakes. sometimes racers dont make a clean pass and take out 2 or 3 cars and that's an easy pass.
my favorite spots to pass are the slower corners or the hard braking corners.
i remember after my first "good race" i felt exhausted because i was in the adrenaline zone and concentrating so much for a long lap hah thats why gt6 is addicting.

Every now and then I'm crazy enough to do those crazy passes. Although more often than not I get to take out at least one car in the process Shoutout to all those I bumped! Sorry!
Me too I usually stay at their backs with a time gap of around .300-.050 seconds until they make a mistake. I'm pretty much used to the pressure thanks to a friend I always get to race neck-and-neck with so pressure techniques almost never works on me

 

[BadgerVadge]

LMAO Jericsm... im AKJimboSlice hahaha what a coincidence...you already know about the intense racing daily w/ the 500-550pp nurb crew lol they are some insanley fast 550pp drivers running sub 8 min laps at N24. im down to 8:10s w/my R32 Skyline almost there haha

 

[Alpha Cipher]

LMAO Jericsm... im AKJimboSlice hahaha what a coincidence...you already know about the intense racing daily w/ the 500-550pp nurb crew lol they are some insanley fast drivers running sub 8 min laps at N24. im down to 8:10s almost there

Cool! Yeah pretty intense racing there! And also thanks to you I honed my braking skills so I threw away my ABS and instead used threshold braking
At best I can now perform 7:50s at the 'Ring

 

[NixxxoN]

I usually race in a Civic (If the opponent's really good I use an NSX) for 500PP, a ZZS (R390 if opponent's really good) for 550PP, and the McLaren F1 in 600PP races. Are they small enough?

The ZZS is very small indeed, the othrers not so much.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

The ZZS is very small indeed, the othrers not so much.

Oh lol okie

 

[xiando]

The way I see it, if you're on a narrow portion of track, you either draft and wait for them to make a mistake or wait for for the road to widen again. In the first case, you have to be steady and patient. If you can't be steady, y'ain't ready!

 

[ULTRAVIOLENZZ]

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