How I'm going to save Formula 1

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While browsing the usual run of news sites, I noticed that Luca di Montezemolo is doing what he does best by being a part of the problem and pretending he's a part of the solution. This little gem stuck firm in my mind:
“This year all the movements of the drivers has been basically based – except for [Kimi] Raikkonen to Ferrari – based on what money drivers can give to the teams. This is for Force India, for Sauber, for Lotus and for Williams. It is not healthy…”
Now, if that was coming from anyone else, it would probably be a valid point to raise. But given that Ferrari has one of the biggest - if not the biggest - budgets on the grid, his words struck me as hollow. Teams are being forced to take paying drivers so that they can make up their budget. And their budgets are so high because the front-running teams spend so much, which drives costs up. You cannot spend hundreds of millions of dollars each year, and then complain that the sport is in an unhealthy state because teams are forced to take pay drivers.

So rather than just complain about Luca being Luca, I started thinking: what could possibly be done to save the sport. And I think I have the solution: going back in time. Figuratively.

I'll be up-front about this - my proposal involves customer cars. But rather than having one team sell their chassis to another, I think I have found a way to make the situation fair. In my vision, manufacturers are the only ones to build and develop a chassis (and engines). They sell these as a product to the teams at a fixed price, and the teams compete on their behalf. There would also be a limit on the maximum number of chassis a manufacturer could supply. All cars using a particular chassis would be eligible to score points in a new championship title, the World Manufacturers’ Championship (and to avoid confusion, the constructors’ championship would be renamed as the World Teams’ Championship).

By fixing the price of all chassis, the FIA can directly control costs, because it would be in the interests of the manufacturers to make a profit. There would also be a rule setting the minimum number of teams a manufacturer must supply, preventing one or two manufacturers from supplying everyone and thus dominating the grid to make bigger profits. Every team that joins a manufacturer would get exactly the same chassis and engine as the others that joined. All of it would be regulated by the FIA to ensure parity. The price for a package would be fixed, so Ferrari teams would pay exactly the same amount as Mercedes teams, Renault teams, and Honda teams. Manufacturers would only get an income from selling the chassis, and with the FIA controlling the price of the chassis, they would only have a limited budget for developing the car. There would have to be some kind of external control to limit what money the manufacturers could spend on development, but I think it would work.

The whole thing would be expensive, coming in at around $50 million for a full package. But if there are four manufacturers, and twenty-four grid spaces, that means each manufacturer could have three teams, which gives the manufacturers a budget of $150 million per season, or about what midfield teams are spending. Additional income could come from a team paying more to be the de facto works team, and getting upgrades a race or two in advance. Assuming there are four manufacturers, overall expenditure would come in at around $600 million per season, rather than the $600 million that the top three (or possibly four) teams are spending.
 
So basically a cost cap?

EDIT: Actually, this does sound a bit like what the ACO did with LMP2.
 
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So where's the room for development? After the FIA makes sure the initial chassis are at parity with eachother, do they then just allow the teams to take over and slap upgrades on as they wish? I feel like the racing would be closer this way, but the same teams would still come out on top again, in the beginning at least.

I totally support the return of customer cars, why were they such a taboo with fans lately (seemingly after around '05)?

Just allow these new teams to get started with half way decent machines. Imagine if HRT was allowed to use the previous year's Williams or something, situations like that.
 
There's an idea- if you win the constructors championship, you must sell your cars for... $100 million?, and only to a bottom tier team.
 
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. Teams are supposed to spend money in the pursuit of success.

If they don't then there is no point to it at all.

If smaller teams can't compete then they should leave the series to those that can. The top teams can run three cars to make up the numbers.
 
Having the manufacturers the sole suppliers of the chassis sounds a bit dangerous to me. I just don't think it's safe to depend on the manufacturers. Ferrari, McLaren and possibly even Red Bull are in it for the long haul but I don't think you can really trust Mercedes (or any future manufacturers) to stick around for the long term. You could argue that the money they make from selling chassis' to the smaller teams would may be enticing enough but I'm a bit sceptical.

With that said, I am all for customer cars but not if that excludes any of the midfield and rear end teams from having the choice of making their own chassis. Arguably HRT could still be in F1 if customer chassis were legal, Toro Rosso could've had a more successful 2013 if they used a Red Bull chassis and if customer chassis were available a few years ago we could have even seen a very professional team in Prodrive racing McLaren's.
 
I hate how the FIA are now patrolling everything now making cars the exact same, with little room for innovation or change. f1 is already close enough to being called symmetric to all other cars. They are entering the Nascar field where each car is the exact same..
It sucks to watch, and is not the best that it could be. I just wish manufactures would design their own cars with the money they put in to make some of the best cars in history. Only regs would be safety and efficiency standards, as teams would receive bonuses for being most efficient or what not, similar to the Michelin challenge at Le Mans. The WEC is the last true race organization where teams can compete in LMP1 and do such activities. However, the FIA is Regina the mechanical aspects so much it is a joke. Purposely limiting the fuel allowed for the r18 so it gets lower ranges then it's competitors s absurd, and should be looked downed upon..

There is so much corruption in racing, the money getting to people's head is ridiculous. The France family only gain value. Mr. Ecclestone only gains value... And whoever the hell rules the FIA is just out of orbit...
 
I agree that Formula One needs serious reform so it can appeal to both the teams/constructors and the fans. Starting with the teams: More teams are becoming financially deficient like Lotus and more will be so in the future. This is because of the massive amount of money needed to be in Formula 1. Teams earn money from their placing in the constructors championship. When a team has a bad year or years (ex: Williams, Caterham, Marussia, etc.), they have less money. A team must have enough money to develop a new car, pay members of the team, drivers, and fees to join the Formula One World Championship. It can be very hard to get enough money for this and teams will end up sacrificing to stay in Formula One which results in them not being able to compete in the Championship. To allow every team to have a better chance of winning the championships, massive changes would be made that would stay in effect until F1 is in much better shape. The first change is equal cars. Every constructor would use the same chassis. Many racing series use equal chassis for all of the teams and it has produced very close and exciting racing (NASCAR, V8 Supercars, GP2, GP3, Indycar, etc.). This would be done to make it easier for teams to compete. If a team does not do well one year, since the chassis are equal, they could possibly win the championship the next season. These chassis would also be much more affordable than the chassis being made by the constructors. Engines would be made by different companies but would be exactly the same (Ferrari, Renault, Mercedes could still make engines for F1). A second thing that I would do that would benefit the constructors is reduce the cost to enter the Formula One World Championship. This would allow more teams to be apart of the championship and would make it less costly. I would also change many rules to benefit the teams: I would allow testing anytime of the year on any track, there would be no engine limits for the season, unlimited amounts of tyres, refueling during the race, and reduced penalties for offenses.

I would also make many reforms that would benefit the fans of the sport. The car chassis would be designed similar to the early 2000's chassis but even more aerodynamic and would make quicker lap times. These chassis were a favorite among Formula One Fans. The engines would be V12. They would have the sound of the 1990s V12 engines as well which were a fan favorite. These engines would be even more powerful than the engines of the 1990s. The equal engines and chassis would provide lots of overtaking and close racing that F1 has never seen before. Because of this, DRS and KERS would be banned so that drivers would have to actually perform real overtakes. Many fans did not like these two systems because they produced artificial overtaking which resulted in hardly any real overtakes. As I also said earlier, refueling would be allowed again as well. This is because nearly every racing series does refueling and it creates real race strategy. This is quite controversial among many F1 fans due to safety. Refueling would have many new safety measures, including an auto fire extinguisher system built in the car if a fire erupts and a safer fuel nozzle. Tyres would also be changed. There would only be 3 compounds of tyres, dry, intermediate, and wet. The tyres would be normal lasting racing tyres (not the 5 lap lasting tyres in the 2013 F1 season) with very high performance. They would not be grooved and would be very durable to prevent another tyre problem like in Indianapolis 2005 or Silverstone 2013. Practice and qualifying would stay the same as they are really popular to the fans. The regulations for a track to host an F1 race would be changed. Tracks would now be able to have very high speed corners if they have lots of runoff. This would also allow the removal of all chicanes at current F1 tracks. Monza's first corner after the first chicane would be able to be taken at full throttle since the chicanes would be removed. Other chicanes that could be removed are 2nd and 3rd Monza chicane, the two chicanes at Spa Francochamps, chicane after the tunnel at monaco, and many others. Tracks could have elevation changes and banked corners as well. This would allow for more overtaking and exciting racing since chicanes would not spread the field out. I would also propose that the original spa francochamps layout be remade but with a wider track surface and runoff. I would also make a Formula One youtube channel which would have every single recorded Formula One race in full length, highlights, interviews, and more. I think that by doing all of these things that F1 would be a much better and more popular sport.
 
So where's the room for development? After the FIA makes sure the initial chassis are at parity with eachother, do they then just allow the teams to take over and slap upgrades on as they wish?
The teams do not upgrade the car. They would not be allowed to under the rules. They just compete with the car and the manufacturers do all of the upgrade work. How much work they do us up to them - they sell the chassis, engine and promise of upgrades to the teams at a fixed price. They then use that income to cover all the costs of production, and once they break even, the remaining income will be their development budget.
 
"How I'm going to save Formula 1" What a self satisfying title!! Plus you could have just said what everyone else who's ever watched F1 has thought - cap the costs. That would have been much faster to read rather than expecting - due to the title, that perhaps Bernie and co' had elected you personally to take care of the future of F1 ! ;)
 
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. Teams are supposed to spend money in the pursuit of success.

If they don't then there is no point to it at all.

If smaller teams can't compete then they should leave the series to those that can. The top teams can run three cars to make up the numbers.
While I agree with the sentiment, that doesn't work in reality.

Perfect examples: late-90s BTCC, and WRC over the last decade and a half.

In the former, budgets escalated, grids dwindled, teams were allowed up to three cars and you still ended up with championships where only one or two teams (in 2000, just the one really) dominate. Luckily, BTCC recovered by (guess what?) capping budgets, cutting technology, encouraging teams back etc. It's (arguably) as good to watch now as it was in the early to mid 90s again.

In the latter, budgets escalated, super-drivers like McRae and Loeb were paid ridiculous amounts to drive for the top teams, teams with the biggest budgets developed the best cars, formerly-winning teams like Mitsubishi and Subaru felt the financial squeeze and left, the situation snowballed into a best car/best driver combo of Citroen and Loeb, competition dwindled, fans got bored, and now nobody really cares about WRC even though a few more teams have returned and Loeb has left.

Essentially, letting the top teams spend unimaginable amounts of money harms the racing and the spectacle. The best get better, the worst get worse. The grids stretch and the racing becomes even more predictable than it is now.

What I really don't agree with is this:

Teams are supposed to spend money in the pursuit of success

...because it isn't strictly true. I can't see how a budget cap would harm F1 in the slightest. If anything, if it was combined with a slight relaxing of the rules, it would encourage greater innovation. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Sure, you may still find that Newey designs the best car, but there's every chance that with limited money and resources there's no longer the performance deficit to other vehicles they might have had before. Or a talented engineer in a smaller team may hit on something great, and because the big teams don't have a huge wad of cash over the smaller teams, that talented engineer may have a better chance of his work mixing it with the big boys.

Lower costs also mean that if one team figures out a performance advantage - blown diffusers, movable wings, mass dampers, f-ducts - then rather than banning it, chances are the development cost was low enough that everyone could adopt it instead. The playing field evens itself out, and technological development is still encouraged.
 
All of that happened in the BTCC and WRC was caused by Manufacturers.

Escalation of cost is dealt with by new regulations. Real cost escalation happens when regulations stagnate for too long and teams spend more and more money and get less and less back in development terms.

There was a Budget Cap of $40 million in F1. It did't work. They can't work. You can't stop a team with money from spending it and since financial records are confidential, how are the FIA to control it?

You can limit CFD time and Wind Tunnel time but even then who's to say Toro Rosso's CFD and Wind Tunnel time wouldn't be used by Red Bull for Red Bull?

Do you really want silliness from F1 teams pretending that they are spending their money on something that has absolutely nothing to do with F1?
 
you could have just said what everyone else who's ever watched F1 has thought - cap the costs.
Please. We all know what will happen if a cost cap was introduced. The teams would smile for the cameras, shake hands and talk loudly about how great it is - and then race back to the factories and go over the regulations with a fine-toothed comb, looking for a way out. And then they would all accuse each other of doing exactly that, as if they had not just done it themselves. After all, they did it in 2011 with the off-throttle blown diffuser ban.
 
All of that happened in the BTCC and WRC was caused by Manufacturers.

Escalation of cost is dealt with by new regulations. Real cost escalation happens when regulations stagnate for too long and teams spend more and more money and get less and less back in development terms.
These two statements contradict, since BTCC and WRC's problems were caused exactly by the rule stagnation you mention.

There's literally no difference - one team gets very good at interpreting the existing rules which have been in place for years (Supertouring, WRC), they have the money to exploit their expertise, the competitive element is lost and the sport stagnates.
There was a Budget Cap of $40 million in F1. It did't work. They can't work. You can't stop a team with money from spending it and since financial records are confidential, how are the FIA to control it?
Erm... financial records are very much not confidential for limited companies, which I believe the entire F1 grid is made up of. You can hop on google and find Red Bull Racing's income and expenditure within a matter of seconds. I can tell you they had a net worth of £4,277,000 as of 31/12/2012, for example. An account with any of the several websites that has access to such data would no doubt provide even more detail.
You can limit CFD time and Wind Tunnel time but even then who's to say Toro Rosso's CFD and Wind Tunnel time wouldn't be used by Red Bull for Red Bull?

Do you really want silliness from F1 teams pretending that they are spending their money on something that has absolutely nothing to do with F1?
I'm certain that teams would find loopholes - it's what they do.

The important thing is to cap budgets to the degree that these little things are considered loopholes, rather than simply par-for-the-course massive spending and unlimited budgets. The latter is the thing that results in spiraling development costs and a lack of competition. It's also the reason so many teams take paid drivers just for the sake of keeping afloat, which again is hardly conducive to good racing.

I'm not sure what you mean by teams pretending they're spending money on things outside F1 though. If teams genuinely are, then they're wasting money not developing their cars. If they're making it look like they're spending money on things outside F1, then that's redundant anyway unless their yearly spend comes to more than the agreed budget. And if it does come to more than the agreed budget, then that would result in investigation anyway... it just seems like a nonsensical hypothesis.
 
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle. Teams are supposed to spend money in the pursuit of success.

If they don't then there is no point to it at all.

If smaller teams can't compete then they should leave the series to those that can. The top teams can run three cars to make up the numbers.
...So being archaic is the way to go, cause progress is just a dirty thing right? So three-four teams running and making the sport so much more elitist diminishes that legacy and archaic ways you are bashing your forehead into a brick wall while saying "no change"
 
In a time where more and more sponsorship dollars are moving away from motorsports as a consequence of the current economic crisis and a ban on tobacco sponsors I'm all for a budget cap and customer cars(customer bikes for moto racing) because the net gain is the fact it keeps championship viable in the long term.
 
How is F1 still the pinnacle of Motorsport when everything which is innovative or nifty is immediately banned?

If I wanted innovation, and I was head of Marketing/research at Mercedes or Ferrari or McLaren or Honda, I'd stop wasting my time in F1 and go to the WEC. You could spend the same money, but instead of trying to perfect a part to make your car .1% quicker, you can put that money into a slightly less restrictive rule book AND shout about road-relevant technology coming from your racing.

10 years ago in the States, nobody cared if you bought an Audi. Now it's this sort of "prestige" car for people on the up and up. Why? Brand exposure. TFSi from the R8 in the 2000's didn't do them any harm. I also find it interesting that the US market suddenly has an appetite for diesel around the same time Audi perfected their R10. Mazda, BMW, Mercedes... All following suit.

Now that's all a bit of a stretch, but can you provide me with an example from F1 in the last 15 years?
 
...So being archaic is the way to go, cause progress is just a dirty thing right? So three-four teams running and making the sport so much more elitist diminishes that legacy and archaic ways you are bashing your forehead into a brick wall while saying "no change"

F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of world motorsport. There is no point to it existing as anything else.

The suggestions in this thread about what can be done to save F1 are effectively to recreate the CART PPG series. That turned out well in the end didn't it.
 
I liked CART... :p






No confidentiality. No secrets.

Easy way to make racing close... every four or five races, everyone gets access to engineering and testing data from every other team, as well as time to physically inspect any car they want. Whether the data is applicable to the current chassis or not, lower-rung teams will have the option of cloning one of several higher-tier cars for next season.

Or customer cars... which would be nearly the same thing... or both... so customer teams can see that they're not getting a watered-down version of the "factory team" car.

Of course, just because you have the best car doesn't mean you will win with it. There's still the expertise in setting up the car and tweaking it that sets the best apart from the rest.
 
Limit aero development, bring back flat floors and add wider tyres to compensate, cars are effected less by dirty air and less cost on aero development
 
If I wanted innovation, and I was head of Marketing/research at Mercedes or Ferrari or McLaren or Honda, I'd stop wasting my time in F1 and go to the WEC. You could spend the same money, but instead of trying to perfect a part to make your car .1% quicker, you can put that money into a slightly less restrictive rule book AND shout about road-relevant technology coming from your racing.

Manufacturers want an audience though, and there isn't a bigger one than for F1.
 
F1 sold the media rights to Bernie and Bernie keeps a bunch of the money himself instead of paying it out as prize money.

Also, Ferrari gets a special 2% subsidy every year regardless if they score any points or not. Why? Because they are Ferrari. Go figure.

BTW, cost controls are due to be implemented in 2015 including resource restrictions.
 
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of world motorsport. There is no point to it existing as anything else.

The suggestions in this thread about what can be done to save F1 are effectively to recreate the CART PPG series. That turned out well in the end didn't it.

Yeah because CART existed and had a history and influence as long as F1, your comparisons aren't even what you're trying to make them out to be...comparing. F1 is still a pinnacle and it becomes apparent when a major manufacture puts tons of money into an LMP that exist purely based on the F1 knowledge they learned and reworked to fit WEC.

Or teams that are planning to use 1.6t F1 engines as the rules now dictate along with KERS so...What still remains is there is an issue with the rules, if this money was being spent toward electronics, engines or other innovations or revolutions in automotive technology then I could see how a cost cap might worry you. What you should be taking issue with is FIA's control on F1 and yet virtual freedom with WEC as far as rules go, cost caps for both are going to happen.
 
I'd give all the cars 90kg of control fuel at STP per session (practice, qualy, race). Aside from minimum crash safety standards, that'd be the end of the technical regulations.
 
Was going to say... the 2.5 or so km/l (assuming roughly 300 km per race and 0.7 kg per liter) you'd have to maintain over race distance doesn't seem like such a difficult target... then I checked and saw that current F1 cars are doing 1.3 km/l at race pace... so 90 kg seems about right.
 
Easy way to make racing close... every four or five races, everyone gets access to engineering and testing data from every other team, as well as time to physically inspect any car they want. Whether the data is applicable to the current chassis or not, lower-rung teams will have the option of cloning one of several higher-tier cars for next season.

I seem to remember an episode of Top Gear where May was racing in some Finnish quasi-rally autocross thingy. The deal was at the end of the race anyone could buy anyone else's car for a set fee.

I'd think that'd work. Put a reasonable value on a car that would be cost of manufacture plus a bit (to stop teams buying cars just to be annoying). Lesser teams can buy into a competitive car. Front running teams can't keep tech secret, only how they're using it. It becomes more a competition of who can execute the best, not who has the best ideas and the most money.

Customer cars are nearly this, although historically customer cars are a step or two back from cutting edge.
 
While there are many changes that could be made, I'm a fan of one in particular. This is a variation of the rule already in use by V8supercars.

Make the chassis construction a 'within limits' control item. They should be built in a certain shape, of certain materials, to certain measurements but with generous +/- tolerances to allow for a reasonable amount of performance customization. Additionally the chassis design should be carried over to F2 (or F2 carried forward to F1) allowing teams to on-sell used cars to recover costs.
 
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