How many people race witn driving aids on?

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In GT3 I used to race with all driving aids off, no matter what car or track I was on. In GT4 however, I seem to have difficulty in keeping the more powerful race cars on the black stuff and pointing in the correct direction. So 9 times out of 10 I have the driving aids on. Does this make me one of a minority? :scared:
 
sometimes i have use the TCS (powerful cars).
but i never use ASM or what its called.
 
I take ASM off and turn TCS down to save tire in the longer races but other wise the driving stay on on the shorter races cause i dont feel like changing for every car.
 
Those who claim they never, ever, under any circumstances so much as even think of using TCS, even on the ultra-overpowered race cars, are being "less than candid" with us.
 
I never turn the TCS lower than 2 cause I find i get to much weel spin which defeats the purpose of turning it down to save tires.
 
The ASM makes you slower.
I lose 3-4 (on the Nurb 15) seconds if the ASM is at 5-10.
so why should i use it? have you the same effect?
 
i have all aids off. I am 100% and don't need to compete anymore so i like to test cars out. it is great to be on the 'edge' where the car is in control but with but a twitch will go flying. this is where you have fun with the supercars. Zonda C12S 7.3 with no aids. man that back end just flys, then grips, and off you go.
 
I usually turn the TSC down to about2 or 3, but never off. Like driving most of the old pre 70's cars with assists off, they'd never have them anyway. But only when I'm in tim trail, especially around The Nurburgring. :bowdown: Yes, it does slow you down because it controls your acceleration and power if the wheels start to lose traction.
 
I use TCS anywhere from 2-6, depending on the car. I think I used a setting of 5 on my 787B when running GT World.

No ASM for me. Didn't someone make an acronym for it that tells what it basically does?
 
On the more powerful cars, I might set my TCS to 1 or 2 to help with any standing starts, but that's about all. I find that if I adjust my camber depending on the track, that helps me find a good balance.
 
For example, when I bought this awesome BMW M5, I kept TCS on and ASM off. Then some free cruising on various tracks, just to get some idea of the stock version. After that, full suspension upgrade, racing super hard tires, and both TCS/ASM off.. And after this some serious testing at Nordschleife.
 
I agree that GT4 is much harder in this respect than GT3 was...in some of the extreme events in GT4, I would be down by up to 10 seconds after 1 lap in my r92cp because i had to move so gently off the line as to reduce tire spin, and take the rest of the lap to warm up the tires

that said, i never use ANY tcs or asm, it makes the game a lot harder but why make it easy? i won the first extreme event in the r92cp by only 10 points or so, and there were a few races where i got crushed...but it makes it a lot more interesting and difficult when i have to conserve tires and modulate the throttle coming out of corners so i dont spin or get tire wear
 
Do use a steering wheel or a joypad? I find it difficult to modulate throttle control with a joypad.
 
I mostly use the joypad...i find im faster with that than i am with the wheel, and i learned to modulate by pressing X on the left side...it gives like half throttle or so...ive had to learn how to do this because of my non-use of TCS, but give it a try...the X button DOES have some travel and u do not necessarily have to give full throttle every time u press it

it takes some time to practice it but ive gotten it down pretty well
 
I'm trying to race more effectively using the analogue sticks, I have a bit more feel of the control, especially the steering
 
I use DFP and only DFP. (Because of DS, my thumbs are somewhewre in the late 90´s!!!)
 
Zardoz, I for one can say that apart from the very start of my GT playing WAY back in the digital controller days have NEVER played any of the GT games with Aids on, what is the point of getting the game to do most of the driving for you???

Much more fun to fly off the track knowing it was your fault not the computer control.

I just love that on the edge of control feeling, but I must admit that GT4 is by far the most difficult to play on the DS2 controller. I'd love to play it on DFP, but I never have the money or room.
 
I use TCS on modern racing cars, since many have some traction control system irl. I don't use in in production cars or older Racing cars. I never use ASM.
 
Zardoz
Those who claim they never, ever, under any circumstances so much as even think of using TCS, even on the ultra-overpowered race cars, are being "less than candid" with us.
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I never ever use ASM or TCS. Even on the overpowered cars.

I race a corvette in RL with gobs of horsepower, and so I'm quite used to feathering the throttle coming out of turns. In fact, I use the game to help practice that.

You know... the first day I went out on a track, I left the driving aids turned on for fear that without them I might lose it and crash into a wall (and unlike the game, that can be a real trip to the hospital). Half way through the day, I developed the guts to turn the driving aids off on the car, and I'm so glad I did. The car was actually _easier_ to drive with them off. The thing is, the driving aids obfuscate what's really going on with the car. There's a lot of stuff that will always mystify you as long as as the aids are turned on.

That being said... the ASM and TCS in GT4 are _way_ better than they are in RL. They're not really designed to model the effects of these systems in RL... they have access to much more information and can react before the event even occurs whereas real driving aids have a delay because the car's sensors need a little time to sense the event first. The driving aids in the game are meant to work as well as they can in order to help the typical gamer drive.

The TCS in particular is _perfect_ in GT. I launch my RL vette faster with the traction control off than with it on. But I can never keep up with the TCS in GT doing it manually from a standing start. But that's okay... it's good practice to see how close I can come to matching the perfect launch of the computer cars.

You don't race with driving aids in RL. So I won't use it in the game either.

If you're having too much trouble modulating the power coming out of turns in a powerful car, then just short shift to the next higher gear. This is actually faster than relying on the TCS because it also eliminates one shift later on.

Heck, short shifting is routine with corvettes in RL because of all their low end torque... they gain a speed advantage at the exit of turns not as much because of their horsepower but because they don't have to shift as often as the other cars do. This helps them keep up in the twisties with the lighter cars, too... because shifting always upsets the car to some degree. So if you don't have to shift, you can push it further.

- Skant
 
I love nurburing with all the road cars with road tyres, and ASM, TSC turned off. I love to feel how the different cars handles different.

With it turned on all the cars handle very much the same, and then all the fun is gone.

Got to love the RUF with ASM and TCS turned of and some crappy road tyres around the ring. Can`t drive with one hand and eat lunch with the other when you drive that car. :)

Almost forgot. And ofcourse manual transmisson.
 
it depends. I am now not using asm as i realized i dont really need it. I keed a tcs of 5g on how powerful my production cars. I set the tcs according to how much I need to get the fastest time on Las Vegas. Matbe I wouldnt need it if my MadCatz Wheel's pedal was accurate. Anyways, I use asm on my race cars because I know the AI wont cut me some slack.
 
ktaylor57
I use TCS anywhere from 2-6, depending on the car. I think I used a setting of 5 on my 787B when running GT World.

No ASM for me. Didn't someone make an acronym for it that tells what it basically does?
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Anti-Steer Mechanism?? I know its meant to be Anti-Spin, but in GT3 and GT4 it just makes steering sluggish and inept. I drove once with it on - cos I forget to turn it off. I did wonder why my RX-8 was handling a bit like an S2000. Now it handles a bit more lively - more fun.

ASM - never going to use it. TCS - of course!! Otherwise you'll never have the realwheels getting grip. And where's the good in that?? Besides, most cars these days have some kind of traction control.
 
I always turn all driving aids off.
Only on cars with >800 HP I set TCS to 2.
 
For racing I always use it, and tune it to my liking.

However, for WRS I take it off.
 
I never use ASM, but usually turn TCS onto 1 or 2 if the car has a lot of torque and I'm using bad tires. Oh, and ASM stands for Active Stability Management.
 
asm is always off. i have tcs on, but only in high powered cars as it can be hard to modulate the accelerator on the ds2.
 
try driving with ur TCS on 6 and ASM Oversteer on 1 but ASM understeer on 0...its quite a good effect. The car gets pulled around the corners therefore giving u a better racing line. Just try it and get back to me with what u think.....keep in mind that u don't have to have the TCS so high, whatever your preference really, just try having ASM Oversteer on 1.
 
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