How much sense would it make to re-release GT5?

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Does a Re-Release of GT5 Makes Sense?

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There's a lot to read because there are a lot points to think about here.

We all know that GT5 is pretty rough around the edges, not quite as dignified as past sequels... even with the constant updating, I'm just not sure it would really be enough to phase out GT5's more glaring issues. I'm not going to bore you all with the usual run down of errors and flaws, but would rather submitt this:

GT5's release puts the franchise in a awkward position, IMO. It's really late into the PS3's life span, with PS4 expected to be released at the end of 2012 (unofficially). There looks to be much concern as to whether GT6 should be released for the remainder of PS3's time or be developed for the next generation console as a launch title...

Now, I think GT5 in its current state is definitely well worth the money. It has proven to at least bare the essentials of a typical Gran Turismo title. However, this doesn't mean that it couldn't use some major improvements and I think it wouldn't be entirely out of the question to consider a re-release, GT5 Spec II instead of a full fledged sequel which should really be saved for PS4 launch.

I bring it up because really the issues are worth it, it was kind of a half-assed release and I'm sure PD knows that there are some pretty bombastic holes in the game. What we ended up with is sort of half PS3 game and half PS2 game with a clunky presentation linking them together. However, I understand PD had to just boot it out of its development hell, BUT if you could get your hands on a more fleshed out copy... would be worth it?

A lot of the issues fixed would probably be with overall design, perhaps offering a smoother GUI with an addition of more A-Spec events, perhaps more refined A.I. - as we've all wanted. I'm not saying all Standard cars would finally have interiors or anything, but more like you'd finally be able to at least change their wheels. Just the small fixes that really pull the game together and make it an accessible, exciting, and interesting game. The game could use some updates in all aspects. Everything from gameplay and CPU A.I., to user options, all the way to just overall presentation.

A re-release could also be a lab for GT6 as well... I know drag racing is something players have wanted since GT2, perhaps GT5 Spec II could incorperate an online version of that and other ideas that have been thrown around at PD HQ that were originally planned for GT5.

Now for those who would rather just have a full fledged GT6 sequel, I also think this could effect future GT projects as much needed launch titles for the upcoming PS4 console. I think one of the biggest mistakes with PS3 is that it didn't have enough well known exclusives at launch, and the absence of GT didn't help. I highly doubt Sony would want to make that same mistake again... so I'm pretty sure GT6 should then be a PS4 title.

But this leaves a pretty awkward gap between now and when PS4 is presumed to be released - even more so if it isn't really due out until sometime in 2013 or even 2014. Is this version of GT really going to hold your interest that long? Or would you pay the money to get a more fleshed out copy without all the annoyances of rough edges?

The sitaution is understandable for a re-release and there is a decent pocket of time to do it without interfering much with other projects. Does it make sense? Should PD go for it???
 
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I wouldn't pay 500 Dkr (80$) for a new release, unless it's no where near full price.
 
Honestly, I would rather pay full price for a "Spec-II" re-release with most bugs sorted out, the content missing from the current game included (GT4 tracks, more tracks, a few dozens more premiums, etc), corrections for realism, graphics, gameplay and physics issues, than buying overpriced DLC (as they do always end up being overpriced).

I would very much welcome that, as long as it provided substantially more new content.
However, I think the genereal public wouldn't. It wouldn't sell millions of copies, that's for sure.
 
Not a bad idea deathesarthe..they could have us download it if we already own the game and then other people who dont would get the spec II copy.. that way no one would be paying extra
 
I agree with akira's second point
though they could use the current gt5 as a test subject. Experimenting with things that could go into gt6 or gt5 spec II
like a online drag racing mode and improved ai
 
GT5 is in the books. There too many problems to be fixed to call it a re-release. We paid our money for a game that has un-excuseable glitches. Box shadows for example. Ya gotta be kidding me. Box shadows? That's bush league. Amateurish. To fix that many problems you might as well call it GT6.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
Honestly, I would rather pay full price for a "Spec-II" re-release with most bugs sorted out, the content missing from the current game included (GT4 tracks, more tracks, a few dozens more premiums, etc), corrections for realism, graphics, gameplay and physics issues, than buying overpriced DLC (as they do always end up being overpriced).
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I would agree with this - on one condition.

I get a discount as I've already paid RRP for GT5 (the crap, incomplete, flawed version), why should I pay another RRP for the same game, this time, one they could be bothered with.

Give me 50% discount on GT5 version 2, and yep I'm in.

However, one thing not mentioned.

In my opinion, Polyphony should wait and see what happens with FORZA 4 comng out later this year. Have they taken advantage of Polyphony's mistake / complacency with GT5 being released with so many issues and problems??

If FORZA has been updated and is now a better game than GT, that's bad news for Polyphony. If, however, the guys making FORZA haven't taken advantage of the situation and they've screwed up as much as Polyphony did with GT5, then that gives more leeway for Polyphony - they got lucky, they got away with it.

See what your main rival / competitor does first, then make your move - to me, that would make more sense.

Especially, as it's likely FORZA 5 would be out before GT6 (judging by the time between major FORZA and GT releases).

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No 2) they improve online connectivity and lag ALOT.
 
Fix the bugs and glitches with patches and continue to offer new tracks, cars, rims, etc. through DLC and it should be enough to hold people over until GT6. I don't think we need a re-release, unless you're talking about an expansion type thing that costs half as much as the game but includes a bunch of new content. Also, converting Standard model cars to Premium would be a good idea too and SHOULD be free.
 
I voted no, I think most of the issues could be fixed via updates if PD chose to listen to the criticisms of GT users on this forum.


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They won't "rerelease" GT5 and they're not going to significantly change the game due to complaints from consumers, particularly from this forum. We are coming up at 6 months from the release date. If significant changes were to be made they would already have been. All we are getting is weekly remakes of races already in career mode. Hoping for DLC? I'm not holding my breath.

If you want a different experience, get another game. Forza 4.
 
This game was delayed too long anyways imo. I would rather have them work on gt6 for the next gen console and have it out on the planned release date than pushing it back, scrambling to make the game playable.
 
Making a re-release of the game is admitting that it's a total failure. That isn't the case at all, knowing that more than 11 million GT5P + GT5 copies have already been sold world wide. And keep in mind that a lot of people are still buying the game and that there are people buying PS3's only because of GT5.

Personnally, i'm happy with the game as it is. Adding FREE downloadable content would be great. Otherwise i'll be looking forward to GT6.
 
Lower the price and call it a special edition and throw in a random stealth car and call it good.
 
Maybe PD can just give away free expansions of GT5, and for those who don't have the game yet can but the new, re-released GT5.
 
I honestly don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of glitches/missing features/lameness of GT5 as-is. I've bought several other racing titles (Grid, NFS, Ferrari Challenge, Midnight Club) and none of them even come close to GT5 in terms of amount of hours of entertainment. There are no glitches that are deal-breakers.

Everything could always be better, but feeling like I got ripped off for an unfinished product in GT5? Not me. As long as the Seasonal Events keep getting updated, maybe toss in a few free DLC cars or something, I'm fine.
 
Superfly503
I honestly don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of glitches/missing features/lameness of GT5 as-is. I've bought several other racing titles (Grid, NFS, Ferrari Challenge, Midnight Club) and none of them even come close to GT5 in terms of amount of hours of entertainment. There are no glitches that are deal-breakers.

Everything could always be better, but feeling like I got ripped off for an unfinished product in GT5? Not me. As long as the Seasonal Events keep getting updated, maybe toss in a few free DLC cars or something, I'm fine.
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Have you played all the other versions of GT and did you get GT5 on release day and play it daily since then??

Then, did you check the various GT forums that detailed all the problems and issues with the version of GT5 that was released - and see how many people were complaining about so many different things??

If you have / did - I think you'd undestand what were talking about..

If you have / did and you don't understand what we're talking about, then there's something wrong there..

WHY - because so many people have agreed on this already.
 
Isn't a new GT5 Spec-II just another name for what could also easily be called GT6?
GT5 is flawed in many aspects but re-releasing it instead of just patching it until it becomes what could be called Spec-II seems a bit irrelevant as it's largely how they decide to name the next GT-game.
They will keep patching it, and hopefully add new content, so eventually it'll probably become GT5 Spec-II without the need to buy an extra disc.
So I think this is largely a question on how you name it, GT7 on the PS4 doesn't sound that bad, no need to reserve the number 6 I reckon.
 
Rico_S
Maybe PD can just give away free expansions of GT5, and for those who don't have the game yet can but the new, re-released GT5.
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This. I think this will only happen if there is true DLC though, which will be free for us but included in a definitive issue with all of the updates thus far for those who don't yet own the game. This makes a lot of sense to me, I don't think PD will make us buy the game again.

Such a reissue will also (hopefully) stand up a lot better against Forza 4 etc.
 
Who expects PS4 to be released at the end of 2012? I certainly don't. I would rather have them patch things in as time goes on than wait for a re-release.
 
Highlandor
Have you played all the other versions of GT and did you get GT5 on release day and play it daily since then??

Then, did you check the various GT forums that detailed all the problems and issues with the version of GT5 that was released - and see how many people were complaining about so many different things??

If you have / did - I think you'd undestand what were talking about..

If you have / did and you don't understand what we're talking about, then there's something wrong there..

WHY - because so many people have agreed on this already.
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your avatar is perfect!
 
BarronGeddon
GT5 is the highest selling PS3 game of ALL TIME.

Over 6 million copies. There is no need for a re-release.

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/02/22/gran-turismo-5-is-already-one-of-the-best-selling-ps3-games-ever/
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Is there any relevance between this meaningless fact and the OP?





Anyways, I don't think they should bother with dedicated rereleases for the game. I do think, however, that future reprints of the game (Greatest Hits, for example) should have all of the patches slipstreamed into the disk.
 
I'd say just put all the effort into GT6 and make it great (continue updating GT5 tho) and release it no later than a year after the PS4 starts selling. then GT6 will be epic.
 
I can't vote for anything that involves charging more money to those of us who got a half finished title for full price in the first place.
 
Superfly503
I honestly don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of glitches/missing features/lameness of GT5 as-is. I've bought several other racing titles (Grid, NFS, Ferrari Challenge, Midnight Club) and none of them even come close to GT5 in terms of amount of hours of entertainment. There are no glitches that are deal-breakers.

Everything could always be better, but feeling like I got ripped off for an unfinished product in GT5? Not me. As long as the Seasonal Events keep getting updated, maybe toss in a few free DLC cars or something, I'm fine.
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That's the point! GT5 looks like an unfinished game full of glitches/missing features only for those who have already played all the previous GT games, and not all of them. Otherwise, it's one of the best, if not the best, racing games out there...
 

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