how to achieve understeer when i get on the gas?

[MrGrado]

Try drive this car before making suggestions on how to tune it Adrenaline. Nothing you have posted in any of the threads about this car has been useful.

 

[Adrenaline]

Try drive this car before making suggestions on how to tune it Adrenaline. Nothing you have posted in any of the threads about this car has been useful.

Are you implying, that this car, is the opposite, in terms of over/understeer than almost every other car in the game? If this is true, then by all means, I'll admit all my blind changes would be wrong. But the OP said himself, I shouldn't need to even know what car it is, to tell him which way to move sliders to induce understeer. What I have suggested, will induce understeer on every other car I've ever driven. So if this car is the exception to the rule, then by all means, I have no issue, saying that my suggested settings will be reversed for some odd reason, on this car, and this car alone.

Is this the stance you're taking? Are you saying this about this car specifically, or do you feel that way in general about all cars? Just so that we're clear on what's being said.

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

Game over ladies and gentlemen...



Just because I think you are in the wrong, does not mean I'm being rude. Simply means we disagree.


A: It's not a fake tune, I'm not pretending you wrote it. I just quoted your tune, and made the changes that will give you the result you're asking for.
B: I don't know the min/max values of that car... luckily for me, I specifically added (parenthesis) next to those values covering that, but you skipped over them, like you complained other people were doing to you previously... that's hypocrisy. It appears as if you don't understand the basic tuning principles of GT5 Tuning, and that's fine, you don't need to, but when you ask other people for help, you don't CONTINUE to tell them they're wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. Every time someone offered you help, you tell them they're wrong, blow them off, and ignore them. This is why you're being so negatively viewed.

In closing, the tune I provided you, should allow you to do, what you ASKED us to give you. So you can cry all that you wish, but you're still mistaken.

you try to make it look like you know what your doing and that im wrong. But you still have yet to prove me wrong. I could easily go out and buy a video recorder and take a video of every single car in my garage and prove that i can full throttle them all but 2 of them. (as i mentioned) but im simply not.

And people that offered to help me. I let them help me, if you look back i only blew off and ignored the people being negitive to them. And if u didn't notice, im only being negitively viewed by the other douchebads in the post... aka you.

Try drive this car before making suggestions on how to tune it Adrenaline. Nothing you have posted in any of the threads about this car has been useful.

and this. i agree with this 100%. Adrenaline, insted of acting like the ass you are. why don't you try doing something useful, and actually make a suggestion to help me and my pescarolo like some of the other nice people in this thread.

you could easily help but yet you still insist on making this fight continue. Why don't you stop and actually help insted of posting random crap comments that have nothing to do with the tune.

Also: if your trying not to be Rude Adrenaline. At least change your wording. Because the way you worded like all of your comments made you look rude. Making this whole thread negative.

And if i didn't know gt5 tuning principles, i wouldn't have a whole garage with cars that don't spin other than the 2 im working on at the moment. (now im bragging)

 

[Adrenaline]

and this. i agree with this 100%. Adrenaline, insted of acting like the ass you are. why don't you try doing something useful, and actually make a suggestion to help me and my pescarolo like some of the other nice people in this thread.

well some of this isnt actually needed...
the track, um multiple tracks, its a problem not a turn specific
-this is a general problem that happens on cars so u really dont need to know what type of car it is.
-tires shouldnt matter because again its a general problem, hard or soft tires, if the cars back end is slipping its slipping
-spring rates are spring rates, if softer frost harder rear creates oversteer than it wont matter if its 5/10 or 10/15 oversteer is oversteer its the amount of it
-the list goes on XD roflmao XD

Make up your mind, you don't get to bounce back and forth, to try jump on Grado's side, as if that helps your case.

First you tell me, I don't even need to know what car you're working on, to help you induce understeer. Now you're telling me, I can't even offer adjustments unless I drive and test the car myself? Awfully convenient, don't you think?

And people that offered to help me. I let them help me, if you look back i only blew off and ignored the people being negitive to them. And if u didn't notice, im only being negitively viewed by the other douchebads in the post... aka you.

False.
Robrabbitman: Offered you this:
turn initial torque and the acceleration sensitivity on the LSD down a bit, or add some positive rear toe.

You responded with this:
there already pretty low and toe is high

Ok, so you ignore him, fine.

Next? XDesperado67 offers this:
Throttle control, learn it, use it.
You respond with:
your wrong if u think you need throttle control. **EVERY SINGLE CAR IN MY GARAGE** i can nail the throttle at anypoint in a corner at any speed, and not have the car spin.

Okay, a big middle finger to XDes I guess.

Grado says:
There's something wrong with this car.
You ignore him and tell him that you want us to fix it anyways.

That's when:
DigitalBaka, Trackripper, Krenkeme, & Smitty jumped in... To which you responded with:
If you people trying to critisize me about all my cars not slidding and why do i need your help. Then you obviously didnt read this correctly.


No where along the way, have you respected ANYONE's opinion. You can battle words with me all you want, call me names. I'm not the one offended nor effected by your stubborn ways. I've earned and deserve any negativity towards me, but when you're rude and disrespectful to everyone else, then you're going to run into far more problems than word games with me.

If you want to pretend my suggestions along the way have not been to your benefit, and that everyone elses were, by all means, I dare you. I'll go through the entire thread again, and quote how everyone said and recommend the same direction of adjustments I did, that you seem to call wrong, while theirs are right?

You're no longer arguing about the car in question, you just want to argue against me, by any means necessary. That won't get you anywhere.

I asked Grado a genuine question, I'll wait for his response, or anyone else with knowledge on the subject at hand.

 

[ACSR421]

Well after reading all this nonsense the people who tried to help were slammed and told that they were wrong. Now you say the suggestions are helping?

Take my advice DSUjoeDirte9 and reread the AUP as many times as it takes until you can recite it at full throttle coming out of a corner.

 

[Adrenaline]

Turns out I have this car sitting in my garage with zero miles on it. What track would be of most interest.to.run.some laps. This is all Online I assume? Although the OPs garage claims makes more sense if it's all offline. Also what aids and settings are you using, they make quite a difference. If it turns out you're using SRF I'm going to laugh hysterically.

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

Well after reading all this nonsense the people who tried to help were slammed and told that they were wrong. Now you say the suggestions are helping?

Take my advice DSUjoeDirte9 and reread the AUP as many times as it takes until you can recite it at full throttle coming out of a corner.

you didn't read the post's right then. as i slammed no one that offered me good help. only slammed those who tried to slam me.

Make up your mind, you don't get to bounce back and forth, to try jump on Grado's side, as if that helps your case.

First you tell me, I don't even need to know what car you're working on, to help you induce understeer. Now you're telling me, I can't even offer adjustments unless I drive and test the car myself? Awfully convenient, don't you think?

Im just agreeing with him because hes right. Trying to make me look negative isn't going to help this car get tuning. So post something possitive. and i never said that because u havent driven the car u cant help. that was just help and i actually disagree with that.

False.
Robrabbitman: Offered you this:
turn initial torque and the acceleration sensitivity on the LSD down a bit, or add some positive rear toe.

You responded with this:
there already pretty low and toe is high

i was looking for a response back to my comment toward him. Was looking for him to possibly suggest something else but no response.

Next? XDesperado67 offers this:
Throttle control, learn it, use it.
You respond with:
your wrong if u think you need throttle control. **EVERY SINGLE CAR IN MY GARAGE** i can nail the throttle at anypoint in a corner at any speed, and not have the car spin.

i told in my post not to tell me to use throttle control as its not needed and yet he posted that.. So not bashing. He bashed me with a smart remark in my opinion.

Grado says:
There's something wrong with this car.
You ignore him and tell him that you want us to fix it anyways.

i didn't ignore him. and really the comment itself didn't help so i couldnt have said anything possitive or negative to it. i just told him to try my tune. as it's pretty good at handeling although it still slips more than i personally like.

That's when:
DigitalBaka, Trackripper, Krenkeme, & Smitty jumped in... To which you responded with:
If you people trying to critisize me about all my cars not slidding and why do i need your help. Then you obviously didnt read this correctly.

these people made comments that were wrong entirely. DigitalBaka made a smart comment about me being driving god which i never said i was. And i aactually didn't even say i was good, all i said was all my cars control good and don't spin.

and Krenkeme, idk were he got it but he assusmed my pescarolo hybride was perfect when never did i state that this car was perfect. I clearly said my other cars don't spin. (i didn't even say my other cars were tuned amazingly or perfect, just that they don't spin)

Then the others jumped in and made it worse with there own smart comments. So if they critisize me. im obviously going to talk back. Thiis is earth and were all only human what do u expect? World peace?

Want me to clear anything else up? Because ill be pleased to do so.


And if your going to help.. then thank you very much. Hopefully you can have a solution to this car.

If your going to test the way i drive it. Do this:
-No turbo
-No spoiler upgrade
-No chasis re-enforcement
-Racing Hard Tires

Tcs:1 - yes not even traction control CAN CONTROL THE MADNESS
Abs:1
Turning Sensitivity:7

and as far as tracks go. um tracks i notice this happen a lot on ill go ahead and just mention a few bad ones imo.
-Madrid full
-Grand Valley - Not so much anymore but the first turn used to get me real bad and sometimes the last.
-2009 Sarthe - Not so much here but sometimes comming out of chicanes.

Try Full throttle too. lol

 

[Adrenaline]

You can continue with the high school drama, or docus on my second post. I'm driving it at Deep forest as we speak, the default setup with no tire wear will only run low 1'00. But if theres a track that tests squirrela, this is it. I'll get to your tune in a few once you respond with something constructive.

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

You can continue with the high school drama, or docus on my second post. I'm driving it at Deep forest as we speak, the default setup with no tire wear will only run 59's. But if theres a track that tests squirrela, this is it. I'll get to your tune in a few once you respond with something constructive.

lol i actualy have been trying to end high school drama for a while. But people keep posting negative stuff making it hard.

in terms of responding to your second post though the post above your's just now at the bottem tells you what i drive in.

In terms of constructive ill try the track myself to tell you what types of times i get and any issues im having there.

Also ill now start responding to some of the comments tryint to help now that the dumb drama is over.

 

[Adrenaline]

GVS is the only track I enjoy. Lap times?
Racing Hards, 950hp... with a car that has negative rake forced into it. I'm going to be honest... what you're asking for is probably impossible. Get me a lap time for GVS and I'll show you why throttle xontrol is the right answer.

 

[MrGrado]

Are you implying, that this car, is the opposite, in terms of over/understeer than almost every other car in the game? If this is true, then by all means, I'll admit all my blind changes would be wrong. But the OP said himself, I shouldn't need to even know what car it is, to tell him which way to move sliders to induce understeer. What I have suggested, will induce understeer on every other car I've ever driven. So if this car is the exception to the rule, then by all means, I have no issue, saying that my suggested settings will be reversed for some odd reason, on this car, and this car alone.

Is this the stance you're taking? Are you saying this about this car specifically, or do you feel that way in general about all cars? Just so that we're clear on what's being said.

This car specifically is very difficult to tune, I think there is something abnormally wrong with it, I have tried every possible combination of extreme setting to get rid of the awful oversteer. In the end I have tried all kinds of weird combinations of camber/anti roll/ springs/dampers to try find something that works alright for this car.

 

[Adrenaline]

Well, I just drove your tune, his tune and threw one together for myself. My best lap at GVS so far is a 1.40.008 with my tune. The car is just bad on race hards, not enough grip, tends to understeer then snap oversteer and fish tails like mad. No enjoyment whatsoever.

 

[dr_slump]

-tires shouldnt matter because again its a general problem, hard or soft tires, if the cars back end is slipping its slipping

Wrong, they do matter.

-spring rates are spring rates, if softer frost harder rear creates oversteer than it wont matter if its 5/10 or 10/15 oversteer is oversteer its the amount of it

Wrong, it does matter.

LSD 16/10/10

Accel 5 as already suggested by Adrenaline........

Ride height 5/-21

Not sure why you show such a big ignorance towards Adrenaline, but your ride height is definitely wrong. And I'm not even talking about the rear height.....

IF YOU THINK THE CAMBER OR TOE IS INSANE THATS THE AMOUNT IT TAKES TO CONTROL THE CAR TO MY DRIVING STYLE, THE CAMBER IS SET SO THAT THE TIRES DON'T SQUEAL WHICH IS RIGHT AND THE TOE IS TO CONTROL THE CAR

Camber 02.3/ 2.2
Toe -0.08/ 0.25

I see what you think about your camber settings, but I think the number for the rear camber is a bit too high.

DONT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THESE LINES, THEY WONT CHANGE NORE WILL THEY EVER

No Spoiler

Aero 60 / 85

Why?

The car already has a wing and the aftermarket one looks exactly the same and is also adjustable, just in a bigger range. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5285180#post5285180

this happens on any track with a turn you take from about (medium 3rd gear - medium-high 4th). If you try the tune your know what speeds those are but i do not atm because i am currently not near my ps3.

Well, since the speeds in 3rd and 4th gear are relatively high, the car would surely profitate from a wing as suggested above. Just saying.....

Also setting front springs at minimum and back at maximum creates oversteer not understeer.

RUF CTR Yellowbird '87

Ok, here's my tune.
The goal was to make it as fast and manageable as possible.
The result is an easy ( it's a Yellowbird!) car to drive and the laptimes are just unbelievable low.
Enjoy!

You need all tuning parts!

Suspension
- Ride Height : -31/-25
- Spring Rate : 11.6/14.3
- Dampers (Extension) : 6/7
- Dampers (Compression) : 5/6
- Anti-Roll Bars : 7/4

Added note:
- For online/very bumpy track: Try a bit a lower front spring rate and/or front compression 4.

Explain - simple, isn't it?
(btw, this above is for a fully modified Yellowbird)

Which would not let me "SMASH the gass like a mindless ape" like u said. It would make me "SPINOUT like a mindless idiot".

Switch ape with idiot and we're getting closer.

lol nice try but fail

Yeah, irony as it's best is always entertaining.

nuff said, don't try to make comeback or even to comment. You have already lost.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5285180#post5285180Yes, he probably lost the willingness to help you.

 

[Ronald6]

@dr_slump: +1,
Well done sir.

 

[Onboy123]

Hmm…I sense that Doc hasn't had much chance to swear in quite a while…on a bit of a roll, aren't ya mate?

Anyway…though I'll probably just be wasting time, bandwidth and energy by even trying to make a suggestion, I'd change the ride height to either 0/0, or 0-5/max.

 

[dr_slump]

This car specifically is very difficult to tune, I think there is something abnormally wrong with it, I have tried every possible combination of extreme setting to get rid of the awful oversteer. In the end I have tried all kinds of weird combinations of camber/anti roll/ springs/dampers to try find something that works alright for this car.

The funny thing is, it's the exact opposite for me.
My Hybrid is fully modified and I had a hard time with getting rid of the understeer. I'm happy with the end result, the car is relatively easy to drive and just slightly understeers more than other LMP cars .

In my eyes 905, R92, R89, 908, XJR-9, C9, etc are harder to drive. My opinion.....

Hmm…I sense that Doc hasn't had much chance to swear in quite a while…on a bit of a roll, aren't ya mate?

Did I swear? Really?
I'm actually very calm atm.

 

[Onboy123]

Did I swear? Really?

Nope, but that's not what I mean. I'm just saying, it seems like you've not had a chance to get shouty in a while, that's all.

Edit: Stop ninja-editing bits in, goddammit, it makes things harder on my end. Very calm atm, eh? I always see you as a shouty swiss dude, for some reason.

Also, I'm with you Doc on the Hybride's drive, the Hybride has always been a car that understeered (or failed to steer) in my hands, regardless of the pace it was going.

 

[dr_slump]

Nope, but that's not what I mean. I'm just saying, it seems like you've not had a chance to get shouty in a while, that's all.

Edit: Stop ninja-editing bits in, goddammit, it makes things harder on my end. Very calm atm, eh? I always see you as a shouty swiss dude, for some reason.

You think my post was too harsh?

 

[Ronald6]

Dr_slump = muppets Swedish chef. Lol

 

[Onboy123]

You think my post was too harsh?

Not at all, it's just my impression of you. Also, 'nuff banter, we'll talk our crap the next time we drag.

 

[dr_slump]

Dr_slump = muppets Swedish chef. Lol

Ahh you americans and your swedish......

I really wonder why 50% of all americans keep calling me swedish.... (fyi, I'm not swedish and I speak no swedish.)

If im doing it wrong or anything plz tell me, i just want this car to stop oversteering when i get on the gas.

Ok, look:

**don't tell me that full throttle makes the car oversteer because thats total BS.

👎 🤬 Pretty much everything said.

All my cars except this 1 i can nail on the gas and they wont spin out what so ever**

What for cars do you have? A bunch of golfs and maybe a scirroco?
Buy a yellowbird or similar.

Geez, that's amusing.

 

[moparisgod]

This has made my waiting for my flight more enjoyable. Amazing backtracking, two sidedness, asking for help and saying it's crap when it is available, and more.

I can't stop reading...what will happen next?

One question, if SRF used on this tune? That would thicken the plot of this tail.

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

People above this post and after my last. Stop trying to be negative. If you didn't read we all ended this fight. So stop trying to bring it up again.

LONG POST BE AFRAID

GVS is the only track I enjoy. Lap times?
Racing Hards, 950hp... with a car that has negative rake forced into it. I'm going to be honest... what you're asking for is probably impossible. Get me a lap time for GVS and I'll show you why throttle xontrol is the right answer.

Grand Valley Is actually my usual test course and is one of the courses i can full throttle every turn.
My Best lap time there is a 1:38.3(something) in a pescarolo hybride 2005 XD

Well, I just drove your tune, his tune and threw one together for myself. My best lap at GVS so far is a 1.40.008 with my tune. The car is just bad on race hards, not enough grip, tends to understeer then snap oversteer and fish tails like mad. No enjoyment whatsoever.

Really? it snaps on this course? This is the course were i have like the least amount of problems.
I can fully throttle like every turn on this course before I did what i have posted bellow.
_________________________________________________________________________________________
And for responding with something constructive i do have some information.

Ok i obviously suck at Deep forest because your running the default time like 4 seconds faster than me.

But here are times anyway.

*My Tune - 1:04.900 - 1:05.500 = I don't like it but had to use throttle control to even drive the track.
*Default - 1:05.500 - 1:07.000 = very un-consistant didnt like.

Lower the front or raise the rear, turn initial torque and the acceleration sensitivity on the LSD down a bit, or add some positive rear toe.

Tried this and here are results

*Default - 1:04.700 - 1.05.300 - not much tire spin.
-LSD 5/5/15
*My Tune - 1:04.100 - 1:04-500 - Absolutely zero tire spin or back end slipping (Full throttle no spin)

The LSD definately helped, when i get home and test on other tracks but deep forest/gran valley has no tire spin or spin out problems
_________________________________________________________________________________________
In terms of more feedback i have more info. The LSD fixed my spin problems but now the car understeers, this can be fixed easily im sure and im goign to start working on it right now.

Also Someone explain how LSD works because ive been told by a million tuners and sites and yet im still missing something. lol
_________________________________________________________________________________________
Im working a lot to get a tune that a lot of people like. Although this post has just shown fighting, the fighting is over and im now can actually focus on some of the people and there suggestions. As said by some major tuner, they said something about the car themself along the lines of this: "This car is very difficult to tune and a lot of people are looking for one, Im not proud of my own tune for it and have planned or re-doing it".

Through help with this thread i can hopefully get a tune that will solve a lot of peoples problems as now i have a pescarolo hybride that i can full throttle with no spin. my only problem is it needs a few tweaks here and there. Ill try to post later about how thats going and any new problems i face.

I can't do more tuning and test driving till probably around 4:00pm then ill be home and i can test again. Until then, im not sure were to go from here. Because with the tire spin and random backlashing gone i can now tune to car more specificaly insted of addressing the major issues and can focus on small issues.

Ill get back to you all on my problems when i get home and can test drive the car again.

What for cars do you have? A bunch of golfs and maybe a scirroco?
Buy a yellowbird or similar.

Geez, that's amusing.

um, a ton of other high speed cars i have don't spin.
-Zonda R
-Minolta
-Sauber c9
-787b
-pescarolo hybride (at its current condition before i left for work it doesn't spin)
-Sc430 SuperGt (cant remember what its called but its light blue and white)
-350z Super Gt
-Nsx super gt
-Yellowhat Supra

The list goes on.

ironically i have no Golf.... lol

 

[Adrenaline]

Grand Valley Is actually my usual test course and is one of the courses i can full throttle every turn.
My Best lap time there is a 1:38.3(something) in a pescarolo hybride 2005 XD

Okay... So either D1G driver, or SRF. I'm gunna go out on a limb here and say... aahhhhh you're probably a D1G driver. Congrats!

So now that I've already jumped to conclusions I want to clear a few things up.

When you ran this 1:38, you used TCS @ 1 and NO OTHER AIDS? Skid Recovery Force? Were you ONLINE or OFFLINE? Grip reduction set to REAL or LOW?
Were you by yourself, or was this in a race with draft?
Are you sure you ran a 1:38 or are you just going off of memory?

Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

As for Deep Forest, I was running Softs, so you can ignore those lap times, I was just getting a feel for the car while I waited for you to get back with some specifics.

 

[dr_slump]

People above this post and after my last. Stop trying to be negative. If you didn't read we all ended this fight. So stop trying to bring it up again.

Post 43 wasn't derogatory or offensive. Post 51 maybe a little, but cmon!
__________________________

In terms of more feedback i have more info. The LSD fixed my spin problems but now the car understeers, this can be fixed easily im sure and im goign to start working on it right now.

Hardly.....

I can't do more tuning and test driving till probably around 4:00pm then ill be home and i can test again. Until then, im not sure were to go from here. Because with the tire spin and random backlashing gone i can now tune to car more specificaly insted of addressing the major issues and can focus on small issues.

The understeer is a small issue?

um, a ton of other high speed cars i have don't spin.
-Zonda R
-Minolta
-Sauber c9
-787b
-pescarolo hybride (at its current condition before i left for work it doesn't spin)
-Sc430 SuperGt (cant remember what its called but its light blue and white)
-350z Super Gt
-Nsx super gt
-Yellowhat Supra

The list goes on.

ironically i have no Golf.... lol

Why am I not surprised......

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

Okay... So either D1G driver, or SRF. I'm gunna go out on a limb here and say... aahhhhh you're probably a D1G driver. Congrats!

So now that I've already jumped to conclusions I want to clear a few things up.

When you ran this 1:38, you used TCS @ 1 and NO OTHER AIDS? Skid Recovery Force? Were you ONLINE or OFFLINE? Grip reduction set to REAL or LOW?
Were you by yourself, or was this in a race with draft?
Are you sure you ran a 1:38 or are you just going off of memory?

Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

As for Deep Forest, I was running Softs, so you can ignore those lap times, I was just getting a feel for the car while I waited for you to get back with some specifics.

Not sure what a D1G driver is but it sounds good. I do NOT use SRF though.

plz tell me what D1G driver is. it sounds good.

When i ran that 1:38 i had the following setting

TCS:1
ABS:1
Racing Hard tires
Sterering Sensitivity 7

And i honestly cant remember what grip reduction.
-I just ran again with it off and on and i pulled off 2 fast 1:39's (1.39.301 with low and 1:39.537 with high)

I was by myself in timetrial mode (offline obv) and in terms of 1:38 its not unfamilar for this to happen to me and my brother. I have ran a 1:38 in a minolta in past and a pescarolo hybride while he has done it in a sauber c9.

 

[praiano63]

Not sure what a D1G driver is but it sounds good. I do NOT use SRF though.

plz tell me what D1G driver is. it sounds good.

When i ran that 1:38 i had the following setting

TCS:1
ABS:1
Racing Hard tires
Sterering Sensitivity 7

And i honestly cant remember what grip reduction.
-I just ran again with it off and on and i pulled off 2 fast 1:39's (1.39.301 with low and 1:39.537 with high)

I was by myself in timetrial mode (offline obv) and in terms of 1:38 its not unfamilar for this to happen to me and my brother. I have ran a 1:38 in a minolta in past and a pescarolo hybride while he has done it in a sauber c9.

This is a D1G or GTP division 1 Gold. Replay from Mr E.T .GTP_Mike_Peperni

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

This is a D1G or GTP division 1 Gold. Replay from Mr E.T .GTP_Mike_Peperni

thanks for the video dude but is there by chance like a description that anyone has of what a D1G driver is. like a definition?

 

[CSLACR]

Just because I think you are in the wrong, does not mean I'm being rude. Simply means we disagree.

DSUjoeDirte9
Ballast: 200KG at -50

Aero: Minimum / 85

LSD 5/5/10

Ride height -15(or as low as it will go)/+30(or as high as it will go)
Spring Minimum/Maximum
Extension 1/1
Compression 1/10
Anti-Roll 1/7

Camber 0.00/ 4.0
Toe -0.25/ 0.40

Brakes 7/3


A: It's not a fake tune, I'm not pretending you wrote it. I just quoted your tune, and made the changes that will give you the result you're asking for.
B: I don't know the min/max values of that car... luckily for me, I specifically added (parenthesis) next to those values covering that, but you skipped over them, like you complained other people were doing to you previously... that's hypocrisy. It appears as if you don't understand the basic tuning principles of GT5 Tuning, and that's fine, you don't need to, but when you ask other people for help, you don't CONTINUE to tell them they're wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. Every time someone offered you help, you tell them they're wrong, blow them off, and ignore them. This is why you're being so negatively viewed.

In closing, the tune I provided you, should allow you to do, what you ASKED us to give you. So you can cry all that you wish, but you're still mistaken.

Are you implying, that this car, is the opposite, in terms of over/understeer than almost every other car in the game? If this is true, then by all means, I'll admit all my blind changes would be wrong. But the OP said himself, I shouldn't need to even know what car it is, to tell him which way to move sliders to induce understeer. What I have suggested, will induce understeer on every other car I've ever driven. So if this car is the exception to the rule, then by all means, I have no issue, saying that my suggested settings will be reversed for some odd reason, on this car, and this car alone.

Is this the stance you're taking? Are you saying this about this car specifically, or do you feel that way in general about all cars? Just so that we're clear on what's being said.

What he said.

thanks for the video dude but is there by chance like a description that anyone has of what a D1G driver is. like a definition?

Division 1 Gold.

 

[DigitalBaka]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=117

Division 1 Gold drivers in the WRS....the fastest drivers on GTP and, in most all cases, the world as far as GT5 is concerned. Many of them are or have been in competition for the top spots in GT Academy and several have made it to the final rounds. It is a pretty exclusive club of elite drivers.

EDIT: Tree'd!