Try drive this car before making suggestions on how to tune it Adrenaline. Nothing you have posted in any of the threads about this car has been useful.
Game over ladies and gentlemen...
Just because I think you are in the wrong, does not mean I'm being rude. Simply means we disagree.
A: It's not a fake tune, I'm not pretending you wrote it. I just quoted your tune, and made the changes that will give you the result you're asking for.
B: I don't know the min/max values of that car... luckily for me, I specifically added (parenthesis) next to those values covering that, but you skipped over them, like you complained other people were doing to you previously... that's hypocrisy. It appears as if you don't understand the basic tuning principles of GT5 Tuning, and that's fine, you don't need to, but when you ask other people for help, you don't CONTINUE to tell them they're wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. Every time someone offered you help, you tell them they're wrong, blow them off, and ignore them. This is why you're being so negatively viewed.
In closing, the tune I provided you, should allow you to do, what you ASKED us to give you. So you can cry all that you wish, but you're still mistaken.
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Try drive this car before making suggestions on how to tune it Adrenaline. Nothing you have posted in any of the threads about this car has been useful.
and this. i agree with this 100%. Adrenaline, insted of acting like the ass you are. why don't you try doing something useful, and actually make a suggestion to help me and my pescarolo like some of the other nice people in this thread.
well some of this isnt actually needed...
the track, um multiple tracks, its a problem not a turn specific
-this is a general problem that happens on cars so u really dont need to know what type of car it is.
-tires shouldnt matter because again its a general problem, hard or soft tires, if the cars back end is slipping its slipping
-spring rates are spring rates, if softer frost harder rear creates oversteer than it wont matter if its 5/10 or 10/15 oversteer is oversteer its the amount of it
-the list goes on XD roflmao XD
And people that offered to help me. I let them help me, if you look back i only blew off and ignored the people being negitive to them. And if u didn't notice, im only being negitively viewed by the other douchebads in the post... aka you.
Well after reading all this nonsense the people who tried to help were slammed and told that they were wrong. Now you say the suggestions are helping?
Take my advice DSUjoeDirte9 and reread the AUP as many times as it takes until you can recite it at full throttle coming out of a corner.
Make up your mind, you don't get to bounce back and forth, to try jump on Grado's side, as if that helps your case.
First you tell me, I don't even need to know what car you're working on, to help you induce understeer. Now you're telling me, I can't even offer adjustments unless I drive and test the car myself? Awfully convenient, don't you think?
i was looking for a response back to my comment toward him. Was looking for him to possibly suggest something else but no response.False.
Robrabbitman: Offered you this:
turn initial torque and the acceleration sensitivity on the LSD down a bit, or add some positive rear toe.
You responded with this:
there already pretty low and toe is high
Next? XDesperado67 offers this:
Throttle control, learn it, use it.
You respond with:
your wrong if u think you need throttle control. **EVERY SINGLE CAR IN MY GARAGE** i can nail the throttle at anypoint in a corner at any speed, and not have the car spin.
Grado says:
There's something wrong with this car.
You ignore him and tell him that you want us to fix it anyways.
That's when:
DigitalBaka, Trackripper, Krenkeme, & Smitty jumped in... To which you responded with:
If you people trying to critisize me about all my cars not slidding and why do i need your help. Then you obviously didnt read this correctly.
You can continue with the high school drama, or docus on my second post. I'm driving it at Deep forest as we speak, the default setup with no tire wear will only run 59's. But if theres a track that tests squirrela, this is it. I'll get to your tune in a few once you respond with something constructive.
Are you implying, that this car, is the opposite, in terms of over/understeer than almost every other car in the game? If this is true, then by all means, I'll admit all my blind changes would be wrong. But the OP said himself, I shouldn't need to even know what car it is, to tell him which way to move sliders to induce understeer. What I have suggested, will induce understeer on every other car I've ever driven. So if this car is the exception to the rule, then by all means, I have no issue, saying that my suggested settings will be reversed for some odd reason, on this car, and this car alone.
Is this the stance you're taking? Are you saying this about this car specifically, or do you feel that way in general about all cars? Just so that we're clear on what's being said.
Wrong, they do matter.-tires shouldnt matter because again its a general problem, hard or soft tires, if the cars back end is slipping its slipping
Wrong, it does matter.-spring rates are spring rates, if softer frost harder rear creates oversteer than it wont matter if its 5/10 or 10/15 oversteer is oversteer its the amount of it
Accel 5 as already suggested by Adrenaline........LSD 16/10/10
Not sure why you show such a big ignorance towards Adrenaline, but your ride height is definitely wrong. And I'm not even talking about the rear height.....Ride height 5/-21
I see what you think about your camber settings, but I think the number for the rear camber is a bit too high.Camber 02.3/ 2.2IF YOU THINK THE CAMBER OR TOE IS INSANE THATS THE AMOUNT IT TAKES TO CONTROL THE CAR TO MY DRIVING STYLE, THE CAMBER IS SET SO THAT THE TIRES DON'T SQUEAL WHICH IS RIGHT AND THE TOE IS TO CONTROL THE CAR
Toe -0.08/ 0.25
DONT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THESE LINES, THEY WONT CHANGE NORE WILL THEY EVER
No Spoiler
Why?Aero 60 / 85
Well, since the speeds in 3rd and 4th gear are relatively high, the car would surely profitate from a wing as suggested above. Just saying.....this happens on any track with a turn you take from about (medium 3rd gear - medium-high 4th). If you try the tune your know what speeds those are but i do not atm because i am currently not near my ps3.
Also setting front springs at minimum and back at maximum creates oversteer not understeer.
Explain - simple, isn't it?RUF CTR Yellowbird '87
Ok, here's my tune.
The goal was to make it as fast and manageable as possible.
The result is an easy (it's a Yellowbird!) car to drive and the laptimes are just unbelievable low.
Enjoy!
You need all tuning parts!
Suspension
- Ride Height : -31/-25
- Spring Rate : 11.6/14.3
- Dampers (Extension) : 6/7
- Dampers (Compression) : 5/6
- Anti-Roll Bars : 7/4
Added note:
- For online/very bumpy track: Try a bit a lower front spring rate and/or front compression 4.
Switch ape with idiot and we're getting closer.Which would not let me "SMASH the gass like a mindless ape" like u said. It would make me "SPINOUT like a mindless idiot".
lol nice try but fail
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5285180#post5285180Yes, he probably lost the willingness to help you.nuff said, don't try to make comeback or even to comment. You have already lost.
The funny thing is, it's the exact opposite for me.This car specifically is very difficult to tune, I think there is something abnormally wrong with it, I have tried every possible combination of extreme setting to get rid of the awful oversteer. In the end I have tried all kinds of weird combinations of camber/anti roll/ springs/dampers to try find something that works alright for this car.
Did I swear? Really?Hmm…I sense that Doc hasn't had much chance to swear in quite a while…on a bit of a roll, aren't ya mate?
Did I swear? Really?
You think my post was too harsh?Nope, but that's not what I mean.I'm just saying, it seems like you've not had a chance to get shouty in a while, that's all.
Edit: Stop ninja-editing bits in, goddammit, it makes things harder on my end.Very calm atm, eh? I always see you as a shouty swiss dude, for some reason.
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You think my post was too harsh?
Ahh you americans and your swedish......Dr_slump = muppets Swedish chef. Lol
Ok, look:If im doing it wrong or anything plz tell me, i just want this car to stop oversteering when i get on the gas.
**don't tell me that full throttle makes the car oversteer because thats total BS.
All my cars except this 1 i can nail on the gas and they wont spin out what so ever**
GVS is the only track I enjoy. Lap times?
Racing Hards, 950hp... with a car that has negative rake forced into it. I'm going to be honest... what you're asking for is probably impossible. Get me a lap time for GVS and I'll show you why throttle xontrol is the right answer.
Well, I just drove your tune, his tune and threw one together for myself. My best lap at GVS so far is a 1.40.008 with my tune. The car is just bad on race hards, not enough grip, tends to understeer then snap oversteer and fish tails like mad. No enjoyment whatsoever.
Tried this and here are resultsLower the front or raise the rear, turn initial torque and the acceleration sensitivity on the LSD down a bit, or add some positive rear toe.
What for cars do you have? A bunch of golfs and maybe a scirroco?
Buy a yellowbird or similar.
Geez, that's amusing.
Grand Valley Is actually my usual test course and is one of the courses i can full throttle every turn.
My Best lap time there is a 1:38.3(something) in a pescarolo hybride 2005 XD
Post 43 wasn't derogatory or offensive. Post 51 maybe a little, but cmon!People above this post and after my last. Stop trying to be negative. If you didn't read we all ended this fight. So stop trying to bring it up again.
Hardly.....In terms of more feedback i have more info. The LSD fixed my spin problems but now the car understeers, this can be fixed easily im sure and im goign to start working on it right now.
The understeer is a small issue?I can't do more tuning and test driving till probably around 4:00pm then ill be home and i can test again. Until then, im not sure were to go from here. Because with the tire spin and random backlashing gone i can now tune to car more specificaly insted of addressing the major issues and can focus on small issues.
Why am I not surprised......um, a ton of other high speed cars i have don't spin.
-Zonda R
-Minolta
-Sauber c9
-787b
-pescarolo hybride (at its current condition before i left for work it doesn't spin)
-Sc430 SuperGt (cant remember what its called but its light blue and white)
-350z Super Gt
-Nsx super gt
-Yellowhat Supra
The list goes on.
ironically i have no Golf.... lol
Okay... So either D1G driver, or SRF. I'm gunna go out on a limb here and say... aahhhhh you're probably a D1G driver. Congrats!
So now that I've already jumped to conclusions I want to clear a few things up.
When you ran this 1:38, you used TCS @ 1 and NO OTHER AIDS? Skid Recovery Force? Were you ONLINE or OFFLINE? Grip reduction set to REAL or LOW?
Were you by yourself, or was this in a race with draft?
Are you sure you ran a 1:38 or are you just going off of memory?
Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.
As for Deep Forest, I was running Softs, so you can ignore those lap times, I was just getting a feel for the car while I waited for you to get back with some specifics.
Not sure what a D1G driver is but it sounds good. I do NOT use SRF though.
plz tell me what D1G driver is. it sounds good.
When i ran that 1:38 i had the following setting
TCS:1
ABS:1
Racing Hard tires
Sterering Sensitivity 7
And i honestly cant remember what grip reduction.
-I just ran again with it off and on and i pulled off 2 fast 1:39's (1.39.301 with low and 1:39.537 with high)
I was by myself in timetrial mode (offline obv) and in terms of 1:38 its not unfamilar for this to happen to me and my brother. I have ran a 1:38 in a minolta in past and a pescarolo hybride while he has done it in a sauber c9.
This is a D1G or GTP division 1 Gold. Replay from Mr E.T .GTP_Mike_Peperni
Just because I think you are in the wrong, does not mean I'm being rude. Simply means we disagree.
DSUjoeDirte9
Ballast: 200KG at -50
Aero: Minimum / 85
LSD 5/5/10
Ride height -15(or as low as it will go)/+30(or as high as it will go)
Spring Minimum/Maximum
Extension 1/1
Compression 1/10
Anti-Roll 1/7
Camber 0.00/ 4.0
Toe -0.25/ 0.40
Brakes 7/3
A: It's not a fake tune, I'm not pretending you wrote it. I just quoted your tune, and made the changes that will give you the result you're asking for.
B: I don't know the min/max values of that car... luckily for me, I specifically added (parenthesis) next to those values covering that, but you skipped over them, like you complained other people were doing to you previously... that's hypocrisy. It appears as if you don't understand the basic tuning principles of GT5 Tuning, and that's fine, you don't need to, but when you ask other people for help, you don't CONTINUE to tell them they're wrong when you don't know what you're talking about. Every time someone offered you help, you tell them they're wrong, blow them off, and ignore them. This is why you're being so negatively viewed.
In closing, the tune I provided you, should allow you to do, what you ASKED us to give you. So you can cry all that you wish, but you're still mistaken.
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What he said.Are you implying, that this car, is the opposite, in terms of over/understeer than almost every other car in the game? If this is true, then by all means, I'll admit all my blind changes would be wrong. But the OP said himself, I shouldn't need to even know what car it is, to tell him which way to move sliders to induce understeer. What I have suggested, will induce understeer on every other car I've ever driven. So if this car is the exception to the rule, then by all means, I have no issue, saying that my suggested settings will be reversed for some odd reason, on this car, and this car alone.
Is this the stance you're taking? Are you saying this about this car specifically, or do you feel that way in general about all cars? Just so that we're clear on what's being said.
Division 1 Gold.thanks for the video dude but is there by chance like a description that anyone has of what a D1G driver is. like a definition?