Hulk SMASH!

[Anderton Prime]

So good. Everything it needed to be. I wished I was the Hulk after seeing this movie!

The cast was great, which was good because I was afraid they might completely ruin the movie, thus hammering the final nail into the Hulk's onscreen legacy's coffin (first poor Lou Ferrigno screwed it up, then someone tols someone else that Ang Lee would be an excellent choice to direct the upcoming Hulk movie, a conversation which most likely took place while one or both dialoguers were inebriated or stoned or both). But Tim Roth, whom I find annoying as of late, is actually a unique approach to a superhero villain here. William Hurt, who I also hate, convinced me to want to smash his face in, which means he was immensely successful in portraying his slimeball character, The General. Liv Tyler, who I absolutely loathe (mainly because her one and only talent seems to be to make herself appear as though she a) has just finished crying, b) is in the process of crying, or c) is about to cry) actually didn't bother me at all here. Ed Norton, who's either a hit or miss for me, played Banner extremely well. When he was on screen, I didn't find myself wishing he would just shut up and change into the Hulk, which was refreshing (since that's about all I could think with Eric Bana's Bruce Banner debacle).

The CG for the Hulk are great. Far better than the first attempt by Ang Lee and his crew. But chances are you've already seen both the hero and the villain in the trailers by now, which I think is a wise strategy, since the movie doesn't have to waste time trying to embroil the viewer in the mysterious, long and drawn-out "reveal" process. We can just get to the part where the Hulk lays down some beatdown, then throws down some smackdown. The lowdown? Hulk SMAAAAASHHH!

10/10. Better than Iron Man, but only by a smidge. Forget the first movie entirely (besides, they basically take you through a crash refresher course on the entire plot of that giant turd in the opening credits, refilming scenes which had Bana in them and of course leaving out any remnant of the Nick Nolte celluloid-counterpart-to-his-mugshot / giant-lightning-monster).

Could you imagine Downey Jr.'s Iron Man and Norton's Hulk sharing the same frame of film? Could you imagine?! I need a clean pair of shorts just from thinking about it over here!

 

[McLaren]

Hey Anderton, do you think you could reveal what Stark's role (under spoiler tags, of course) was in the film? I may not be getting to see this after all.

 

[Anderton Prime]

I could, but alas, I have no freakin' idea how to do so. He is Iron Man, though not in a suit, and he approaches The General to "put together a team." I don't consider this a spoiler because everyone's heard of it already. Heck, there's another thread in the Movies section which blatantly discusses both the cameo of Tony Stark in The Incredible Hulk, as well as the "team" (The Avengers), and who might be in it. So yeah, Stark and the General are apparently old acquaintances from long ago.

 

[buickgnx88]

Not sure if it could be counted as a spoiler either, but...

Spoiler

Stark weapons used throughout the movie

Oh yah,

Liv Tyler, who I absolutely loathe (mainly because her one and only talent seems to be to make herself appear as though she a) has just finished crying, b) is in the process of crying, or c) is about to cry)

Very accurate description, I almost cried from laughing so hard from reading this, as ironic as that is.

 

[McLaren]

Not sure if it could be counted as a spoiler either, but...

Spoiler

Stark weapons used throughout the movie

Spoiler

Really? It makes me question Stark's actions then. In Iron Man, he wanted to stop building the weapons, unless of course, the weapons in The Hulk were already previously issued ones.

I don't know though. It makes me really want to just blow off Monday and go see the film as Stark has really grabbed my attention ever since the first time I saw Iron Man.

 

[Tornado]

As someone who thought Hulk was a decent movie that gladly wasn't as stupid as it probably should have been, I am worried that this one will be. I'm going into it with reserve.

 

[Anderton Prime]

I hope/feel confident that you will be pleasantly satiated with the quality of this movie Toronado!

 

[buickgnx88]

Spoiler

Really? It makes me question Stark's actions then. In Iron Man, he wanted to stop building the weapons, unless of course, the weapons in The Hulk were already previously issued ones.

Spoiler

I'm thinking that the weapons were already issued to the Army (who were the ones using them) before the events happened in Iron Man, since when you see Stark it's at the very end of the movie.

 

[YSSMAN]

Well, I saw this opening night as well, but I had a different opinion of it...

By comparison to Iron Man, I came out disappointed. Granted, it was miles ahead of the previous Hulk film, but something just didn't feel right. It was as if they were spending too much time on the characters, and not enough of the action, but then again I suppose there was a somewhat decent balance in the end. I think my problem was that I kept expecting all of these little hints and details into other parts of the Marvel universe (there were some, down below)... But I just wasn't hit over the head with "awesome" as I was with Iron Man.

...That, and I think Kung Fu Panda had me on too high of a note going in too...

====

Marvel Universe Stuff:

Spoiler

- Stark: He shows up at the very, very end of the movie. What you saw in the trailer, yeah, that's pretty much all of it. He makes an offer on using Banner as a team member, and that's about it...

- Stark Industries: They're not weapons for destruction per-se, but more or less specially developed stuff to stop The Hulk. Nothing too special...

- SHIELD and Nick Fury: Pay attention to the opening credits and you'll see a hint or two.

- "Mr. Blue" : I was absolutely CONVINCED that it was Mr. Fantastic at first, and I would have pooped my pants with a nerd-gasm if it were true... It would have blown that movie out into the stratosphere if it were the case! But I was let down... And I can't figure out exactly who he is.

- Captain America: Hes "there," but not really. Just the super-soldier serum, which of course, is in the Ultimate Hulk line as to why he was created... I was hoping for more, a lot more, but we didn't get much.

If Marvel Studios has anything to do with the new X-Men: Wolverine movie, which appears to have segments that take place in WWII, we have a far better chance of seeing the Cap there than anywhere else...

 

[Solid Fro]

Ugh, I thought I saw some terrible movies this year... this one takes it all (so far). I don't think my friends and I got through 30 minutes of the film (when the general started to talk with the British/Russian dude in the hanger) until we started are own commentary/Mystery Science Theater session. Why did is start to rain out of no where? When are they going to do it? I bet the general is her father. Ewww, that guy has ugly abs.

I also saw some geeky things that were a little too geeky to mention to my friends. The Army soldiers were carrying M-16 rifles, not M4 rifles, which is incorrect. They were using the civilian model of the UH-1 Huey. The AH-64D Longbow in the movie had incorrect armament and most, if not all, of the aircraft were marked incorrectly as USAF.

Besides the nitpicking, the CG was lame, and the acting was worse. If Hollywood continues to believe that movies like this will sell, no one will be attending a theater anywhere. I'm glad we got in for free. 👍

 

[YSSMAN]

You should suspend some of your disbelief when you go in, c'mon now... It wasn't the best movie, but it was pretty good, and I'll likely watch it again on DVD. They could have done a lot more with the rest of the Marvel Universe, I think that's where I was disappointed most.

 

[Alex.]

Brilliant film, much better than I expected. The final fight is very good with the double angle of it, from the ground and from the copter.

 

[Solid Fro]

You should suspend some of your disbelief when you go in, c'mon now... It wasn't the best movie, but it was pretty good, and I'll likely watch it again on DVD. They could have done a lot more with the rest of the Marvel Universe, I think that's where I was disappointed most.

I think this film required most of my disbelief to be suspended. I spent the whole movie wanting to play MGS4 instead.

Brilliant film, much better than I expected. The final fight is very good with the double angle of it, from the ground and from the copter.

Schindler's List is a brilliant film, the Hulk is not.

 

[FoolKiller]

Spoiler

Really? It makes me question Stark's actions then. In Iron Man, he wanted to stop building the weapons,

Spoiler

No, no he didn't. He wanted to stop them from being used against the innocent. He was upset that terrorists had his weapons, and not the US government. Selling weapons to the good guys was all cool.

It was as if they were spending too much time on the characters, and not enough of the action,

Did you ever read comics? It has always been, especially when dealing with Marvel, about the characters.

Bruce Banner overcoming uncontrollable powers.
Peter Parker dealing with being an ordinary kid with great power, thus great responsibility.
X-Men dealing with bigotry and prejudice.
Wolverine has a mysterious past.
Fantastic Four dealing with being publicly known heroes in the spotlight and maintaining their family closeness.

Now, I haven't seen this yet, so I can't say if it is just too much character and they forgot that it was a comic book movie. But when Marvel takes control I expected to see character development put in proper perspective.

If Marvel Studios has anything to do with the new X-Men: Wolverine movie

They don't. Marvel Studios has nothing in 2009, in order to give Wolverine room. As it should be.

I could, but alas, I have no freakin' idea how to do so.

You mean Spoiler tags? It is just like quote tags, only with the word "spoiler" instead of "quote."

Here, I'll make them backwards:
[/spoiler] - use this at the end

Spoiler

- use this first

 

[Alex.]

I think this film required most of my disbelief to be suspended. I spent the whole movie wanting to play MGS4 instead.



Schindler's List is a brilliant film, the Hulk is not.

Sorry. It is a reasonably good film.

 

[Earth]

2 out of 4 stars.

This movie would have been something had it been made 10 years ago. We've seen the big explosions, special effects, and stuff getting torn up far too many times now. We're desensitized to it now.

Besides the big explosions there was little else. The motivation for the main bad guy was underwhelming

I was cheering for this movie to work while watching it, at times it got close but ultimately failed.

I never thought the Hulk was real. They didn't do a good job of blending him into the action. He looked like a computer generated beast walking around and wasn't in the same picture as the humans as often as he should have been to make it more realistic.

Spoiler

Hulk's girl was terrible. Stereotypical weak woman. And they wanted to have sex one day after his rampage when she was dating someone else? Slut. If she walks away from the other guy so fast what makes Hulk think she won't do it to him. The scene was awkward. They tried to end it on a funny note but the damage was done.

There was way too many King Kong similiarities here. This to me was just another beauty and the beast movie with the helpless weak woman trying to tame the beast who is brave enough to walk into the middle of a warzone time and time again.

Once again, like Ironman, his final competition was an equal with slightly more power. I've seen that already this summer. Didn't want to see a climax like that again.

C'mon Hollywood. Stop relying on the special effects and explosions and make a decent movie.

 

[YSSMAN]

Did you ever read comics? It has always been, especially when dealing with Marvel, about the characters.

Quite right, and as always, its impossible for movies to reflect the ability for a character to have an inner monologue... But the problem is that with the Hulk (which is a comic I've never found all that interesting), I had expected a lot more action. More running from the army, more fighting of the army (and Abomination), etc. I just didn't get enough of that.

Its nothing personal, I did like the movie, I just didn't like it as much as Iron Man. Or Kung Fu Panda. That movie = awesome.

 

[V1P3R]

I don't see how this could be "as good as Iron Man"... I'll pass. I'm not interested.

 

[Danoff]

This movie would have been something had it been made 10 years ago. We've seen the big explosions, special effects, and stuff getting torn up far too many times now. We're desensitized to it now.

Yea, they should really stop making movies with explosions or action. Basically, action movies have been done to death. I don't know why they make them anymore.

Besides the big explosions there was little else. The motivation for the main bad guy was underwhelming

Comparable to soooooo many bad guys. His motivation was actually better fleshed out than we often get - think James Bond.

I never thought the Hulk was real. They didn't do a good job of blending him into the action. He looked like a computer generated beast walking around and wasn't in the same picture as the humans as often as he should have been to make it more realistic.

He looked realistic enough for me. I guess it depends on how much tolerance for CG you have - and I have been told I have a lot. But the CG was significantly improved over the previous Hulk, and i thought it was realistic enough to suspend disbelief.

Spoiler

Hulk's girl was terrible. Stereotypical weak woman. And they wanted to have sex one day after his rampage when she was dating someone else? Slut. If she walks away from the other guy so fast what makes Hulk think she won't do it to him. The scene was awkward. They tried to end it on a funny note but the damage was done.

Spoiler

She was not a stereotypical weak woman. She was who I believe she is in the comic books - caught in between her father and the man she loves. They didn't give her a strong role for the same reason they didn't give the scientist a strong role - because they're ancillary characters. The speed that she ditched other guy with impressed me with how strongly she felt about Banner. I thought that added to her character. She recognized what was important in her life. I actually gained respect for her when she did that.

Spoiler

There was way too many King Kong similiarities here. This to me was just another beauty and the beast movie with the helpless weak woman trying to tame the beast who is brave enough to walk into the middle of a warzone time and time again.

And what's wrong with that? I see absolutely no reason that that qualifies as a criticism.

Spoiler

Once again, like Ironman, his final competition was an equal with slightly more power. I've seen that already this summer. Didn't want to see a climax like that again.

Perhaps superhero movies aren't for you.

Spoiler

C'mon Hollywood. Stop relying on the special effects and explosions and make a decent movie.

I thought this Hulk had some decent acting, good CG, good story motivation, strong action, interesting characters, and was generally well done. It didn't strike me as a one-trick pony at all.

Was it the greatest movie ever? No. As good as batman begins? No. And if Ironman is as good as everyone says, it's not as good as that either. But that doesn't mean it's a horrible waste of time. It was still a good movie. Batman Begins (for example) is on my top 10 of all time list. That's not a standard I can hold all movies to. Like spiderman or X-men, it's a good flick, but not one to go nuts about. I just don't think it deserves the criticisms listed above.

As far as the recent bout of superhero blockbusters go, I'd probably list it like this:

----1st Teir------------
1) Batman Begins
2) Probably Ironman when I get to see it
3) First 15-30 minutes of X1
----2nd Teir------------
3) Remainder of X1
4) Spiderman (this is iffy, in some ways I liked Hulk better)
5) Transformers
6) Hulk (this one)
7) X2
----3rd Teir------------
8) X3
9) Spiderman 2
10) Spiderman 3
11) Superman
12) Previous Hulk

It lands squarely in the 2nd tier with a bunch of other movies that are comparably good but not great.

 

[V1P3R]

I just don't think it deserves the criticisms listed above.

I don't really care if this Hulk is better or not than the first one, but it takes a lot to make me WANT to go pay an arm & a leg, sit though TV commercials, deal with the local high skoolers, and finally have to watch Ed Norton in a movie that's already been done...

 

[Danoff]

I don't really care if this Hulk is better or not than the first one, but it takes a lot to make me WANT to go pay an arm & a leg, sit though TV commercials, deal with the local high skoolers, and finally have to watch Ed Norton in a movie that's already been done...

Fair enough. I wouldn't recommend it enough to go to the theater (but I almost never go to the theater anymore). See it on video. I wouldn't have seen it in the theater this time except that it was free.

 

[Earth]

Yea, they should really stop making movies with explosions or action. Basically, action movies have been done to death. I don't know why they make them anymore.

I don't mind action movies, I just would like a little bit of plot with them. And if they are weak on the plot then at least the action should be original. I thought the action scenes in the original Hulk were better while this Hulk movie had a better script. Not to say the script was great though because the original Hulk movie had a horrendous script.

Comparable to soooooo many bad guys. His motivation was actually better fleshed out than we often get - think James Bond.

It was just another downpoint in my book.

He looked realistic enough for me. I guess it depends on how much tolerance for CG you have - and I have been told I have a lot. But the CG was significantly improved over the previous Hulk, and i thought it was realistic enough to suspend disbelief.

I have alot of tolerance of CG too. I liked the speed racer movie . But it's my opinion they didn't blend him in with the humans well enough. He was always in a different shot then the humans. For example when they were fighting on the open field they should have had wide agnle shots of him, instead all we got was close ups of the Hulk that showed little else which didn't help me picture him in the real world.

Spoiler

She was not a stereotypical weak woman. She was who I believe she is in the comic books - caught in between her father and the man she loves. They didn't give her a strong role for the same reason they didn't give the scientist a strong role - because they're ancillary characters. The speed that she ditched other guy with impressed me with how strongly she felt about Banner. I thought that added to her character. She recognized what was important in her life. I actually gained respect for her when she did that.

Spoiler

I'm not sure of the plot but I'm guessing she thought he died in the previous movie? That's the only excuse I can think of for her dating someone else.

I thought the way the new Superman movie handled the same situation was better. Even though Lois knew superman was the father she never ditched her new boyfriend. That kept tension in the movie. When I first saw in the movie her dating someone when he came back I thought to myself this was going to be good.

But in the Hulk movie she dumped the guy in a heartbeat and got rid of any tension there was between Banner and her boyfriend. Like I said they got close but in my opinion failed to make an emotional movie. In my opinion if they kept her with her boyfriend the emotion of the movie would have been better.

And what's wrong with that? I see absolutely no reason that that qualifies as a criticism.

I've seen it too many times in movies. I'm bored of it. Personal opinion.

Perhaps superhero movies aren't for you.

Spoiler

Superman battled a large land mass, Spiderman battled the green Goblin, Sandman and Doc Oct. I just didn't like have such similiar endings in movies only 2 months apart.

I thought this Hulk had some decent acting, good CG, good story motivation, strong action, interesting characters, and was generally well done. It didn't strike me as a one-trick pony at all.

The biggest problem I had with this movie was that it wasn't original and it did nothing for me.

Everything was just OK. There were no special moments, there was barely any wow moments. No comedy, no emotion.

I heard Edward Norton wanted a more emotional, human driven screenplay but the studio said they wanted more action and they had a big breaking up.

Maybe Edward's version of the movie would have put more life into this film. That's the problem with this movie in my opinion, it was just lifeless and plain. It doesn't do alot wrong but does nothing great either.

 

[YSSMAN]

----1st Teir------------
1) Batman Begins
2) Probably Ironman when I get to see it
3) First 15-30 minutes of X1
----2nd Teir------------
3) Remainder of X1
4) Spiderman (this is iffy, in some ways I liked Hulk better)
5) Transformers
6) Hulk (this one)
7) X2
----3rd Teir------------
8) X3
9) Spiderman 2
10) Spiderman 3
11) Superman
12) Previous Hulk

Interesting... I don't think mine is too different...

---Tier 1---

1) Iron Man
2) Batman Begins
3) Hellboy
4) Transformers (what? I liked it!)
5) Justice League: The New Frontier

EDIT: I forgot about The Avengers... The animated one from 2006

---Tier 2---

6) Spider-Man 2
7) X2
8) X1
9) Spider-Man
10) The Incredible Hulk (this one)

---Tier 3---

11) Spider-Man 3
12) Superman: Doomsday
13) Superman Returns (bleh!)
14) The Hulk (the last one)
15) X3

 

[FoolKiller]

So, I finally got to see this. I can't believe some of you didn't like it more. But I was seeing something I think you all missed. The Point.

Yes, Liv Tyler was poorly cast, and yes the CGI is still in the uncanny valley, although better now. But during the final fight scene it wasn't too bad because side by side it looks good.

But the story is better told and that is where the side parts show you the actual point of this movie that is bigger than just the Hulk himself.

Cue spoiler text:

Spoiler

Open up a Marvel comic book written about a single character. now look at the non-main elements. Spiderman talks to Reed Richards and visits the Baxter Building. Practically everyone talks to Tony Stark about gadgets. There is more to a Marvel comic than just the titular character. It is a consolidated universe, to the point that some storylines get downright insane to make it all work.

Now, I know someone will be like, "No we saw the Stark Industries stuff and Tony Stark at the end mentioning The Avengers. We knew that already."

Yep, Stark Industries designed the government stuff. And did anyone notice the new weapon was extremely powerful, yet non-lethal? SONIC CANNONS, how freaking awesome were those? Stark has changed his ways.

Sorry, I got distracted.

The Stark Industries stuff wasn't all. Now comes the "Yes, we know it was the Secret Soldier Serum for Captain America." But did you REALLY see it? When the general opens the container holding the serum the label lists the scientist's name on it, Dr Reinstein. That is the scientist who develops the serum and injects Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, with it. Reinstein is given the codename Erskine, so the name Reinstein is not well known. After Captain America is created Reinstein is killed by a Nazi spy. The final processes, which create Captain America, were devoted to memory and no other record. That is why it doesn't work properly in this movie. No one knows how to make another.

Now, did anyone else notice Blonsky in his first run into battle? He was freaking awesome. We were given a sneak peak at Captain America. We saw part of what he could do.

And when Tony Stark appears at the end we don't pretend that only the audience knows he is Iron Man. The general all but called him another weapon he wanted. The comment about Stark's suits and then basically saying look who's talking when Stark says he has a problem on his hands. We aren't hiding anything.

That is what this movie did, was connect everything together. This movie said to every Marvel comics fan out there that this age of comic movies ignoring each other is over. The Marvel Universe has breached the film industry. And the best part is that they are being distributed by different studios. Marvel has made the movie industry bend to its will to make this happen. The only thing I didn't see was a connection to Thor.

And then for me the final fight told me this was a comic book movie and this was all taking place in the Marvel Universe. The percussion clap, the car boxing gloves, and HULK SMASH!!!! You cannot be a fan of the comics and not loved that.

And it even paid homage to the Hulk TV series. And I do not just mean Lou Ferrigno. At the end he was actually calling himself David (it was on the envelop the pendant arrived in), and he made a funny joke on the "You won't like me when I'm angry" line. And when he falls out of the helicopter, it was done almost exactly like the final scene in "The Death of the Incredible Hulk" special. Because he died from a fall off a skyscraper, something which most fans called BS on. Marvel showed it, made it obvious to those of us that remembered it, and then called BS on it.

Anyway, there is a lot to this movie that requires more than just judging it on its surface story for The Incredible Hulk. This movie is a pivotal point in the Marvel Universe in Films.

Or maybe at the end of the day I am a fanboy. But I believe that is what Marvel is trying to do now that it has taken over production of all the IPs they still retain film rights to. They try to bring new people in, but don't leave the fans staring at an emo Peter Parker in horror.

 

[YSSMAN]

Its not that I didn't like the movie, I just didn't like it as much as Iron Man. That's not to say that its a "bad" movie, I just wanted for fighting for The Hulk... And I wanted more "running" for Banner.

And like I said before:

Spoiler

If "Mr. Blue" was Reed Richards, I literally would have pooped my pants in the theater... EPIC! But sadly, it was not...

I'm not a big Hulk fan to begin with, so that's likely a large portion of the problem. I do want to see the movie again, to give it a better look over (there were kids behind me distracting from some of the movie), but its still a pretty good thing. The whole thing makes me very excited for what the Marvel-controlled properties hold in the future (can you imagine a Hulk vs Thor scene???), but I think I just had my hopes up a bit too high.

 

[Brett]

So, I finally got to see this. I can't believe some of you didn't like it more. But I was seeing something I think you all missed. The Point.

Yes, Liv Tyler was poorly cast, and yes the CGI is still in the uncanny valley, although better now. But during the final fight scene it wasn't too bad because side by side it looks good.

But the story is better told and that is where the side parts show you the actual point of this movie that is bigger than just the Hulk himself.

Cue spoiler text:

Spoiler

Open up a Marvel comic book written about a single character. now look at the non-main elements. Spiderman talks to Reed Richards and visits the Baxter Building. Practically everyone talks to Tony Stark about gadgets. There is more to a Marvel comic than just the titular character. It is a consolidated universe, to the point that some storylines get downright insane to make it all work.

Now, I know someone will be like, "No we saw the Stark Industries stuff and Tony Stark at the end mentioning The Avengers. We knew that already."

Yep, Stark Industries designed the government stuff. And did anyone notice the new weapon was extremely powerful, yet non-lethal? SONIC CANNONS, how freaking awesome were those? Stark has changed his ways.

Sorry, I got distracted.

The Stark Industries stuff wasn't all. Now comes the "Yes, we know it was the Secret Soldier Serum for Captain America." But did you REALLY see it? When the general opens the container holding the serum the label lists the scientist's name on it, Dr Reinstein. That is the scientist who develops the serum and injects Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, with it. Reinstein is given the codename Erskine, so the name Reinstein is not well known. After Captain America is created Reinstein is killed by a Nazi spy. The final processes, which create Captain America, were devoted to memory and no other record. That is why it doesn't work properly in this movie. No one knows how to make another.

Now, did anyone else notice Blonsky in his first run into battle? He was freaking awesome. We were given a sneak peak at Captain America. We saw part of what he could do.

And when Tony Stark appears at the end we don't pretend that only the audience knows he is Iron Man. The general all but called him another weapon he wanted. The comment about Stark's suits and then basically saying look who's talking when Stark says he has a problem on his hands. We aren't hiding anything.

That is what this movie did, was connect everything together. This movie said to every Marvel comics fan out there that this age of comic movies ignoring each other is over. The Marvel Universe has breached the film industry. And the best part is that they are being distributed by different studios. Marvel has made the movie industry bend to its will to make this happen. The only thing I didn't see was a connection to Thor.

And then for me the final fight told me this was a comic book movie and this was all taking place in the Marvel Universe. The percussion clap, the car boxing gloves, and HULK SMASH!!!! You cannot be a fan of the comics and not loved that.

And it even paid homage to the Hulk TV series. And I do not just mean Lou Ferrigno. At the end he was actually calling himself David (it was on the envelop the pendant arrived in), and he made a funny joke on the "You won't like me when I'm angry" line. And when he falls out of the helicopter, it was done almost exactly like the final scene in "The Death of the Incredible Hulk" special. Because he died from a fall off a skyscraper, something which most fans called BS on. Marvel showed it, made it obvious to those of us that remembered it, and then called BS on it.

Anyway, there is a lot to this movie that requires more than just judging it on its surface story for The Incredible Hulk. This movie is a pivotal point in the Marvel Universe in Films.

Or maybe at the end of the day I am a fanboy. But I believe that is what Marvel is trying to do now that it has taken over production of all the IPs they still retain film rights to. They try to bring new people in, but don't leave the fans staring at an emo Peter Parker in horror.

Very nice post! 👍

Cue more spoilers:

Spoiler

I only know this because of looking on Wikipedia for more Hulk information after seeing the movie. I have not read the comics and have only seen bits of pieces of the various stories of all of the Marvel characters, read basically whatever cartoons I watched growing up. So please, bare with me and do not rip me too hard afterwards.

But there were a few more connections to characters in the Marvel universe. The man who was dating Betty Rose is Dr. Leonard Samson, also known as Doc Samson, and apparently another superhero in the Marvel universe. The man who temporarily cured Bruce Banner is The Leader. So there are a few more tie-ins to the Marvel Universe.

And finally, I only found out about both of these because of my curiosity of reading about the Hulk character a little more on Wikipedia. I know nothing more than that, but found it interesting that these two were also in the movie.

I thought The Incredible Hulk was pretty good, though not quite as good as Iron Man. Looking bad, I now think a bit higher of Iron Man than what I did coming out of the theatre. I thought it needed a bit more action than what was in it. Really, I would like to see both movies again to see if I catch anything else in both of them and look for a little more enjoyment in them also.

Now, I am really looking forward to the next movies in both the Iron Man and Incredible Hulk Series, along with a future Avengers movie, especially since I know so very little of the characters in the Marvel Universe. 👍

Edit: This is somewhat interesting. The First Avenger: Captain America I found this while looking a few things on IMDB. You might check out the news section on the link.

 

[YSSMAN]

Edit: This is somewhat interesting. The First Avenger: Captain America I found this while looking a few things on IMDB. You might check out the news section on the link.

I wonder if it'll end up like the Ultimate Avengers animated movie from a few years ago. I really enjoyed it, and it would be awesome to see them do the same thing.

...Although I'm holding out for a "New Avengers" lineup in that one...

 

[FoolKiller]

Spoiler

I only know this because of looking on Wikipedia for more Hulk information after seeing the movie. I have not read the comics and have only seen bits of pieces of the various stories of all of the Marvel characters, read basically whatever cartoons I watched growing up. So please, bare with me and do not rip me too hard afterwards.

But there were a few more connections to characters in the Marvel universe. The man who was dating Betty Rose is Dr. Leonard Samson, also known as Doc Samson, and apparently another superhero in the Marvel universe. The man who temporarily cured Bruce Banner is The Leader. So there are a few more tie-ins to the Marvel Universe.

And finally, I only found out about both of these because of my curiosity of reading about the Hulk character a little more on Wikipedia. I know nothing more than that, but found it interesting that these two were also in the movie.

Spoiler

If I had to guess, judging by how this movie played out, I think Doc Samson will mainly play a role as Hulk's psychotherapist that helps Banner regain his mental control while Hulked out. It was obvious that Banner was getting close, so it should just be a matter of getting it done with professional help.

I actually see The Avengers movie showing how Tony Stark, or Nick Fury, tracks Banner down and takes Samson with him to help. Then they all go, including Betty Ross, and recover Captain America.

I have a feeling that we will see Mr Blue, aka The Leader. I mean, they did show him get infected with Banner's blood. In all honesty this is likely to take on the form of a villain in Hulk 2, which may actually be a perfect take on having Samson help Banner gain control , and at the end join Stark.

It just depends on if this is done before or after The Avengers.

But it appears that whichever it will be will be chosen by the fans. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/4689.asp

I wish for Leader, but I think that he was miscast in this movie.

Now, I am really looking forward to the next movies in both the Iron Man and Incredible Hulk Series, along with a future Avengers movie, especially since I know so very little of the characters in the Marvel Universe. 👍

I own a copy of the Marvel Comics Encyclopedia, I suggest getting one before the soap opera confusion sets in.

Edit: This is somewhat interesting. The First Avenger: Captain America I found this while looking a few things on IMDB. You might check out the news section on the link.

And THAT is why all the Marvel Universe elements in The Incredible Hulk have me in a geek frenzy. They all tie together to create The Avengers.

I wonder if it'll end up like the Ultimate Avengers animated movie from a few years ago. I really enjoyed it, and it would be awesome to see them do the same thing.

I think the premise will be very similar. New Avengers can't work in real life unless Marvel gets back the Spiderman and Wolverine licenses. I believe Sony and Fox will say no.



One other thing I remember now. During shots of New York you can see a skyscraper being constructed. It may have just been Freedom Tower caught in the shots, but I wonder if it is actually supposed to be Stark Tower.

 

[YSSMAN]

I didn't notice the building being constructed, but yes, I see where you're going. Given that Iron Man took place on the West Coast, I guess I'm not sure if they'd be jumping to Stark Tower yet or not...

(that makes me want to go back and watch it to find out)

 

[FoolKiller]

I didn't notice the building being constructed, but yes, I see where you're going. Given that Iron Man took place on the West Coast, I guess I'm not sure if they'd be jumping to Stark Tower yet or not...

(that makes me want to go back and watch it to find out)

With all the small things that they have in there to fire up my geeky fanboy senses it wouldn't surpise, but I am just shooting stuff out and seeing what sticks with that one.