I can now confirm Prize Car Level 40 A-spec!

[SS_1182]

The funny thing... has the OP even addressed the people who are questioning the validity of his claims by asking for pictures?


I call shenanigans on the OP. Lol, why lie in a forum?

 

[Famine]

Well, there's always someone who wants to push it. Today's specimen:

RUF build cars based on porche's, e.g. based on the 996-type porche 911 GT3. The engine in the RGT is a PORSCHE 3.6l (they are tuned porches, with a different badge) If i got a fiesta an tuned the engine but upgraded the sus etc.. and put a DAN badge on it does that make it a DAN FIESTA?? No it makes it a ford fiesta which has been upgraded by ME!

If you get an unmarked Fiesta shell with no VIN on it and put parts on it of your own design and manufacture, you can register it as whatever the hell you want. A Dan Fiesta if you wish, though Ford may take issue with your use of their name.

Ruf's cars are Ruf cars, not Porsches. They buy an unmarked unibody from Stuttgart and full it full of parts of their own design and manufacture. The car is then stamped with a Ruf VIN and registered as a Ruf, not a Porsche. And no, the engine isn't the same 3.6 as found in the back of a Porsche, though it shares some components.

The same goes for Brabus and Mercedes.

Our expertise and decades of experience are reflected in the service, repair and refurbishment of Porsche sports cars. "there website" nuff said.

Yes, they also make parts for everyone else's Porsches, because they aren't idiots. As McLaren pointed out two days ago, they make their own cars and tune other people's for them.

Which is irrelevant to the point. The Ruf RGT is a Ruf RGT and not a tuned Porsche, regardless of what you might think. Get hold of the V5C for one if you don't believe me.


Knowing things beats looking them up on the internet and trying to fit them round your preconceived notions.

The funny thing... has the OP even addressed the people who are questioning the validity of his claims by asking for pictures?

Not as far as I'm aware.

 

[frason]

Can you please post some pics of the ruf car your talking about- the game has a photo mode built into it so how hard can it be? please

You cannot use standard cars in photomode.

Funny that you Famine continues the offtopic, thought you were an admin...

 

[freedomweasel]

You cannot use standard cars in photomode.

Funny that you Famine continues the offtopic, thought you were an admin...

Can quite easily take photos of any car in a replay.

Either way, the OP has two posts which are exactly the same, and that's it. Kinda odd.

 

[Famine]

Funny that you Famine continues the offtopic, thought you were an admin...

I keep drawing a line under it by stating the facts quite clearly. People keep wanting to argue with me and make irrelevant posts like yours. I thought I was an admin too.

Go figure.

 

[orthow]

Well, there's always someone who wants to push it. Today's specimen:



If you get an unmarked Fiesta shell with no VIN on it and put parts on it of your own design and manufacture, you can register it as whatever the hell you want. A Dan Fiesta if you wish, though Ford may take issue with your use of their name.

Ruf's cars are Ruf cars, not Porsches. They buy an unmarked unibody from Stuttgart and full it full of parts of their own design and manufacture. The car is then stamped with a Ruf VIN and registered as a Ruf, not a Porsche. And no, the engine isn't the same 3.6 as found in the back of a Porsche, though it shares some components.

The same goes for Brabus and Mercedes.



Yes, they also make parts for everyone else's Porsches, because they aren't idiots. As McLaren pointed out two days ago, they make their own cars and tune other people's for them.

Which is irrelevant to the point. The Ruf RGT is a Ruf RGT and not a tuned Porsche, regardless of what you might think. Get hold of the V5C for one if you don't believe me.


Knowing things beats looking them up on the internet and trying to fit them round your preconceived notions.



Not as far as I'm aware.

Not even a moderator but a damn Admin with the huge offtopic..

Seems like you are a little butt hurt. RUF's are Porches.. as been declared over and over in this thread. To argue the point only shows you're trying way to hard to be cool on a forum.. you're admin status is supposed to have that covered for you lol

 

[Famine]

Seems like you are a little butt hurt. RUF's are Porches.. as been declared over and over in this thread. To argue the point only shows you're trying way to hard to be cool on a forum.. you're admin status is supposed to have that covered for you lol

Yes. I'm "arguing" because I want people on the internet to think I'm cool

Rufs are not Porsches. They are Rufs. Couple of clues: They're not called "Porsche", they're called "Ruf"; They're in GT5, which doesn't have a licence for Porsche. You're welcome to hold the opinion that they are, but you'd be wrong. This has never stopped anyone having any opinion before.

 

[jimy281090]

Oh my lord.. An RUF is an RUF not a porsche. Like he stated it has totally different chassis codes and engine codes. yes it does resemble a porsche but has anyone thought that its the favoured "Bodyshell" by the RUF designers?

Have you unlocked any other features upon reaching level 40? im level 37 so it wont be too long. possibly a few days

 

[brambos]

Interesting discussion... I also always considered RUFs to be tuned Porsches, because Porsche like put 10 times more R&D into developing just the bodywork than RUF spent on all the rest they changed...

But then again, you could probably argue the same thing about Lotus supplying their chassis as a base to Tesla and Opel (Speedster)?

 

[andytorr]

I know it's still off topic, but it's kinda funny watching you guys shouting about something you clearly know nothing about. What Famine is saying about RUF is 100% accurate. It's almost as though you all know this, but you're just arguing for the sake of it. Either way, he's right, you're wrong. Thought you were all meant to be car enthusiasts?

 

[Jordan92]

has anyone maybe thought that instead of a RUF being a porsche that maybe a porsche is a RUF? haha

 

[jimy281090]

I know it's still off topic, but it's kinda funny watching you guys shouting about something you clearly know nothing about. What Famine is saying about RUF is 100% accurate. It's almost as though you all know this, but you're just arguing for the sake of it. Either way, he's right, you're wrong. Thought you were all meant to be car enthusiasts?

Vote!!

 

[dirtycar74]

My friend JUST turned A-Spec level 40 a couple minutes ago right in front of me, and guess what - NO PRIZE CAR AT ALL.

Shenanigans on OP and all others for this thread is bogus!

 

[Quakebass]

RUF is a standalone manufacturer. Their cars are LIKE tuned Porsches.
There. I fixed the thread by using a simile. They perform LIKE Porsches. They look LIKE Porsches. Never did I say the ARE Porsches. Ok, can we end the arguments now?

 

[guralka]

Good idea and horrible implementation. I personally would have had to wait 10 months and who knows wtf I would have gotten... Some micro car with 12hp or god's gift to the automotive world.

Almost as bad as bspec which was both a horrible idea and horrible implementation.

Hey, Im up for a bit of exploitation, so how can you exploit this birthday card thing?

 

[Rob192005]

I tried to get a 92 ticket on a new account but it gave me nothing.👎

 

[berty1979]

I got to level 40 last night and I just got a trophy, no sign of any cars.
Where are MY prizes

 

[goukipau]

My friend JUST turned A-Spec level 40 a couple minutes ago right in front of me, and guess what - NO PRIZE CAR AT ALL.

Shenanigans on OP and all others for this thread is bogus!

I think you are bogus as the last post in this thread was from: Dec 17 2010, 9:09 PM Please do watch where you are posting...

 

[Nismo GTi]

Park a PORSCHE Boxster & the equivalent RUF model in the same colour next to each other, remove/cover all the badges on both, take a pic & tell me which is which!

If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck & looks like a duck, by this threads reasoning, it must be a pig!

End of argument.

 

[STiG39]

Park a PORSCHE Boxster & the equivalent RUF model in the same colour next to each other, remove/cover all the badges on both, take a pic & tell me which is which!

If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck & looks like a duck, by this threads reasoning, it must be a pig!

End of argument.

Lets put you in a box. Put a murderer in another box. Then they throw your box into the deepest canyon instead of the box with the murderer. WHY?

Because you are both just humans. Doesn´t matter which one you throw away right???

Me being German doesn´t make me an expert in this, but you come across more information than other nationalities.. (local press and TV and stuff like this)

So trust me as a german in this: RUF cars are NO Porsche Cars. They look similar, they drive similar (sometimes) but there are different makes and models. Period. And in the end, it doesn´t matter. Just by a Ferrari.

Oh, and for the OP: I still have 10 Levels to go...

 

[1COGTfiend]

Park a PORSCHE Boxster & the equivalent RUF model in the same colour next to each other, remove/cover all the badges on both, take a pic & tell me which is which!

If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck & looks like a duck, by this threads reasoning, it must be a pig!

End of argument.

Google is your friend, do a little research. RUF buys Porsche bodies in white and builds them to their or their customers specifications. Someone also said the RGT engine is a Porsche engine. All of the 996 chassis and the 997 chassis RUF's up to this year had a Porsche engine. RUF ponied up the R&D money and developed their own V8 engine to go in the 2012 RGT

 

[Toyota GT1]

a thread risen from the ashes! How boring achieving level 40 A spec is now adays

 

[Nismo GTi]

RUF buys Porsche bodies in white and builds them to their or their customers specifications.

Thank you!

Argument settled!

 

[SlyckTires]

And off topic, too!

 

[Famine]

Thank you!

Argument settled!

It's never been an argument. It's been a statement of facts that people want to disagree with on the "looks like" principle. Here's a restatement:

Ruf's cars are Ruf cars, not Porsches. They buy an unmarked unibody from Stuttgart and full it full of parts of their own design and manufacture. The car is then stamped with a Ruf VIN and registered as a Ruf, not a Porsche.

The Rufs in GT2/3/4/5 are not tuned Porsches. They have never been Porsches. They have been Rufs from the day they were made. Ruf also sell tuning parts for other Porsches (because it makes craploads of money doing that), but that doesn't apply to the Rufs in GT2/3/4/5.

Here's an example of how facile the "looks like" principle is:

These two cars look quite a lot like each other (I removed the badges, as you suggested). They sound quite like each other too. They go pretty much the same. Unlike the Ruf/Porsche split, they're even made on the same production line by the same people. Only they're not the same car.

There are literally hundreds of other examples and I will restrict myself until the point at which the point should be very, very clear indeed:

Kia Pride/Mazda 121/Ford Festiva
Pontiac G8/Holden Commodore (and Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro)
Toyota iQ/Aston Martin Cygnet
Toyota Aygo/Peugeot 107/Citroen C1
VW Sharan/Ford Galaxy/Seat Alhambra
Cadillac Catera/Opel Omega
FIAT 124/Lada Riva/everything the Eastern Bloc made in the 1980s
Volkswagen Lupo/Seat Arosa

Many of these examples are less clear than the division between Ruf and Porsche - they are largely badge-engineered cars produced under the same company (VAG, PSA, GM) or through single model cooperation or partnership (Ford and Mazda). The gap between a Ruf RGT and a Porsche 996 911 GT3 is massive. It's not a partnership, it's not badge-engineering and it's not cooperation - Ruf buys unmarked, unstamped Porsche unibodies from Stuttgart, fills them full of its own parts, stamps them with Ruf VINs and sells them as Rufs. They were never Porsches at any point in the chain. The same claims can be made of Brabus (only with Mercedes-Benz) and Alpina (only with BMWs).

People don't want to see this distinction - as I said, this pops up every six months or so (though this particular thread died 13 months ago until someone dragged it up again) - but that doesn't mean there isn't one. It's simply because some people see a Ruf and think it's a Porsche. If it were a Porsche, GT5 (and GT2-4) would have Porsches and there'd be no problem with the exclusive licence EA had with Porsche. Only it isn't.

Of course Ruf has now started to go their own way and build their own cars from scratch. The CTR3, for example, only has 996 taillights (like the Ariel Atom only has Land Rover tail lights).

You are wholly free to disagree and be wrong.

 

[kogunenjou]

Good idea and horrible implementation. I personally would have had to wait 10 months and who knows wtf I would have gotten... Some micro car with 12hp or god's gift to the automotive world.

Almost as bad as bspec which was both a horrible idea and horrible implementation.

I waited a year for my birthday car. Deal with it.

 

[squeakD]

This guy is straight up wrong. I finally hit level 40 like two days ago.., all I got was a stupid trophy. I don't know anyone who got prize cars at level 40. The guys over at SimRacingTonight made a fuss about this too in their GT5 final review.

 

[Famine]

Indeed - there isn't a prize car for either level 40. Since this has been gravedug from 12 months since and was full of misconceptions even then, I'll take it to the barn and put the shotgun to its head.