I Have Damaged 2 Engines.

[MrktMkr1986]

Do you still get a HP boost after changing your oil?

HP boost after refreshing the chassis? That's a new one. How much of a boost?

In addition to these questions, does the chassis refresh option make a big enough difference to justify its 5 million credit price?

 

[Solid Lifters]

In addition to these questions, does the chassis refresh option make a big enough difference to justify its 5 million credit price?

You do know that's in Yen? In US, it would be 50,000 credits, but that's still a lot in my book.

 

[NamZycad3]

We need explanation on how to repair the engines, and what the hell is a chassis refresh?

engines - i think its imposible to repair.
chasis refresh - after the weight reduction selection, there is one logo with 2 arrow, it will make your cars more like new, and from the chinese version ( i know chinese ) it said after miles of TWIST and BEND, your cars will become soft, and this will repair it, but the car will have a bit more understeer ( duno why but it just said so )

 

[MrktMkr1986]

You do know that's in Yen? In US, it would be 50,000 credits, but that's still a lot in my book.

Yes, I am aware of this fact.
And you're right, it is a lot to spend depending on how much of an improvement it is over the original car.

 

[Patrik]

imagine in GT7 or something like that, then when you blow your engine out you really ''BLOW'' your engine out! the hood is is opening or even falling off, the engine starting to burn and... well, that would be awesome

 

[jammyozzy]

imagine in GT7 or something like that, then when you blow your engine out you really ''BLOW'' your engine out! the hood is is opening or even falling off, the engine starting to burn and... well, that would be awesome

I agree, that would be awesome 👍

 

[tha_con]

imagine in GT7 or something like that, then when you blow your engine out you really ''BLOW'' your engine out! the hood is is opening or even falling off, the engine starting to burn and... well, that would be awesome

because we know this happens on road cars so often...

I have yet to see a frequent occasion when the hood fly's off and the engine is on fire...

 

[petsmart]

.......

 

[MarioAndretti]

I believe that's because Aluminum (I KNOW that's spelled wrong) gets weaker when you heat it up. I'm not sure how correct I am on that, so if I'm wrong, please post the correction and some proof.

I used to work in a machine shop and worked with all sorts of materials.aluminum,steel,copper,brass,bronze,plastic.Aluminum has a very low melting point and just kind of burns away.You can braze it,kind of like soldering,but its just not strong enough.

 

[R-Spec]

****, i'm gona kill my engines...

 

[FRST]

because we know this happens on road cars so often...

I have yet to see a frequent occasion when the hood fly's off and the engine is on fire...

I've just seen a picture in a magazine where a piston or whatever you call it just punched a hole in the engine and flew out lol amazing something like that can really happen ! was on a drag racing car one of the most extreme ...

 

[Majarvis]

So can anyone finally answer whether or not the horsepower that can be lost reaches a minimum point (eg. you start with 500 hp and it goes down to 469 hp, but you don't lose any more than that) or does it keep going down, lower and lower?

 

[Standard]

I believe that's because Aluminum (I KNOW that's spelled wrong) gets weaker when you heat it up. I'm not sure how correct I am on that, so if I'm wrong, please post the correction and some proof.

It's entirely possible to weld aluminum, and it's done all the time. It just requires a heat treat after it's been done, depending on the type of aluminum. It does require a good deal more experience than welding steel.

http://www.key-to-metals.com/Article12.htm

The Ford GT frame is also welded aluminum..

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/fordgt.asp

sorry for the OT

 

[Gilly]

It's entirely possible to weld aluminum, and it's done all the time. It just requires a heat treat after it's been done, depending on the type of aluminum. It does require a good deal more experience than welding steel

That's correct but a weld isn't as strong on the lotus as under severe stress the weld would crack (not good) but atleast as far as the Lotus Elise is concerned glue and rivets on each join just bent. I saw a programme a while back on it.

Back on topic about the engine wear, LFS on the PC had a similar realsim as far as treating the engine goes. If you reved past the red line even in a short 5 lap race on most gear changes the engine would stutter/missfire but if you kept it within it ran just fine.

I still think an option to restore the lost performance is needed by way of repair or replacement as you would be a bit worried about dmageing hard to obtain cars.

Maybe PD should include a service dept with more emphasis on regular servicing for cars in a higer state of tune either race or street and like 1 service evey 3 years for a Volvo

 

[KSaiyu]

Well I just bought a low mileage '98 civic type R and after oil change had 192 PS, 2 more than my same civic type R with much higher mileage. Gotta see if revving makes them lose more PS and if the refresh plan can restore HP....

 

[Thirdeye]

*bump* i'm still interested in how this whole hp drop + revving thing works.

 

[XCNuse]

..are sure its an actual "damage" or do you just need a refill on oil?

..i havent noticed any loss of HP in GT3, only when you need your oil refilled

 

[jaxmkii]

I wonder why PD just doesn't use the word Yen or $ instead of credits when they are already scaled to a currency.

legalitys
auto manufactures would not let them use the cars if it had a $value credits is a way of disclaiming that

 

[jaxmkii]

You know that a lot of chassis are glued and not spot welded these days? Cool stuff, try a search on it.

VW is starting to use laser welding more and more evry year now

 

[jaxmkii]

That's correct but a weld isn't as strong on the lotus as under severe stress the weld would crack (not good) but atleast as far as the Lotus Elise is concerned glue and rivets on each join just bent. I saw a programme a while back on it.

Back on topic about the engine wear, LFS on the PC had a similar realsim as far as treating the engine goes. If you reved past the red line even in a short 5 lap race on most gear changes the engine would stutter/missfire but if you kept it within it ran just fine.

I still think an option to restore the lost performance is needed by way of repair or replacement as you would be a bit worried about dmageing hard to obtain cars.

Maybe PD should include a service dept with more emphasis on regular servicing for cars in a higer state of tune either race or street and like 1 service evey 3 years for a Volvo

i picd up a 1990 240DL for a winter crasher with 266k miles it starts every morning its more reliable than my 01 turbo bug and 96 T/A

 

[jaxmkii]

I agree, I don't like the idea of cars wearing out. I would be hesitant to take cars out just to thrash them around in a practice session.

only save if your actualry racing other wise dont

 

[jaxmkii]

I reckon this engine wear is a great addition to the game. IT means there are consequences to buying old cars which adds to the realisim. I just hope there are engine blow ups.

You know, if someone can find a 'new engine' option somewhere in the tuning section perhaps, we can then confirm engine blowups without actually blowing up an engine.

A. dont save
B. just buy some crap box and FLOG IT!

 

[jaxmkii]

You are the first person ive ever seen use the words "RX-7" and "Valvebouncing" in the same sentance.





Comedy gold.

uh hate to burst your bubble but wankel or rotory engines have reciprocating valve trains just like a full on reciprocating engine yes that can bounce and drop valves just like every oneelse

 

[GT Freak!]

I now in GT3 after time and when your mileage increases gradualy even after oil changes your hp does drop and does not go back up again, but this is due the mileage and not becasus you have over revved the engine. So this will no doubt be the same in GT4, has anyone actualy found out if HP will decrease quicker if you keep red linning it?

 

[jaxmkii]

So I'll just need to watch the redline. Great. I got so used to pushing it all the way to redline most of the time (that's generally where the power is).

LOL stop buying hondas

 

[jaxmkii]

I used to work in a machine shop and worked with all sorts of materials.aluminum,steel,copper,brass,bronze,plastic.Aluminum has a very low melting point and just kind of burns away.You can braze it,kind of like soldering,but its just not strong enough.

theres this new tech called Tugsen inert gas weilding or TIG its how you wield aluminum

 

[santapod123]

bit off topic talking about weilding alluminium aint it can we stick to the topic in hand

 

[Jedi2016]

LOL stop buying hondas

I actually don't have many Hondas in the game. But it's a well-known fact that horsepower favors the upper end of the RPM gauge, in virtually any engine.

Doesn't really matter much now anyway. Since most of my cars will be stock, I'll just drive 'em in Arcade..

 

[Majarvis]

LOL stop buying hondas

Congratulations, you've just awarded yourself the idiot of the day award
Like Jedi just said, race engines favour the high-rpm band too, so I guess you'll stop buying racing cars too now, right?
Since you spend most of the time in the high-rpm range while racing, I really don't see why this would be a bad thing for a Honda engine, in fact, that would be a good thing for the engine to make its power at high rpms (just like Hondas do).

 

[Jay]

uh hate to burst your bubble but wankel or rotory engines have reciprocating valve trains just like a full on reciprocating engine yes that can bounce and drop valves just like every oneelse

How can a Wankel rotory engines "bounce valves" when it doesnt have any?? It has ports not valves.

Feel free to point out these reciprocating valve trains for all of us.