I really don't know what to do?

Discussion in 'Forza Motorsport 5' started by R35 SKYLIN3, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. R35 SKYLIN3

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    Would appreciate the advice of our fine community on this one, First il explain my situation.
    Recently I got my first job in a long time, and its in a games shop, So i get good staff discounts and stuff. I had my heart set on getting an Xbox one and Forza 5, As my experiences on Gran Turismo have been slightly dissapointing and I used to have much more fun back when I had an X360 and Forza 3.
    I get paid enough money needed to get an xbox one, Forza 5 and xbox gold for a year this friday, So i decided to take a look here and see what was said about it.

    I looked through the forums and realised there was a large amount of things wrong with/missing from the game, Such as things like the Auction house, Storefront and half the Car list (I always found the Forza 3 list to be one of the best I have used), And as a result I am having severe second thoughts, So the question I ask, Is it worth buying an Xbox one for Forza 5? Or am I just as well getting an xbox 360 and forza 4?. I dont currently have a next gen console and Forza was really the defining factor in the deciding of which I preferred, And im not sure now! Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. PzR Slim

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    I'd wait until the new add on is announced this week and see what it adds to the game.
     
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  3. TJisA1337NOOB

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    I can only speak from very limited experience with Forza 5 beings I just got it. I thoroughly enjoy it and I'm sure Turn 10 will continue to work on improving it. Forza 4 is an amazing game too though.:)
     
  4. FosterG

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    I have both Forza4 and 5, though 5 have less content, I have not regretted my purchase and I look forward to every addition they make to the game. Got a fresh paint job here, got to get back to the track and "wind dry" it ! :)

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  5. DrPuppetwarrior

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    Forza 2 was the only forza I played and it was actually pretty good. I haven't played gt until 2011. While I'm sticking with gt I think it is all of a matter of what you think.
     
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    Bought FM4 in January last year after being nothing but GT since day of it's original release. Wish i had jumped earlier. I have zero regrets about getting FM5 LCE so soon after getting FM4. I miss a couple things from FM4 but nothing that has killed the game play for me.
     
  7. symo63

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    I have played both GT and Forza all versions and they both offer something different. I loved FM4 and have loved playing FM5 and the content etc hasn't really impacted the game as we are getting more cars etc. I love the Drivatar feature in FM5, just seeing your mates on the road and trying to beat them. Great feature, the auction house etc will no doubt come down the track. For what its worth I would get the Xbox One with FM5, especially if you are into Car Racing as there is nothing similar (yet) on the PS4.
     
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    Forza 5 is the best you're going to get on console when it comes to physics. To me, that's the number one priority. I was initially disappointed in the car and track list, but having purchased the VIP pack and car pass, and with the free track(s?), it's not that noticeable and I haven't gotten bored of the car list yet. More tracks are needed and we're all hoping that will be rectified this week. The addition of open wheel cars adds a massive new element to the series that many seem to overlook. I personally don't miss the auction house as I rarely ever used it and credits seem to flow like water. The storefront still exists, albeit the economy of it has changed and finding a design is a little clunky (though integrated into the car buying process which is cool). The addition of new colors and special colors (white white wheels!) makes for much more interesting and authentic designs. I bought it on day one, have over 62 hours of just driving (additional hours for tuning, designs, etc), just bought the Thrustmaster TX wheel and a rig to go with it and I cannot get enough of it.
     
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  9. Ialyrn

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    I got FM5 on day one, and I havnt regretted it at all. I have played and owned every forza on day one, and physics wise they have always improved. The lack of content in FM5 (cars and tracks), is only due to the fact that T10 decided they wasn't up to par graphically for the Xbox one and next gen gaming. They are rebuilding there library of cars and tracks back up though. They seem to be slowly adding to the game each month, there are month updates which include data for the DLC cars, as well as bug fixes. By T10 forcing the new cars into everyone's games, it means that even if you don't buy them, you will still be able to see them online instead of the old blacked out VW Bora null car.
    They added Road America back into the mix in Feb also, not to mention it was a free track update.
    Online racing can be hit and miss, what with people purposely crashing people; but T10 are actively banning for that practice. Regardless it is still easy to find a good clean lobby after a couple of attempts, most days I get in a clean lobby right away though. The blocking system works a lot better on the X1, but that's a console feature, not a game feature. As Hal said, credits are really easy to get in FM5; in my opinion a little too easy. However, there was a ton of complaints at the games release that it was too "hard" to earn credits. People decided it was because there is a micro-transaction system in place, which allows you to buy tokens with real money to buy cars, upgrades, and also XP boosters. I Havant felt the need to use them at all though, not even when the game first came out. I am currently sitting at 22million in game credits. All in all its a good game.

    From my understanding the auction house was removed because of people distributing hacked cars and paints through it, the same with the old store front system, car clubs, and gifting. I think it got mentioned on the old forza forums by someone in the know, and mainly because of the sheer amount of complaints regarding those in game features been removed. In all fairness though, T10 did say they would be gone in like June/July of last year; there was plenty of warning for that one.
     
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    I am aware that the auction house won't exist in its previous form to reduce hacking and exploits but I am hoping the Marketplace is "coming soon" and will have some flexibility and ability around gifting cars, receiving crs from designs and any other feature that may not be listed.
     
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    Marketplace is for buying DLC cars.
     
  12. Ialyrn

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    No one at this time can say for sure what the market place is intended for, well except for T10. The DLC is handled differently in FM5 compared to past forza's, so it could be what Symo is hoping it is for. Then again, you could also be spot on with your own assumption.
     
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  13. R35 SKYLIN3

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    First of all I appreciate the pointers and normally I would make this kind of investment, but I havent had this kind of spare money in quite a long time, And there are a few different options, Xbox one, PS4, Save up a bit more and get PC, Get a new phone (mine is crap) or things like this, I wouldnt like to jump headlong into a decision without knowing as much as I can.

    Another question, What kind of Hardware does X1/Forza support (Wheels and stuff)
     
  14. UKMikey

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    Xbox One only supports one wheel so far, ThrustMaster's TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition. The PS4 definitely supports a wider range of hardware than Xbox One including all the hardware which worked on PS3. However it's only had one exclusive racing game announced as far as I know (Evolution's DriveClub) and that's been delayed for around four months already.

    It's up to you whether you want to play the long game or wish to put your "mad money" to use in a racing game right now.
     
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    Indeed it's either a 250-300 buck investment in a 360 + FM4 (and i would pick up Race Pro also), or a 550-600 investment in going next gen with the Xbone and FM5.

    The good thing is; if you have never had FM4 before you'll be busy for the next year or so enjoying yourself, and after that you'll have to buy a next gen console anyway, but by then Xbone will cost 300 bucks anyway :)

    So if you are prepared to wait, you can have both consoles for the price of what you pay for a Xbone right now.
     
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    Sounds like a great idea actually sir. Will save me some money as well!
     
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  17. Ialyrn

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    There is a another much cheaper Thrustmaster wheel now on sale as well, it only has 270 degrees of rotation; but its only £89 on Amazon at the moment.
     
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    Well, there are a couple of things to consider here:

    * FM4 was probably the best console sim on last-gen, so you really don't want to miss out on that. It's considered by some to be the best in the franchise so far.

    * Iteration 4 has car variety and a track count, but mostly car variety and challenges that'll make your mind spin! Again, you DO NOT want to miss out on all the fun.

    * FM5 appears to be a great launch title on paper, however, it has inconsistencies, especially based on what you've read up on the web. It's true. Though it's a launch title, which leaves a lot of room for improvement and experimentation.

    * From what I know the PS4's hardware is far more powerful; on the subject of getting a new-gen console, you might want to save your cashiola for Sony's console as the X1 clearly has inferior hardware. <--- I don't own one, but this is what gaming sites are saying about it, compared to the PS4 and a mid-range to high-end gaming PC.

    * However, being said, if you've enjoyed all the MS exclusives over the years, you may want to get the X1. It all comes down to personal choice as a consumer you see.

    ^^ Alternatively, you could wait for a few months more and see what direction FM5 takes. Looks good so far with them releasing free DLC tracks and car packs. <--- free car packs only if you have the season pass.
     
  20. R35 SKYLIN3

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    Il probably wait a few more weeks/months anyway to build up the coinage :D
     
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    To be clear, right now in the UK it's the same price as the PS4 but comes with Titanfall(I think there is a version that comes with Forza 5 too).
     
  22. R35 SKYLIN3

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    Well like i said i work in a games store and can make up my own bundles so that side of things is fine :)
     
  23. CAMAROBOY69

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    I personally would suggest getting the 360 and Forza 4. If you enjoyed F3, F4 is WAY better. As mentioned above, there is an insane amount of content with Forza 4. Almost 700 cars, lots of tracks, and the campaign will easily keep you busy for well over 1-2 years. Its VERY long. There are also plenty of people still playing F4 online. Plus there are an overwhelming amount of great games on the 360. Quite a few of them are even free.


    I agree with all of this. Get the 360 and F4. By the end of the year the x1 will be cheaper, F5 will have quite a few updates with tracks and cars, and the X1 will also have most of the bugs worked out.
     
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    ^^Sound advice. Now go get it! :cheers:
     
  25. mrPetros

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    even though forza 4 (and horizon) is a package that one could label as a "must have", i would have some second thoughts about giving advice to go get them now. (mid-april '14)

    forza 5 is already out in new hardware, with better physics, with cars that feel more alive than ever, you got laser scanned tracks and stuff like f1 indy and open wheelers to make up for the lesser number of cars.
    and everything in game mechanics is as good or better than 4 in 5. (bar the auction house)

    plus you are spending your money for today and for the next couple of years at least, with the rumored forza horizon 2 hitting later this year.

    I think I would not advise to go and buy a brand new 360 and everything else against forking more for the new tech and games.
    If you can find a good deal on a used console and the game(s) for cheap, then yes, go with that if you want.

    but if you sit down for a couple of hours with forza 5, then go home to forza 4... maybe not the best-spend money ever! at least in my opinion.
     
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  26. UKMikey

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    How long are Turn 10 going to keep supporting FM4 online? Without the servers it's only half the game really.

    They didn't really start closing the FM2 servers down until last year though. Hopefully the servers for 4 will be up for a similar length of time.
     
  27. Ialyrn

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    Personally I would advise against this, so much so I even made my boyfriend buy a brand new 360 a little over a year ago; there is far too much risk involved with buying a used console.
    All it takes is for T10, activision, EA (or some other game dev), and even Microsoft to have placed a perm ban on a console to not be able to use a particular game (or any in the case of a perm ban from MS directly, the console itself) on the 360. It is always advisable to buy a 360 (and even a PS3) brand new. There is usually no recourse for a refund/exchange either, because technically the console is working; a store has no obligation to provide a solution for this scenario. I asked this at my local GAME store in the uk when my boyfriend bought his console, as they tried to sell us a used system; their answer was "I will go and grab a new console for you".

    T10 for instance went on a banning spree last April to remove modders and hackers from Forza 4's online, there was thousands of consoles perm banned worldwide when this happened. I would show the thread from a T10 employee on the forza forums, but T10 have since released a new forum this year; the old one is now gone. It is also not advisable to use the storefront for tuning setups, as you can buy tunes that have hacked wheels, removed body parts (bumpers, wings that cant normally be removed from a particular car i.e the Silvia S15, bonnets), hacked engines/engine mods, hacked tire widths. The same can happen within the auction house also, the game is infested with hacked cars and hacked tunes. Someone new to FM4 runs a real risk of accidentally picking up one of these hacked cars/tunes, and then they end up with a perm ban from the game. You don't need a modded system to pick up one of these hacked cars/tunes either. They can also be shared via the the in game car club garage, and if you use them, you will also pick up a ban. They can also be shared with the games gifting feature, these issues are a part of why those in game features are not in FM5. Some people took major advantage in FM4, and much like the ability to have a backed up save game (FM1 on the original Xbox, which was used to credit glitch), T10 took the features away in the newest games.
     
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    NEVER ever get a used 360. Ever. Unless you have a warranty. Still I would never buy another used 360. I also would not recommend buying a console from Gamestop, unless you have a warranty.
     
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    My friend bought a used xbox 360 and has no problems at all. Just saying...
     
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    Its not that we are saying there are no used consoles that are good, its just a very high risk of picking up a banned console from either xbox live or a particular game. There have been countless threads on the forza forums themselves about this. Someone posts saying they bought a pre-owned xbox 360 and complaining they can not access FM4's online features, only to be told the console is permanently banned from the Forza 4 servers and will not be undone; and it also means your gamertag is then also banned from the Forza 4 servers (and any console that GT has been used on). The same goes for a console ban from Xbox live, not only does recovering your gamertag on a banned console result in your own gamertag been banned, but if it is then loaded up on a console that isnt banned; that console is then also banned from Xbox live for good. Its a guilty by association thing, and MS nor T10 will reverse any ban that is a result of this. It just isn't worth the risk, and the subsequent loss of money.