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How do you feel about the racing in the streets mods if this is wrong you can lock it right away.
 
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No really? I never knew that.. I think this thread is gonna be locked soon..
 
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I think it's stupid that people will risk their own life and the lives of others to see whose Honda Civic goes faster, and whose ego is bigger. And no amount of tracks built will change this. People will still race on the streets.
 
This discussion has been done before & the general consensus has always been against the activity.
 
I think you're asking what I think of street racing? OR whether more race tracks are needed.

Obviously I would love to see more tracks as a racing and driving enthusiast, but being realistic for a second, is there really the demand? Would it stop street racing? Probably not.

I personally think street racing is stupid, irresponsible and dangerous. If people wish to endanger their own lives, they can do so at their own discretion. They don't however have the right to endanger the lives of others for the purposes of their own enjoyment. Yes tracks are expensive, but hobby's can be expensive, if you have an expensive hobby then that's just how it is, perhaps its worth thinking about getting another hobby.
 
Going to a once a month fun day at a track not far from where I live is $130. That's a pittance compared to what a lot of people advocating street racing will spend on mods or just burning up tires, not to mention the costs if something goes wrong. Besides that, various clubs have their own track days there. I don't think the track people will put up with anyone acting overly aggressive or becoming dangerous, either, and they'll probably make sure anything that's been bolted onto a car is secure.
 
Street racing proves nothing except who is dumber, luckier and more homicidal. If you want to know who's faster, the track or autocross is the place to do it.

And even then, I feel that any competition where the car's ability plays a part is pointless. I'd rather win because I'm a better driver, not because I have a better car (I win more often than not... and I'm honest enough to admit that it's sometimes the machinery doing the work, not me...)... which is why I enjoy go-karts so damn much. :D
 
going to a once a month fun day at a track not far from where i live is $130. That's a pittance compared to what a lot of people advocating street racing will spend on mods or just burning up tires, not to mention the costs if something goes wrong. Besides that, various clubs have their own track days there. I don't think the track people will put up with anyone acting overly aggressive or becoming dangerous, either, and they'll probably make sure anything that's been bolted onto a car is secure.

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I've been on both sides of the fence on this one, as a street racer in my teens and then as a track racer afterwards. The main difference between both boils down to one simple word......maturity.

See, the people who mostly street race are usually in their late teens or early 20's, so they are immature, think that they are above the law (I did back then) and don't care about who else is around, so long as they are able to get the win. When you combined nearly 1000 cars and 5000 people (which was quite regular in the mid-90's in Sydney) you were always destined for trouble. You get people doing stupid stuff like donuts and burnouts, surrounded by spectators with no regard for their own safety. These things usually add up to people being injured when a car goes out of control and spears off into the crowd, or the rear end swings around too fast during donuts for the people to avoid the car and get whacked about by the car. You also have those same spectators trying to make the burnout better by lifting the rear end so there's less weight, or putting diesel on the tyres to make it spin easier. When there's a drag race, you have a person standing between two cars which can at any moment jump towards that person on launch and sometimes hitting them as they take off.

On the actual track, you will NEVER see those things happen. Sure, there's heaps of spectators, but they are placed in more appropriate places like the stands. If there's a car on the burnout pad, you don't see 400 people surrounding it trying to assist it in it's burnout. If there's a drag race, you have things like the safety safari, ambulances incase of major accidents, prepared tracks, christmas trees, all the things to make the environment safer. Most importantly, you have the police on your side, not out there to impound your car because you're doing the right thing.

In Australia, we had the police participating in legal off-street drag racing (one of the other Aussie's can help me, VP Commodore running 10's, can't remember the name of that car), using a highway patrol car and there are a few places around the world (examples being Portland, OR & Vancouver, BC) where the police have a drag car in police stripes racing up the 1/4 mile. It's not that common, but there are some police forces that see the need to promote safer racing by practicing what they preach and going up the strip themselves.

But in short, it's better to go to the strip. Usually you pay $50, and get a whole night's worth of drag racing action, plus you get to go up the strip atleast half a dozen times through the night.
 
i've been on both sides of the fence on this one, as a street racer in my teens and then as a track racer afterwards. The main difference between both boils down to one simple word......maturity.

See, the people who mostly street race are usually in their late teens or early 20's, so they are immature, think that they are above the law (i did back then) and don't care about who else is around, so long as they are able to get the win. When you combined nearly 1000 cars and 5000 people (which was quite regular in the mid-90's in sydney) you were always destined for trouble. You get people doing stupid stuff like donuts and burnouts, surrounded by spectators with no regard for their own safety. These things usually add up to people being injured when a car goes out of control and spears off into the crowd, or the rear end swings around too fast during donuts for the people to avoid the car and get whacked about by the car. You also have those same spectators trying to make the burnout better by lifting the rear end so there's less weight, or putting diesel on the tyres to make it spin easier. When there's a drag race, you have a person standing between two cars which can at any moment jump towards that person on launch and sometimes hitting them as they take off.

On the actual track, you will never see those things happen. Sure, there's heaps of spectators, but they are placed in more appropriate places like the stands. If there's a car on the burnout pad, you don't see 400 people surrounding it trying to assist it in it's burnout. If there's a drag race, you have things like the safety safari, ambulances incase of major accidents, prepared tracks, christmas trees, all the things to make the environment safer. Most importantly, you have the police on your side, not out there to impound your car because you're doing the right thing.

In australia, we had the police participating in legal off-street drag racing (one of the other aussie's can help me, vp commodore running 10's, can't remember the name of that car), using a highway patrol car and there are a few places around the world (examples being portland, or & vancouver, bc) where the police have a drag car in police stripes racing up the 1/4 mile. It's not that common, but there are some police forces that see the need to promote safer racing by practicing what they preach and going up the strip themselves.

But in short, it's better to go to the strip. Usually you pay $50, and get a whole night's worth of drag racing action, plus you get to go up the strip atleast half a dozen times through the night.
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horde_r35
Who said racing through traffic?
Doesn't matter.
So your saying doing 200mph on a highway with only 2 or 3 lanes its ok, but a drag race on the green light its not?! Ok...
Didn't say that, nor am I using an outrageous amount of speed travel.

General speeding on the autobahn happens around 100-120Mph. The German govt. is fine with it b/c the speeder will slow down when he comes upon traffic or a highly populated area. They are trained to do so. Racing isn't because people start taking risks.

In the US, the same idea is shared. People speed around 10Mph over the limit & 95% of these people will slow down when they encounter slower traffic. Most of these people also aren't speeding on purpose. They're doing it normally because they are keeping within the flow of traffic. If you didn't know, which judging by your posts, you don't, that's a general rule of the road.

Street racers do not. They keep going because they can't bare to let their ego be bruised.
It may seem like it some times... but GTPlanet its not really a court, is it? lol
That's beside the point. If your argument won't hold any sort of ground in a case, chances are, it won't hold any here, either.
Believe what you like or better yet believe what the news tell you!
Please do not make up stupid ass facts.

Professional drivers did not get to where they are from street racing. Michael Schumacher, Jackie Stewart, Richard Petty Sr., Tom Kristensen, etc. were not some badass street racers like you think they are.
Speed limit. If you obey all the traffic laws, why not bye a diesel with 80 or 90hp? Would be a better and smarter choise, wouldnt it? lol
Wrong. A speed limit is not why people choose to have leather in their car or pay $400,000 for a Rolls Royce.

It's because they can. Hard Parkers are the prime example of people who look like they race, but don't. It's because they can.
 
Wow... a mysterious disappearing post, or is horde_R35 somehow on my ignore list despite my not putting him there?

I'd like to note, and this always comes up in discussions of the speed limit... why buy a 150. 200, 250, 300, etcetera horsepower car if you don't want to break the speed limit?

Bullcrud. A 90 hp diesel can break the speed limit. A 90 hp diesel compact can tear the speed limit to pieces and buzz a traffic cop going around a hundred mph if it has the right gearing. My dad's 135 hp diesel hatch can do nearly a hundred and fifty.

That said... yes, a 90 hp diesel is the smarter choice, simply because it'll be cheaper to run and does 100% of what most people require of a car... but like McLaren says... people buy more expensive and, consequently, more powerful cars simply because they can.
 
I can't see that post horde_r35 made either. Maybe it got deleted.
 
If you guys aren't joking and really don't know, it looks like McLaren is responding to a post in the locked thread.
 
Ooh... a locked thread? Ah... I see it now.
 
How do you feel about the racing in the streets mods if this is wrong you can lock it right away.

More or less it is stupid as hell. The end.

Ooh... a locked thread? Ah... I see it now.

Yeah... Horde is being the horde we know and, erm, know - Ego maniac in defense of his Civic and "racing" skills on or off the street.
 
Yeah, thank Horde for 🤬 up my 'stupid drivers' thread, some people just don't get the hint when asked twice already to cut it out. :grumpy::mad:👎
 
Ok, I see what he was responding to now. I hate when an arguement gets so out of hand, that a thread has to be locked to contain it.
 
I have a friend who literaly got mad at me because I don't street race.
Now everyone here know my age he the same age and a Honda guy
I think you should take it to the track and run it. I rather gameble in a
safe enviroment than som where that I'll have to worry about getting into
a fight. Also, you make more money at the track than the streets.
 
:confused: How is that?
Because you can also put a bet on someones car who has been doing well all day.Instead of
having to wait for the racer accept the battle [sreetrace wise] I've seen people lose bets because a 17sec car is whoping 🤬 all day. And
big boy breaking out trying to catch them.
 
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