Incorrect car models

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On the other hand, there is serious modeling problems with other cars: Like the V8 in the V10 R8, the mirrored BMW badge in the Z4 M coupe, the tachometer on the M5 as well as the S13 Silvia, the speedometer in both ZB Vipers and the McLaren F1, the gear stick on the hatchback Impreza, the "invissible sequential shifter" on the regular Ferrari F430 as well as the GT by Citroens, the incorrect shift pattern on the Ferrari 512 BB, the incorrect possitioning of the front brake calipers on the M5, the driver not ussing the paddles on the SL55, when it does have them, the Mustang GT sounding like a manual transmission car, the temperature gauge on the Ford GT acting like the oil pressure gauge, the XKR having the same rear bumper than the regular XK8 when on track but not on exhibition, and the anoying paddle shifting animations while racing.. If someone can mention a few others, that would be awsome.
 
Both exist in-game and in real life.

The Vauxhall Astra STC ran in the WTCC, the Opel Astra DTM ran in obviously) the DTM.
 
I think they list the 2000 Corvette as a Z06 when in reality it was called the FRC back then. (Fixed Roof Corvette)
 
I have read it - it's the description for the OPEL Astra DTM. Vauxhall have never ever entered the DTM and that car was not re-badged as a Vauxhall for the WTCC either as TenEightyOne suggests. Totaly different rules and regs' apply in the WTCC (very similar rules to the BTCC) for that car to ever be eligable to run in the race.
Faithless Emo, the fact that picture has OPEL written down the sides and has an Opel badge on the grille show you paid no attention to my 1st post where i deliberatly wrote VAUXHALL in capitals to emphasise the point i was making!
I don't get why GT had to slap a Vauxhall livery on it, why not make a completely new liveried Opel Astra DTM rather than keep churning out DTM cars from GT3 and slapping incorrect badges on them?
 
I think they list the 2000 Corvette as a Z06 when in reality it was called the FRC back then. (Fixed Roof Corvette)
And it had the same power numbers as the normal C5, I believe.

Both exist in-game and in real life.

The Vauxhall Astra STC ran in the WTCC, the Opel Astra DTM ran in obviously) the DTM.
I'm going to break down why this is false, and you can feel free to rebut any of it at your leisure:
  • There was no WTCC in 2000.
  • The ETCC, which was around in 2000 and is now known as the WTCC, used Super 2000 regulations (or maybe Super Touring. I'm not sure.). Which are about as far removed from the DTM regulations as possible.
  • Even if there was a Vauxhall version of the Astra DTM that was raced in some other series (and there wasn't), it would not be identical to the DTM version because there was no other series where the regulations were close enough that the car could be entered.

PD made the car up. And they probably made up the older Vauxhall Calibra as well (I know less about that car, but it seems like a fair enough assumption). They are both just more examples of the pitiful amount of effort that they have put in the past towards accurate localization (see: Lexus).
 
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Seems it's nothing new to GT5. Look at the bottom right corner.

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And here too it seems...

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On the other hand, there is serious modeling problems with other cars: Like the V8 in the V10 R8, the mirrored BMW badge in the Z4 M coupe, the tachometer on the M5 as well as the S13 Silvia, the speedometer in both ZB Vipers and the McLaren F1, the gear stick on the hatchback Impreza, the "invissible sequential shifter" on the regular Ferrari F430 as well as the GT by Citroens, the incorrect shift pattern on the Ferrari 512 BB, the incorrect possitioning of the front brake calipers on the M5, the driver not ussing the paddles on the SL55, when it does have them, the Mustang GT sounding like a manual transmission car, the temperature gauge on the Ford GT acting like the oil pressure gauge, the XKR having the same rear bumper than the regular XK8 when on track but not on exhibition, and the anoying paddle shifting animations while racing.. If someone can mention a few others, that would be awsome.


maybe related to only my Mazda AZ-1 but, in a race, the seat are red/black and in photo mode, blue/black
 
I'm going to break down why this is false, and you can feel free to rebut any of it at your leisure:
  • There was no WTCC in 2000.
  • The ETCC, which was around in 2000 and is now known as the WTCC, used Super 2000 regulations (or maybe Super Touring. I'm not sure.). Which are about as far removed from the DTM regulations as possible.
  • Even if there was a Vauxhall version of the Astra DTM that was raced in some other series (and there wasn't), it would not be identical to the DTM version because there was no other series where the regulations were close enough that the car could be entered.

PD made the car up. And they probably made up the older Vauxhall Calibra as well (I know less about that car, but it seems like a fair enough assumption). They are both just more examples of the pitiful amount of effort that they have put in the past towards accurate localization (see: Lexus).

Absolutely spot on. And i had totaly forgotten abouit their 'Vauxhall Calibra DTM' which again, you are totaly correct with.
 
maybe related to only my Mazda AZ-1 but, in a race, the seat are red/black and in photo mode, blue/black

I still remember reading somewhere that GT5 swaps the photo mode models for different ones while racing, or lowers the level of detail or something like that... The AZ-1 thing sounds like that's where the issue hails from.

I like how it's a big deal in Forza 3 but not in GT5 when a car is not done properly
This, basically. Or every other competitor to GT, for that matter.

There were quite a few times people claimed that T10 shot themselves in the foot, because the outsourcing to 'Viet Nam' caused so many flawed car models. PD would, of course, never let that happen :sly:
 
There's one that I know of not listed here. I'm really into the whole prototype sports car and Le Mans scene, so I spend a lot of time just staring at those cars wherever I see them. The CLK-GTR in Gran Turismo is actually modeled after the CLK LM. Here is a comparison.

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CLK-GTR

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CLK LM

As you can see, the car in the game is the CLK LM with the CLK-GTR wheels. This mix-up doesn't bug me too much, as the two cars are often mistaken on the internet as well. I just wish that the GTR-labeled LM in the game had the LM wheels. :)
 
The Spyker C8's been wrong since GT4. It's STILL listed as an FR car when it's really an MR. And Yeah, there are some other cars that are incorrectly labelled and modelled, but it's still a great game.
 
I believe there's also a problem with the Autobianchi A112 Abarth. The model itself is perfect but the year of that particular model was certainly not '79.
 
Nissan 300ZX 2by2 '98 and Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Vers S. 2seater.

Both have a 3rd brake light, but it doesn't work.
 
This, basically. Or every other competitor to GT, for that matter.

There were quite a few times people claimed that T10 shot themselves in the foot, because the outsourcing to 'Viet Nam' caused so many flawed car models. PD would, of course, never let that happen :sly:

It's not too big of a deal in either. But the problems are more evident and much more common in Forza 3. Most of the problems in GT5 are with the standard models that were ported from GT4, or model naming errors (No, they didn't model the car wrong, they just gave it the wrong name in those cases). The Audi R8 V10 is probably the most extreme example of a fault among the premium cars. Some of the ones off the top of my head in Forza are body shapes, angles and curves that are inaccurate, which is often down to rushed modelling. But as long as they are accurate to an extent, it doesn't matter.

As you can see, the car in the game is the CLK LM with the CLK-GTR wheels. This mix-up doesn't bug me too much, as the two cars are often mistaken on the internet as well. I just wish that the GTR-labeled LM in the game had the LM wheels. :)

Just like how everyone think the CLK GTR flipped (2-3 times?) at Le Mans, when it was infact a CLR :)
 
If you are flashing with the headlights in the Corvette ZR1 RM, you will notice that the right parking light is flashing but not the left one.
 
I've noticed some errors too.

On the maserati gran turismo, the Pininfarina logo on the right side of the car is missing, it's only on the left side in the game

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and more importantly, the Lancia Delta Integrale (premium) is the Japanese version (ok thats fine, has different sized front lights because of japanese law at the time) but the rally version has the same different sized lights :scared:

example:

Normal version of the Delta Evo
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Japanese Market version
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Evo WRC version
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I think they made an error when modelling the car for gt3/4 and used the earlier version of the car as a reference for the lights :dunce:

This is the older 16v rally car
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Note that there are more difference then just the lights 👍
 
The floor of the 427 Cobra is red regardless of exterior color . Most Cobras i've seen have an entirely black interior . The car also has a spoiler in the grill and a hood scoop ( that doesn't appear functional ) . I thought the spoiler was for street cars with no scoop . The wheels are wierd too . But I guess this is more an issue of P.D. picking strange cars to reference . The '69 Camaro Z/28 differs from "factory stock" in several small ways as well . Not all cars were built the same in the 60's but I would like to see prime examples featured in the game.
 
Not sure about the M5, but the S13's tacho was fixed in 1.06. 👍

I can now confirm that the M5's tacho was fixed, but the needle wont rev beyond 8,250rpm. :boggled:
 
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