Intermediate rally makes no sense to me!

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I used the '08 WRX STI 5-Door tuned to 344hp. Dirt and Snow were a breeze. Tarmac was much tougher, and I'm not sure why. Possibly because I tuned to drift the slower corners and it ended up slower. The Intermediate races (5 stages) were much harder than the Expert (8 stages.) For expert I just up'd the horsepower on the already glorious Rally C4 and flew through the races- no drama.
 
I did the dirt and snow races with a lightly modded '91 celica GT-four. The tarmac rally I did with a similarly modified '97 MR2 GT-S.

I have similar pics of myself on the snow rally in the expert level races driving the Delta S4 rally car. I had to have rolled it end over end 5-6 times after hitting a jump sideways at 170+ mph.
 
Wait till you get to the advanced one. Impossible to beat even with a souped up Citroen WRC '08. Probably one Kazunori's amazing ideas - "let's make this level unbeatable"!
 
BradKinder
I golded those using a Subaru Impreza WRX STI Version VI Type-R with some mods. As long as I didn't crash into a wall, every win was many seconds ahead of all of them.
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This works very well. In fact it was too easy, I was at least 10 sec ahead on every section. Probably the easiest race to level up and money.
 
I took some practice in arcade mode at Eiger Nordwand track with default impreza 2010 sedan and found out that C4 rally special isn't much faster (just about 3 seconds), despite costing 700000 cr more. If fact, it's even more difficult to drive because it slides more, so you have to brake earlier than in impreza and take corners slower.

If you buy any kind of impreza, i'm sure you can make it.
 
My RM Evo IX finished both Gravel and Snow with a full minute and a half to spare on each at least. I think I had 45 seconds or so on the tarmac.

My suggestion is to RM a Imprezza or Evo IX.
 
I used my Lancia Delta and only got bronzes, and one silver for the tarmac. This is including all of the difficulties. Maybe Ill buy the 205 and see if I can do better.
 
I would go for a WRC but something newer than a Delta if you are struggling. I haven't tried the S4 on it yet, the Escort was nice though and had a good max speed with a few tweaks, so you make tons of time on the straighter sections. The RS200 Rally Car would destroy it though but i'm guessing that's way too powerful, if it's realistic (not seen it in GT5 yet!)
 
Tyger
I struggled with a tuned road car, tried an EVO VI TME tuned to 340bhp-odd at first, and was getting bronzes, might have had the odd silver. Then managed to snag an Escort WRC for a pretty good price, tuned this up also and started getting golds. The Impreza you win is better still and shouldn't need any tuning.

It's worth turning ASM and Anti-Skid off though, least I found it easier to slide around some of the corners. With them on there is a tendency to undesteer, which reminded me of the rally stages in GT4...I found those to be hard work and rather unrealistic.

I got the impression the timing issue was because during the rally it was giving me my split against the last place car rather than the leader, but could be wrong. If that is the case that needs to be fixed.

I also found the snow stages relatively easy (especially in a WRC that pushes 150mph), tarmac a little more challenging but gravel hardest of all. To those who have mentioned how the rallies seem different each time, I believe that's because the stages are randomly generated?
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Randomly generated but to the same variables i think.

The same stage will always be short and fast, or long and technical for instance.
 
AgentGT
Randomly generated but to the same variables i think.

The same stage will always be short and fast, or long and technical for instance.
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Are you sure? Particularly on the earlier stages I would be expecting to make up some time on a longer final stage, only for it to be one of the short mile-long sprints, though admittedly on the harder stages the last one was usually pretty long, especially in snow. Perhaps there are set factors and lengths like you say, but they sometimes mix the order of these up a little.

I'm not sure how I feel about the randomness either, as even in WRC drivers often know the stages already or check them out for the pace notes. I was kinda relieved in that Grand Tour stage with the Murci to find that course wasn't random :)
 
Tyger
Are you sure? Particularly on the earlier stages I would be expecting to make up some time on a longer final stage, only for it to be one of the short mile-long sprints, though admittedly on the harder stages the last one was usually pretty long, especially in snow. Perhaps there are set factors and lengths like you say, but they sometimes mix the order of these up a little.

I'm not sure how I feel about the randomness either, as even in WRC drivers often know the stages already or check them out for the pace notes. I was kinda relieved in that Grand Tour stage with the Murci to find that course wasn't random :)
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Yeah, having no practice/qualifying sessions before each rally or race is a annoying.
 
Did the basic and intermediate snow and dirt stages with my first GT5 car (a moderately tuned FWD suzuki swift). I didn't even bother tuning it up further for the intermediate stages so was giving away well over 100hp and two driven wheels. Easy golds for me, about 20-30 seconds clear of the field. Not very realistic, I don't think. :grumpy:
 
I used an unmodded and untuned (save for tyres) Lancia Delta rally car for the advanced challenge. Tarmac was a bit tricky but in the end I golded all.
 
I think its completely random how easy or hard it will be. Just like how each track is completely random. I just did the intermediate rally snow event and got gold ahead of the rest of them by over a minute! I even passed up all three of them in one race alone. Just keep trying, eventually it will be real easy for you.
 
witham
You make that sound easy.
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Fact is, if you are able to gold those ones, you don't need uberpowered cars for the rest, not even the one you win from loebs challenge. Because you should've learned in that challenge that you need to drive through the corners to keep up speed instead of sliding through them.

I could do easy and intermediate with a R5 Turbo almost stock first and a bit more tuned on intermediate, close races and 7 secs at the end... But be clean is the message. On expert you need a true rally car, and GT-Four was mine!
 
I don't know why, but I found the snow portions of the rally challenges super super easy. On almost each of them I was able to catch and pass, the three cars in front of me. Even on advanced difficulty.

The gravel parts were different. I had trouble with those.
 
ditto as above....Snow the AI seems really slow...I am usually 20+ sec ahead by mid way of a long stage...I've even manage to win stage spinning twice....
 
speedthrill
Fact is, if you are able to gold those ones, you don't need uberpowered cars for the rest, not even the one you win from loebs challenge. Because you should've learned in that challenge that you need to drive through the corners to keep up speed instead of sliding through them.

I could do easy and intermediate with a R5 Turbo almost stock first and a bit more tuned on intermediate, close races and 7 secs at the end... But be clean is the message. On expert you need a true rally car, and GT-Four was mine!
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That Renault is the perfect weapon. Turbo and lightweight. It was my enemy at the Beginner level.
Smoothness does seem to be the key, but downforce helps with cornering speed, too.

So, low weight, good aero and maximise the area under your torque curve whilst meeting the power limit (forced induction.)

Am I the only one who can't hear the pace notes, no matter the view? It makes it much more difficult, trying to interpret the map directly. I think it might be the dynamic range settings...
 
ASH32
The simple solution is to gold the Loeb challenges as you get his wrc rally car and you can use that in both the inter and expert challenges.
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I only got some POS C3 -_- But Im going to buy my C4 soon lol
 
i managed to complete this one with about a minute ahead at the end after the SS5 in all 3 events.

the trick is that you are ahead of the car infront of you. thats what the timing is based on. at the end you are compared to the best of the 4 instead.
 
In almost all the super sets I would pass the car in front of me and nip at the toes of the car in front of him (2nd car in line). The obvious and simple thing to do is pay attention to your gear indicator. A solid red gear number means get ready to slow down enough to be in that gear, and when it gets to flashing rapidly, that's when you begin braking until the red gear number stops or disappears. I play with a G27, but I didn't find it difficult at all to just do 4wd drifts through most the turns. All I do is after I am done braking, release brake, turn in a tad early(it oversteers without gas), then gas out and straighten out the wheel. This usually points me perfectly into the exit of the corner. Some weird shaped corners I would have to countersteer a bit, but it doesn't harm my times at all. All my settings and computer nannies are off except ABS at 1. In beginner I used a bone stock S15 silvia (it was fun lol, rwd on rally), intermediate a lightly modded STI (from dealer, the new hatchback model, intake, exhaust, chip, and whatever else I needed to get as close to hp limit for those races - no suspension mods etc), and expert I used the freebie rally car I won from the intermediate (also an STI but the older classic blue rally car version, unmodded except buying the sport softs I needed for tarmac). I honestly didn't see why it was so hard for others. As long as you aren't smacking the walls for time penalties you should be right there in the leaderboards. Just don't go and corner too slow. The rear end will slide a little at decent speeds where you can just straighten the steering up and gas right out of the corners. Just don't enter too fast where your rear end is trying to kiss your front bumper or the walls.
 
ASH32
The simple solution is to gold the Loeb challenges as you get his wrc rally car and you can use that in both the inter and expert challenges.
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+1

Ridiculously easy with the Loeb Rally car. Makes getting gold for the Loeb challenge very worthwhile (and it's not even that difficult compared to golding other events).
 
The AI is terribad at snow, ok at gravel, and good at tarmac.

I like the tarmac rallies though as drifting around corners in the Focus WRC is just too fun.:)

Edit: I had no real trouble with my Evo 7 Type RA or something like that. I only lost the first stage in the gravel by a few 300ths of a second to Loeb (who I proceeded to destroy in the subsequent stages).

Edit: By the way, I'm not able to earn anymore money from the advanced rally, and that really ticked me off at the end, though it was epic racing. Glitch or was it intentionally programmed that way so PD can point and laugh at me?
 
2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, modded to 344 HP, weight reductions, tranny and drivetrain mods...

Beat the Intermediate Snow challenge by 1:18:00+ after all 5 runs...

lol way to easy
 
AgentGT
I too have experienced the odd effect of being 8 seconds up on the rest only to be a second or to down at the end with no obvious mistakes.:crazy:
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yup. that seems to be a classic for me.
my tip is to turn off all driving aids.
it's do-able that way.

wooh, first post! :sly:
 
grafpt
I only got some POS C3 -_- But Im going to buy my C4 soon lol
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OHHH, I Gold'ed Tuscana and Eiger but cant get it on Snow -_- Since I claimed that car, if I gold Snow one will I get C4 then?
 
Used a tuned Evo X, I had to tune suspension to tone down the under steer on tarmac stages though.
 

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