If they were regularly active in forums and on the servers, that wouldn’t necessarily be the case. It would only be that way because at present, they act like ghosts.I'm sure kaz and others play. They might even do Sport mode...
I doubt they're open about it though. Theyd just get messages constantly like "BRING US SPAAAA" and crap like that.
It would only be that way because at present, they act like ghosts.
That’s the thing though. If PD staff or GMs were regular participants in the online community, I highly doubt the majority of people would feel the need to vent their frustrations or be angry at the staff. I think most people, at this point, feel sort of desperate in their desire to communicate with the developer, which is why people have the tone they do. If there was regular communication, people would at least know their feedback is being heard.Devs letting people know they are playing their own games is a good idea in theory but horrible in reality when you realize how much vitriol they would attract,imagine how much hate Kaz would attract while playing.
Kaz comes across as a very close minded man, & PD is as a result a very closeted studio. Even if anyone from PD was regularly playing GT Sport, I doubt they would be allowed to advertise it on the internet. And anyway, their job is making the game (including liveries), so I don't know why on earth they would want to come home after a hard days work & make even more liveries for free!
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That’s the thing though. If PD staff or GMs were regular participants in the online community, I highly doubt the majority of people would feel the need to vent their frustrations or be angry at the staff. I think most people, at this point, feel sort of desperate in their desire to communicate with the developer, which is why people have the tone they do. If there was regular communication, people would at least know their feedback is being heard.
Absolutely! But I don’t think many of them spend much time racing online in GTS.I doubt more than 10% at most of their employees deal with livery creation. MediaMolecule employees play their own games and design "Dreams" in their spare time. I'd wager most PD employees are into cars in some way or another. Why wouldn't they want to participate?
Absolutely! But I don’t think many of them spend much time racing online in GTS.
Kind of off topic, but in line with PD employees being into cars. Ever since playing Genki’s Tokyo Extreme Racer series, which is about highway racing on the Shutoku Expressway system in Tokyo, I’ve theorized that some PD employees may have been involved in that scene when it was in its hay day, namely the 90s and early 2000s.
The scene was all about taking skylines, supras, STis, Evos, GTOs, 911s, and more, and making stupid amounts of horsepower to try to go as fast as possible (sounds kind of like GT1, no?).
In the Genki games, there were dozens upon dozens of “teams”, made up of members from all walks of life. In the game, every driver had a made up profile. According to some people in the TXR community, some of these driver profiles were imitations and tributes to real people who were active in the Mid Night Car Special club. There was a number of these driver profiles that stated something along the lines of, “this guy works as a video game designer at a leading studio in downtown Tokyo”. I’ve no idea if any of these low level team member driver profiles are at all imitations of real people, but any of the bosses, both the cars and the profiles, were initiations of real people. The final boss was the Devil Z, which was a real car that raced on the Wangan. The white RX7 was a tribute to RE Amemyia. I can’t rememeber who Emporer was a tribute to, maybe Smokey Nagata?
Now, I have no idea if PD staff were members of the Mid Night Club, but I’d almost guarantee they knew of its existence, and what was going down on the freeways of downtown Tokyo.
PD headquarters, which used to be located on R246 (I don’t remember if it still is, they moved or expanded at some point), is literally like 2 blocks away from one of the branches (the Shinjuku line) of the Shutoku
PD HQ, or was it Sony HQ? Either way, one of them was located on the main straight of the R246 circuit.
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Light Blue - Tokyo R246
Upper Yellow - Shinjuku Route
Lower Yellow - Shibuya Route
Green - C1 Loop
Light Green - Yaesu Route
Purple - "New Loop Line", aka Shinkanjo Loop
Blue - Yokohane
Red - The Wangan, aka The Bayshore Route
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Edit: for some reason, two photos won’t work, no idea why. They work fine when I’m editing this post, but as soon as I “Save Edit”, they go back to being X’d out. The first one is a close up of R246, the second one that doesn’t work is a shot zoomed out enough to see the map stretching from Daikoku PA in the south to Tatsumi PA in the north.
Diakoku Futo PA
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SSR7 was definitely a simplified tribute to the Wangan. The bridge was styled after the Yokohama Bay Bridge, which is located just south of Daikoku Futo on the Wangan. The style of racing that SSR7 encouraged was basically what was happening on the Bayshore Route in the 90s and early 2000s (side note, Nissan’s famous Bayshore Blue on the R34 GTR is named after the Wangan. Before the R34 was released, the R32 and R33 were basically considered the kings of the Wangan. They also had a colour named Midnight Purple....)
Several of the scapes in GTS feature various sections of the Shutoku. Daikoku PA is the most infamous hangout spot for car culture enthusiasts in Tokyo. The scape labelled “Highway Service/Parking Area” is Tatsumi PA, basically the northern end of the popular route on the Wangan. On those maps, it’s located at the northern intersection of the Wangan and Shinkanjo. Basically people would race/cruise back and forth between Tatsumi PA and Daikoku PA.
The circuit “Tokyo Expressway Central Loop” is styled after the south, west, and east part of the C1 loop.
The circuit “Tokyo Expressway East Loop” is styled after the eastern section of the C1 combined with one of the tunnels on the Wangan near Tokyo Int Airport.
So PD is very much aware of the car culture scene in Tokyo, a large part of which used to be focused around top speed racing on the freeways (back when cop cars had max top speeds, so all you had to do was be faster than the cops lol). Whether or not PD members participated in the illegal racing side of the scene or not, I have no idea, but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to find out that some of them were at least around, even just watching, in some capacity.
A quick CCW run around the Shinkanjo, starting and ending at Tatsumi PA.
For all we know, Kaz could have been out on the highway that night![]()
Just as a disclaimer, so no one tries to jump down my (and your) throat for supporting or admiring street racing.That's heaven on earth right there, wangan midnight racing![]()
Just as a disclaimer, so no one tries to jump down my (and your) throat for supporting or admiring street racing.
I discovered all of this back in 2001-2002 when I was 16, through the Genki TXR games. Playing those games, yes I gained admiration for the cars and the racing (I’ve since grown out of thinking steer racing is cool), but more than anything, I fell in love with the ribbon of tarmac.
The fast sweepers, the crazy elevation change, the scenery - it was unlike anything I had ever seen or even imagined before. To me, it’s like an urban Nürburgring set in a Tron universe.
I said in a different thread, but if PD could whip up a PS4 quality full Shutoku (combine TXR:0 map with TXR:3 map with Import Tuner Challange map, with all the PAs), and have a server that could host a hundred or so people at a time, that would basically be the only circuit I would ever need in a game. I could get completely lost in there(not entirely true, I still love racing vintage cars on classic circuits too).
I also play a lot of Elder Scrolls Online, and I have never once, in over 3 years, seen or heard of anyone from Zenimax playing or interacting with the player base in the game realm.
Thats pretty cool to hear (I loved Activision’s Vigilante 8 seriesI used to work for Activision back in the day and from my experience everyone from the publisher's mail room to the developer plays the games after release. Usually QA testers, producers, and developers are insanely good at the game from long hours of playing with it. If it's a fun game, team members are always playing it, using their 9 to 5 uber skills to pown all the new players and mess with people via all of the boundary issues and physics bugs they knew.
I left the company in 2007 and people were still having Quake Arena LAN deathmatches on the floor.
They'll usually play under the radar though, grouping and forming parties with other team members. Activision actually has a sizable gamer group that plays together, still running a WoW guild consisting of current and past employees and sometimes challenging family studios to matches.
And completely unrelated to your post, but back to my off topic tangent about the Shutoku...sorry I can’t resist.
@Ridox2JZGTE, from ‘93
You would actually go that far in disrespecting the creator of one of the greatest game series' of all time?If I was in a online race and I knew kaz was in it too, I would so ram him off into a sand trap. And my end of race message would be "enjoy your new SR"
That's the nature of the internet.You would actually go that far in disrespecting the creator of one of the greatest game series' of all time?
Was a joke mate.You would actually go that far in disrespecting the creator of one of the greatest game series' of all time?
You would actually go that far in disrespecting the creator of one of the greatest game series' of all time?
Careful with the jokes round these here parts. I recently made a joke about punting Maganes into sand traps, and I got called a fascistWas a joke mate.