Is GT5 physics running similar to forza 2's in the background?

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But ... I really don't understand why do you have a G25 and still play console games using a controller. Even if you do it very well. They're DRIVING games. How can the extra-pleasure of playing them with a wheel and pedals be irrelevant to you?
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My usual answer is similar to what Dave said -- I can't be bothered to set up my G25 every time I want to play a console game, much less when it means I'll be playing it through a smaller screen (17" CRT monitor vs 27" CRT TV), with degraded image quality, a lower framerate, and a bit of control lag (capture card). Building a rig to play in front of the TV would be too much work for too little payoff in my case, and would either be flimsy or take up too much space.

Beyond that, I didn't like GT4 any better with a wheel, GT3 is too simplistic and vague to be worth using a wheel, and I couldn't get used to the wonky force feedback in Enthusia. I don't have a PS3, and the 360 doesn't support the G25. So, PC games it is.
 
commenting on the physics engine while using a controller does not seem to make sense. Physics dictates the "feel", GT5 has very good feedback when using a wheel.

Some games are made to be played with a controller, specifically GRID and maybe forza. But others were built for a wheel.
 
Well, I tried putting the brake bias all the way to the back and sure enough it becomes unstable under braking. Obviously I've never done this with a car, but with a Kart it tends to swing from side to side before swapping ends whereas in GT5P it seemed to pick a side and stick to it.

I don't know if that's more realistic for a car or not.

What I can say is that it was a lot of fun and that even with the controller I was able to "catch" it and correct. It was a bit like introducing very controllable oversteer.

I also did a few quick tests for EBD. In real life I was once in a situation (M25 near Dartford) where I was travelling at 70mph when suddenly I needed to brake but had two wheels on snow and two on tarmac. Obviously the car didn't like that, but the EBD (I assume it was EBD) straightened the car out even as I was reacting to the situation.

With the assumtion that this is what EBD should do I went to GT5P and drove with two wheels on the grass, letting the car coast at 100kph. Then I hit the brakes hard. It pulled gently to the right (direction of the wheels which were on the tarmac). Repeating this several times produced the same results.

I then tried again with ABS turned off. In this case the car did the same but much more violently.

Now, these tests weren't very scientific as I didn't do them on exactly the same bit of road and can't be sure I was doing exactly the same speed. In the ABS test I had ABS strength set to 4. I was also using the controller, which, in my hands, isn't a precies tool :-)

So, early indications are that EBD gets turned off with ABS. I'll try and run some more tests at the weekend, if work doesn't intefere!

Thanks to Scaff for the inspiration to dig a little deeper, it's been fun :-)
 
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