Is the negativity ever going to end?

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Imari
It'll be interesting to see what the ultimate legacy of GT7 ends up being. All the components are there for it to be the best GT game ever by some margin, but at the moment the career, economy and microtransactions are threatening to drag it down to be at least perceived as the worst GT game.

It's very possible that Polyphony turn this around entirely, but you have to wonder about the mindset of people that created a game like this in the first place.
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At the very least, my hope is (and this is just my opinion only, not based off anything previously said) that GT7 is Kaz's passion project; that even he knows as it stands now it is not his game in the form he wants it to be, as has been his mindset all along. It is a multi-year project, one that he sees GT7 to be a constant stream of updates, new cars added, new competitions added, new features added and that the goal of attaining the 10m+ credit cars is to be seen as an end goal, for a fantastamilistic 'Legendary Competition' event, and in the meantime enjoy the 'classic' Gran Turismo style of buying, tuning up and racing 90's Japanese classics and European 00's cars.

Of course, why we're limited to a small number of those cars in Brand Central and have to wait for them to appear in 'used cars' makes it even more baffling. So far it's been the game telling which cars to tune up, rather than the ones I want to. **** the Ford F-150.
 
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Silverfox1984
At the very least, my hope is (and this is just my opinion only, not based off anything previously said) that GT7 is Kaz's passion project; that even he knows as it stands now it is not his game in the form he wants it to be, as has been his mindset all along. It is a multi-year project, one that he sees GT7 to be a constant stream of updates, new cars added, new competitions added, new features added and that the goal of attaining the 10m+ credit cars is to be seen as an end goal, for a fantastamilistic 'Legendary Competition' event, and in the meantime enjoy the 'classic' Gran Turismo style of buying, tuning up and racing 90's Japanese classics and European 00's cars.

Of course, why we're limited to a small number of those cars in Brand Central and have to wait for them to appear in 'used cars' makes it even more baffling. So far it's been the game telling which cars to tune up, rather than the ones I want to. **** the Ford F-150.
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It's weird that Kaz only wants us to play the game a certain way. People who want to grind for cash - punished for doing it. Anyone trying to do things their own way - firmly discouraged. Players having fun is seen as less important than players mindlessly following a set path, then coughing up lots of extra money for cars at the end of it.
Is PD in a Bethesda Fallout 76 situation, where they've run out of money and are now desperate to milk players for the cash they need to keep going?
 
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Boxster
For a few days now I have been reading nothing but negativity on this forum. Do you guys never get tired of being outraged?
It's not that I don't understand the disappointment, I just can't stand the constant raging. Literally thousands and thousands of posts repeating the same complaints. I get it, you are not happy. I just don't want to read the same thing repeated at nauseam.
And what is hilariously funny: everyone is complaining about the grind so much, that reading this forum is becoming a grind. Wow!

We all know now what your complaints are. Can we also post about something else?
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If you can’t stand the rage, that’s on you. If you like the game, fair enough, go play it then. But to ask for everyone else to stop “raging” over PD’s insane greed and the broken in-game economy just because you’re sick of hearing it? Do you realise how stupid and selfish that sounds?
 
Well, if you want some positivity, I just won 500k on a 6 star roulette ticket as reward for the daily distance thingy.

The other prizes were the 1 million credit Mazda concept, one of the better Aston Martins, and some parts...and a big pile of gold bars which turned out to be 500,000 credits.

Can't complain.
 
DodgySyrup
Well, if you want some positivity, I just won 500k on a 6 star roulette ticket as reward for the daily distance thingy.

The other prizes were the 1 million credit Mazda concept, one of the better Aston Martins, and some parts...and a big pile of gold bars which turned out to be 500,000 credits.

Can't complain.
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It's like casino, nobody would go there if they steal all money from you immediately. They are very careful.
 
DodgySyrup
Well, if you want some positivity, I just won 500k on a 6 star roulette ticket as reward for the daily distance thingy.

The other prizes were the 1 million credit Mazda concept, one of the better Aston Martins, and some parts...and a big pile of gold bars which turned out to be 500,000 credits.

Can't complain.
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I won 1,000,000 credits from one of those tickets a week or so ago. Did that make me think that the game is any less broken? No, quite the contrary actually. It just adds to to the unjust nature of the game. Horrible.
 
newsdeskdan
It's weird that Kaz only wants us to play the game a certain way. People who want to grind for cash - punished for doing it. Anyone trying to do things their own way - firmly discouraged. Players having fun is seen as less important than players mindlessly following a set path, then coughing up lots of extra money for cars at the end of it.
Is PD in a Bethesda Fallout 76 situation, where they've run out of money and are now desperate to milk players for the cash they need to keep going?
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Another favourite series of mine i've seen get collectively worse and greedy. GT4 is like F:NV. It just seemed to get everything right.
I'm starting to come around to the grinding and the overly inflated prices; it's GT, it's what we do (even if we're doing it for much longer) It's the CUTOFFS, the rotating availability, the timed invitations, get it now or you don't-know-when it-might-be-back incentivisation. That is just really scummy to me.

Naturally not a problem if you buy MTX's, but what is the plan for those who don't, who Kazunori himself just stated he wanted people to enjoy GT7 without using microtransactions. I'd love to hear what his vision is of GT7 for those that don't.
 
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Strittan
If you can’t stand the rage, that’s on you. If you like the game, fair enough, go play it then. But to ask for everyone else to stop “raging” over PD’s insane greed and the broken in-game economy just because you’re sick of hearing it? Do you realise how stupid and selfish that sounds?
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I am just asking people posting here to not repeat the same rant a thousand times at maximum volume.
If that's too much to ask, too bad.
 
Boxster
I am just asking people posting here to not repeat the same rant a thousand times at maximum volume.
If that's too much to ask, too bad.
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Jump aboard then. Doesn't matter what your complaints are about as long as you complain. Complaining about other people's complaints just grews the outrage wave that's flooding PD. :D
 
Strittan
I won 1,000,000 credits from one of those tickets a week or so ago. Did that make me think that the game is any less broken? No, quite the contrary actually. It just adds to to the unjust nature of the game. Horrible.
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Obviously, I wasn't suggesting this is anything more than a one off.

I was just replying to the OP who wanted less negativity and it was all I had to offer...lol.
 
People aren’t complaining about the racing or core game, just frustrating stuff like always online servers and the game economy getting in the way.

A $70+ game shouldn’t be so aggressive with f2p aspects to sell currency. They hid this stuff from reviewers so they know it’s scummy. Like who the hell has 18.5 million credits for the mclaren f1 without heavy grinding or buying them.
 
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newsdeskdan
Is PD in a Bethesda Fallout 76 situation, where they've run out of money and are now desperate to milk players for the cash they need to keep going?
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Can't be because Sony owns them whole. The funding for the project comes from PlayStation Studios' pocket. Which leads me to believe the main reasoning behind the push for MTXs in this title on the scale that it's at and the questionable progression slowdowns is directly influenced due to the Sony execs.' decisions.
 
TSTO
Can't be because Sony owns them whole. The funding for the project comes from PlayStation Studios' pocket. Which leads me to believe the main reasoning behind the push for MTXs in this title on the scale that it's at and the questionable progression slowdowns is directly influenced due to the Sony execs.' decisions.
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Sony is also making a bunch of live service games. Watch them all be like this. $70+ games built like f2p games.
 
Tenacious D
"Healthy communication" by slinging emotion driven, corrosive vitriol by outraged people who might poo your post if you disagree with them? No, online communication is half-bullying today.
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But it doesn't have to be and some people needs to build a thicker skin.
 
Hard to say anything positive about this game when your game progression is blocked from the first second as in my case. Two weeks after the release nothing changed! Very very bery frustrating!!!
 
PD is forcing you to either play bumper cars for 30 hours or cough up 200$ if you want the McLaren F1.
For comparison that exact same car was in GTS for 5$. The only people who would realistically be able to get these sorts of cars are the very wealthy and the unemployed who can afford to sit around for that long.
Recycled content shouldnt cost this much.
 
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Symtex
It is also how you build echo chambers that create fanboyism. Seeing someone will a total different opinion of point of a view on a subject is primordial to an healthy communication on a forum that is design to allow people to communicate. If everyone had the same point of view in life, it would be boring AF
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I'm not talking about creating an "echo chamber" by stifling others ability to voice their opinion on this forum. I'm only suggesting for those who feel bothered by some (like the OP) to simply use the tools available to filter the content they see. You can still post what you want to say and others can still read it if they want.

Personally, I use the ignore feature on most of the forums I'm active on. It's simply a content filter to help me view the stuff I'm interested in and hide the stuff I'm not. ....same with how I deal with my news feeds, who / what I follow on social media, YT, Netflix, etc., etc.
 

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