It is time to acknowledge.

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Dear forumers:

I have finished my journey through the new 1.06 update, and I really think it is time to acknowledge PD's work on it.

I have always thought that Gran Turismo simply has no rival, whatever flashy garments the other video games may have, Gran Turismo is the king by far.

Nothing comes close to the feeling of driving a car in GT and it's classy concept.

All the modifications that came with this update raised GT5 to another level. I was really worried (I have to admit) that GT was in a steep decadence, with all the bugs, illogical issues, etc...

Now we have a proof that PD is working on the right path, if SONY forced them to rush things, well, it's their business, it's their ways.

I knew that Mr. Yamauchi would not let us down, or more precisely, allow his creation to sink in the rubbish of another generic, mediocre, and unpolished modern video game.

While there are a lot of things that most of us really still desire, GT5 is again special.

I'm 36 years old, I grew up with all the classics since video games were practically born. I've lived them all.

I can remember many many epic moments in video game history, and one of those was when I discovered Gran Turismo while roaming through Akihabara in Japan around 15 years ago. It was the biggest novelty. I played a bit and I'm here, still playing the franchise.

Thank you PD, I'm sure you listened to what people said, I'm sure SONY forced you to rush things, and I'm sure you will keep on giving us a yet better GT5 through updates, getting closer every day to the perfect racing video game, even though, it has always been the best in the industry.

It's time to acknowledge some things, don't you think guys?
 
Well said mate 👍
Instead of whining, people should give them some credit too
 
I'll agree with you when my update actually updates..
 
There should be a "Like" button on these forums or something. I agree completely. I'm 28, and I can also remember back to the original Gran Turismo on my PS1. I spent more time on that game than I did any other game, just like I am with GT5. I didn't even buy a PS3 until GT5 had what seemed like a reliable release date :)
 
We do need to acknowledge what GT5 is instead of picking on PD for all these little things that are not perfect. Good job PD and keep the updates coming. ;)
 
Dito mate, still have gt1 2 3 4 prologue 4 5 prologue and finally 5, i
aint played another game since i bought this in november.
My wife hates the game lol Women pffft what do they know ;)
 
Right so this is the thread for the deluded fans who try to hide the fact that GT5 has flaws and who will defend PD all day long for releasing an unfinished game and for providing us with substandard game play and updates? Right thats good to know, guess I wont be finding balanced discussion here then!

We all know that PD got lazy, didn't think about what they were doing, spent an extra year or so making the game because they hadn't bothered in the time they had previously and well, the rest is a rubbish product really.

I'll just quote a comment that someone made in my thread (the one a few places down that this thread followed, if you go there though you will find balanced discussions) But like a guy said, it is like we've spent however much to do Beta testing for PD so they can perfect GT5 whilst still making money out of us!

But hey, don't worry about it PD, like others have said I am sure that Sony rushed you to get the work done and the game released, I mean, clearly the years you had to make the game just weren't enough ... We all completely understand ... Hey look, someones took my GT5 disc out of my PS3 and inserted GT5 Prologue? I don't remember so much content? Well it all looks the same so I must remember wrong ...
 
👍 Props to the OP for saying what needs to be said. I'm 43 and I'll tell you that video games have come a long way since PONG! LOL I got my racing start on POLE POSITION and I'll take GT5's standard cars over that ANY day! I love this game and I can't wait to get off work and experience the new AI that I keep reading about. WTG PD!
 
Hig-GT
Right so this is the thread for the deluded fans who try to hide the fact that GT5 has flaws and who will defend PD all day long for releasing an unfinished game and for providing us with substandard game play and updates? Right thats good to know, guess I wont be finding balanced discussion here then!

We all know that PD got lazy, didn't think about what they were doing, spent an extra year or so making the game because they hadn't bothered in the time they had previously and well, the rest is a rubbish product really.

I'll just quote a comment that someone made in my thread (the one a few places down that this thread followed, if you go there though you will find balanced discussions) But like a guy said, it is like we've spent however much to do Beta testing for PD so they can perfect GT5 whilst still making money out of us!

But hey, don't worry about it PD, like others have said I am sure that Sony rushed you to get the work done and the game released, I mean, clearly the years you had to make the game just weren't enough ... We all completely understand ... Hey look, someones took my GT5 disc out of my PS3 and inserted GT5 Prologue? I don't remember so much content? Well it all looks the same so I must remember wrong ...
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No pleasing you. Why do you bother?
 
Like I posted in the 1.06 topic, I think PD did an outstanding job. They really outdid themselves and we know (we always knew to be honest) that they won't forget their little baby game, they will keep improving it over time. :)
 
Yup.. love the game and love the fact that those constant cry baby types still continue to play (and post their tears) the game daily and cry about how bad they think it is. Guess they don't realise that there are tens of thousands of other games out there and a few other consoles.
Thumps up PD. 👍
Tissue's for cry babies. (Insert cry baby smilies here)
 
As said, the deluded fans who will defend GT5 and PD to the hilt ... Sad sad way of life unfortunately.
 
Hig-GT
As said, the deluded fans who will defend GT5 and PD to the hilt ... Sad sad way of life unfortunately.
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What’s sad is that you have rubbished this game so much yet you are still crying about it here and still playing the game. If I don't like something, I don't do it... otherwise, shame on me. Who's really sad pal? Rhetorical question as I know the answer.
 
Yeah before the update i was very unhappy with the game, now though looks like gt5 is going to be in my PS3 for a whole lot longer.
 
... and it's sad that you demand a balanced debate in your thread and come here just to start some s***. Just go find another thread to cry in and another game to whine about.
 
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i must admit i was so angry and dissapointed when the game was released, how many years in the waitin.. the number 1 reason i got my ps3 only to find a partially finished game. I had, and i quote accoeding to one GTP member "the mother of all unnecessary rants" on launch day when we were unable to get to even play the game due to the supidly annoying server issues and playing while logged into PSN.
HOwever, i am really pleased with the 1.06 updates. I have not had chance to play yet though (as i am married and we all know what wives think of the game!!) but from what i have read i have to agree that PD have done a good job this time. WHo says they do not listen to the gamers/fans.
Yes the new additions in this update should have been in the game from the get go, but at least we do not have to put up with a game that was released and just left the way it was.
keep it coming PD
 
Excellent Update!! makes me happy to see the game which got me into ps to begin with is going to actively update with proper changes and keeping the people happy!'

side rant, when I was reading the 1.06 update info it was almost like they took two weeks, read this forum, and proceeded to make changes accordingly to what the fans want.

fix 0/100 active center differential error next please!
 
Hig-GT
Right so this is the thread for the deluded fans who try to hide the fact that GT5 has flaws and who will defend PD all day long for releasing an unfinished game and for providing us with substandard game play and updates? Right thats good to know, guess I wont be finding balanced discussion here then!

We all know that PD got lazy, didn't think about what they were doing, spent an extra year or so making the game because they hadn't bothered in the time they had previously and well, the rest is a rubbish product really.

I'll just quote a comment that someone made in my thread (the one a few places down that this thread followed, if you go there though you will find balanced discussions) But like a guy said, it is like we've spent however much to do Beta testing for PD so they can perfect GT5 whilst still making money out of us!

But hey, don't worry about it PD, like others have said I am sure that Sony rushed you to get the work done and the game released, I mean, clearly the years you had to make the game just weren't enough ... We all completely understand ... Hey look, someones took my GT5 disc out of my PS3 and inserted GT5 Prologue? I don't remember so much content? Well it all looks the same so I must remember wrong ...
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how many games is your name in the credits of?
 
Hear hear!

I actually thought the big Update Talk was just the usual game company hyperbole. I'm impressed that they've done this and that, presumably, there's more to come.

It puts me in mind of another of my favourite racing titles on another platform... one whose developer has left known faults and problems in since October 2009. I think it was my experience with that title that made me doubt PD, I'm pleased to say that I was wrong.

Well done PD!

Hig=GT
Right so this is the thread for the deluded fans who try to hide the fact that GT5 has flaws and who will defend PD all day long for releasing an unfinished game and for providing us with substandard game play and updates? Right thats good to know, guess I wont be finding balanced discussion here then!

We all know that PD got lazy, didn't think about what they were doing, spent an extra year or so making the game because they hadn't bothered in the time they had previously and well, the rest is a rubbish product really.

I'll just quote a comment that someone made in my thread (the one a few places down that this thread followed, if you go there though you will find balanced discussions) But like a guy said, it is like we've spent however much to do Beta testing for PD so they can perfect GT5 whilst still making money out of us!
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If people say the game is perfect then they're wrong... and if people think that the game industry still works on the principle of fully completed release then they're also wrong.

If you're worried about Beta testing then put your money where your mouth is and go do the job. Then you'll realise how many millions of things you've taken for granted while you played because they worked. We all hate it when something DOESN'T work but hopefully the majority are a little more realistic about the cause/effect/solution.
 
A good update no doubt, but your bit about "without rival" and "king" is laughable and is bound (and already has) to draw some, somewhat rightful, criticism.

A good driving game, and the updates have made it better, but it's far from unrivaled.


notveryhappyjac
how many games is your name in the credits of?
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What does that matter? I can criticize books despite that fact I've never written one, I can review a car even though I don't make them we can critique a game. I don't believe the poster said they could have done better.
Side note: it's "How many games have your name in the credits?".
 
Credit where it's due, there are a lot of new features and fixes in this patch. I'm still not a huge GT5 fan, but there is no denying the pace of these patches, and that the game is getting better with every one of them.
 
I ask the question because 'if' this (highgt) person works in the gaming industry they would have firsthand knowledge how long games take to be released and instantly know why these updates were needed. I too was critical before the 1.05 update of gt5, I was under the assumption that PD took everyones money and ran out on a vacation, which was absolutely not the case, they busted ass putting in dozens of fixes last night on a reletively short notice. If said person had any experience they would understand how many changes go into a game from pre-alpha to beta to shipment, how much testing needs to be done. even simple games take time a lot of time to properly release, porting a game from a windows machine to an xbox takes time (4 months with TL, a turn base action rpg we just sent last week to ms for certification, help an indie-development company out and buy that on XBLA :)) it all takes a lot of time. On top of this, a 5 year dev cycle on one game is absolutely killer job for a human being, try not being burned out working on one title for 6 months let alone 60 months. good luck with that, 3 weeks in I bet hig-gt has zero motivation.

now if I'm missing anything please let me know?
 
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TenEightyOne
If people say the game is perfect then they're wrong... and if people think that the game industry still works on the principle of fully completed release then they're also wrong.

If you're worried about Beta testing then put your money where your mouth is and go do the job. Then you'll realise how many millions of things you've taken for granted while you played because they worked. We all hate it when something DOESN'T work but hopefully the majority are a little more realistic about the cause/effect/solution.
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absolutely true!!
 
Can someone please explain to me why this update is the best thing since sliced bread?. Is is because its changed things for those who race online?. If so then whats it done for those who dont?.

Just curious is all.

Edit: I read on here in another thread that since the update the FF of certain wheels has been dramitically changed and not for the better. Is this true. I have a DFGT and i havnt had chance to try the game since the update.

AngloAmerican
 
notveryhappyjac
I ask the question because 'if' this (highgt) person works in the gaming industry they would have firsthand knowledge how long games take to be released and instantly know why these updates were needed. I too was critical before the 1.05 update of gt5, I was under the assumption that PD took everyones money and ran out on a vacation, which was absolutely not the case, they busted ass putting in dozens of fixes last night on a reletively short notice. If said person had any experience they would understand how many changes go into a game from pre-alpha to beta to shipment, how much testing needs to be done. even simple games take time a lot of time to properly release, porting a game from a windows machine to an xbox takes time (4 months with the game we just sent last week to ms for certification) it all takes a lot of time. On top of this, a 5 year dev cycle on one game is absolutely killer job for a human being, try not being burned out working on one title for 6 months let alone 60 months. good luck with that, 3 weeks in I bet hig-gt has zero motivation.

now if I'm missing anything please let me know?
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Yes, games are hard to make I'm sure. I don't believe GT5 was that much harder to make than any other game. My impression of the game leads me to believe that there were a lot of talented people working on it with poor direction and management. Way too many half finished features made the release. I'd honestly like the game better if there was less "stuff", but it was all finished.

My job is hard too, our products take a good long while to design, prototype and release to the public. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. If we release something that isn't up to the expectations or current standards we can't just say "but it was hard, and you don't understand the process".
 
Right, wrong, should have been there in the first place, stupid oversight/omission, etc - doesn't really matter.

I am just encouraged that the changes made in this update for the most part seem to be directly as a result of feedback from the end users. Be it adding new content, adding content that should have always been there, or fixing stuff that was broke - this update shows that feedback has been taken into consideration.

With that being said, GT5 isn't the end all be all to me - I can't wait to see what Shift 2, Dirt 3, and Forza 4 bring to the table.
 
strtgng
Right, wrong, should have been there in the first place, stupid oversight/omission, etc - doesn't really matter.

I am just encouraged that the changes made in this update for the most part seem to be directly as a result of feedback from the end users. Be it adding new content, adding content that should have always been there, or fixing stuff that was broke - this update shows that feedback has been taken into consideration.

With that being said, GT5 isn't the end all be all to me - I can't wait to see what Shift 2, Dirt 3, and Forza 4 bring to the table.
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Mostly this!

Forza 4's table will be virtual, of course, although you'll be able to walk around it in the game and move stuff about...
 
TenEightyOne
Mostly this!

Forza 4's table will be virtual, of course, although you'll be able to walk around it in the game and move stuff about...
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:sly:

Yeah - the day somebody tells me to just hold my hands in the air and pretend to be using a steering wheel instead of actually using my Fanatec Turbo S is the day I stop playing games. I really don't see Move or Kinect being a large part of racing games in the future. I really hope Turn 10 doesn't spend a whole lot of time perfecting some stupid virtual walk around over tweaking gameplay and physics!
 
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