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What I meant by the Celica being a RWD monster, then turning into an FF teen car:
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Yes I am aware of the All-Trac and the GT-Four and such, but most of the Celicas you see aren't either of those.
 
Anna+Reece
What I meant by the Celica being a RWD monster, then turning into an FF teen car.
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I don't think 180 horsepower puts anything with four wheels on it into Monster Territory, unless it's a shopping cart.
 
It wasn't. And that, technically, wasn't a Celica... it was a Celica Supra. The Supra carried the RWD layout with it when they split... as explained above.

The older TA Celica (before the Celica Supra) was merely a Mustang clone with not enough power to get anyone excited. It was pretty, but it wasn't fast, and it wasn't a monster, and it's no more desirable than an old Datsun 510...
 
Anna+Reece
What I meant by the Celica being a RWD monster, then turning into an FF teen car:

Yes I am aware of the All-Trac and the GT-Four and such, but most of the Celicas you see aren't either of those.
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I know what you meant, I just thought you were talking rubbish.

Aside from the fact that your little comparison missed out two whole generations of Celica, and aside from the fact that it's irrelevant that most of the Celicas you see aren't GT-Fours (because they still exist), and aside from the fact that regardless of who drove them they were still very good cars... Niky has already explained that the RWD line continued with the Supra.

And again, is this just one of those cases of taking issue with something that happened years before you were born, that's never affected you in any way? It sounds more like a generic internet ludditism over something becoming FWD.
 
Anna+Reece
What I meant by the Celica being a RWD monster, then turning into an FF teen car:
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Have you ever driven an old Celica? Or a new one?

The new ones are much quicker and more responsive than any old Celica, which the word Monster could never have been associated with.
 
I think slowly but surely the japanese sports cars are making a comeback (or at least trying to) but would this be just flogging a dead horse? (read that horse thing in a magazine and always wanted to use it!) toyotas got some good concepts and the mazda shinari is awesome! the acura/honda nsx is returning, but mitsubishi says theyre not going to do motorsports anymore!
 
Azuremen
Have you ever driven an old Celica? Or a new one?

The new ones are much quicker and more responsive than any old Celica, which the word Monster could never have been associated with.
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I'm currently barrowing my dad's spare car, a 2003 ZZT230 Celica, while my Tundra is on the disabled list due to an accident (not my fault; just putting that out there). I can testify, despite the FWD, it's still a great handling car that's quite fun to drive! It seems the car didn't get the memo that power to the front wheels equals pure suck.
 
You know, I still don't understand why everyone is complaining about why there's no new Japanese Sports cars.

There's a recession; manufacturers are trying to make sure they don't make losses. Making sports cars which no one will buy will cause massive losses.
The only Japanese Sports cars I can think of that still exist are:
Mazda MX5 - King of fun and the Mitsubishi Evo and Subaru Impreza which are both only successful because they're practical cars (to some extent). These are only popular because there is a market for them, which IMO is also slowly dying.
The GTR is also a Japanese Sports/Super car but is only successful because of how expensive it is - rich people can afford them therefore there's always a market since its good enough.
The MX5 will probably forever go on because the market is there - that's why Toyota launched the GT86 hoping it could compete.

People who complain that there aren't enough cars should either do something about it by buying an old Japanese Sports car, rather than complaining about the lack of.
Manufacturers are only going to make what people need or think that people will want; and there's unfortunately just not enough sales to justify our love for these cars.
 
HDT Commodore
I think slowly but surely the japanese sports cars are making a comeback (or at least trying to) but would this be just flogging a dead horse? (read that horse thing in a magazine and always wanted to use it!) toyotas got some good concepts and the mazda shinari is awesome! the acura/honda nsx is returning, but mitsubishi says theyre not going to do motorsports anymore!
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Mitsubishi has a lot more to worry about than making sports cars or not.

You barely see any new Mitsu on the road today in America.
 

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