JDM is for losers

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Apex Killer

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Flame away but here are my thoughts.

There are all these guys running around building their cars to JDM specs. YOu have all these guys paying CRAZY prices for stuff that if they were in Japan they would be taking off their cars in the first place. Now don't get me wrong. Some of the stuff is cool and doing unique stuff or a small amount of it is cool. But these guys that transform their cars to entire JDM specs are fools. The reason....You are still in the USA driving a RHD car. There have been VERY few LHD conversions in the States. So unless you are going LHD quit being obsessed with this.
 
Originally posted by Apex Killer
Now don't get me wrong. Some of the stuff is cool and doing unique stuff or a small amount of it is cool. But these guys that transform their cars to entire JDM specs are fools.
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Exactly what i always thought. What's the point of a "JDM radio block off plate" or a JDM climate control panel?
 
Sometimes people dont pay outrageous prices for JDM parts for their cars. And whats wrong with JDM when performance wise, its better than our DM? In the end, its their car anways, if they like the way it performs or looks better than stock, then whats the problem with it?
 
Hey PR, what is going on man? Good to see you here.


The whole craze makes NO sense to me. Now what is worse is that there are companies now making knock off bits that look like the JDm parts. Someone is making some cash by selling to sheep.
 
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
Sometimes people dont pay outrageous prices for JDM parts for their cars. And whats wrong with JDM when performance wise, its better than our DM? In the end, its their car anways, if they like the way it performs or looks better than stock, then whats the problem with it?
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If it has a performance advantage, then sure, take it and put it on. Like, for instance, the header found on the 1998 and later Integra Type-R over in Japan is a much better piece than the one we got here, and it's also better than most aftermarket pieces. JDM aftermarket parts are also going like crazy, but that's understandable... They're often better than what we have here.

Hey PR, what is going on man? Good to see you here.
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Nothing too special lately, i'm eagerly awaiting for the GTF to get back online... :lol:
 
PR-I was going to ask when you were going to remove the Ferrari Av. Better luck next year.;)

Like I said in the begining if you are doing a few mods and they make sense then cool. Hell I am even for putting Silvia badges on 240SXs. I am not against the stuff I am against the guys that spend stupid cash building a JDM car and thinking that it's the shizit and in the end it's a regular Civic with a bunch of ad ons. Now if you do all those ad ons and do the RHD conversion you deserve love, if you don't you deserve an ass kick.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Exactly what i always thought. What's the point of a "JDM radio block off plate" or a JDM climate control panel?
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Its to make them feel more special.:P:rolleyes:

And really is there a diffrence between a B16 vtec and a JDM version of it?
 
Well, if you think about how hard it is to have a true Japanese performance car in the states, then why not?
To me, this is better than adding a bunch or rice nonesense to their cars and would rather see a JDM car before I see rice from AutoZone.
Let them do what they want with their cars.
Misnblu
 
Performance car? What are you talking about, they are still Civics, 240SX/Silvias, Intergas and so on. They just have all these parts on them that the Honda company put on and the enthusiasts there took off.

Is it better then ricing a car out? Sure it is but it is kinda the same thing. YOu can't really claim to have a true JDM conversion if you don't go RHD.

I am not stopping anyone from doing what they want, I am just giving my opinion on a craze that I think is a waste of time unless you go ALL the way.
 
Is it better then ricing a car out? Sure it is but it is kinda the same thing. YOu can't really claim to have a true JDM conversion if you don't go RHD.
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It's still better than the bullshirt they use on the cars from AutoZone.
At least with a JDM car, it's true Japanese parts made for the true Japanese cars. To call it a JDM when it is not, same as rice.
To make the car nice and the way you want, then go with the JDM look.
Misnblu
 
Originally posted by xAkirax2004

And really is there a diffrence between a B16 vtec and a JDM version of it?
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I believe the main reason to use a JDM B16 is that we didn't get many of them in the states, I *think* it's easier and cheaper to get one from Japan. I think. There have been B16 civics in Japan since like 88... 91 at the latest maybe, we only got a B16 powered Si coupe for a couple of years.

I don't understand why some people think JDM is automatically better than USDM, although many of the Japanese parts people buy do make sense.
 
Originally posted by Apex Killer
You are still in the USA driving a RHD car. There have been VERY few LHD conversions in the States. So unless you are going LHD quit being obsessed with this.
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i think you got a bit mixed up here ;) .

but i have nothing against people who choose to go JDM with their cars, it's a simple and clean style. i would much rather see a clean JDM car than a riced out car. and now that JDM is a craze over here, companies in Japan now see a market over here so we get more parts that was harder to get before.
 
im with you there mike. JDM is cool if youre doing some things to the car. but when you pay out the @$$ for a near complete conversion to JDM, but dont do the whole thing (like switch the steering wheel!) then its just as bad as something "hooked up" with $h!tty APC parts and nasty bling bling chrome wheels.

performance mods i can understand. but a bumper. steering wheel? dash lights and instruments?
when people go overboard and assume something from somewhere else is better just because its from somewhere else, i want to slap them.

so this is where the GTF refugees hangout.
 
The way i see it

It's their money
They can do whatever the hell they want to their car
If they think it's cool... be happy with it

You don't need to be gay about it:embarrassed:
 
I like jdm... we have different points of view... its like i dont like american car... you may like american cars on the other hand... we are all different....

ROll
 
the statement jdm is for loser... is just wrong... you can say i hate jdm... but jdm is for loser is going too far... meet a guy who like jdm and call him a loser... i doubt ull live long with that additude... if he doesnt do something im sure someone else will.. i disagree with that fact that jdm is for losers... i acutally like it... its different who want to be the same... say if you have a lexus is300 and u convert it to a Toyota symbol and Altezza name... youll be very uniqiue no one will have the same thing you do... and i respect that and if you dont thats still ur voice... and i also respect that but please dont go saying jdm are for losers...

ROll
 
Originally posted by rollazn
i acutally like it... its different who want to be the same... say if you have a lexus is300 and u convert it to a Toyota symbol and Altezza name... youll be very uniqiue no one will have the same thing you do... ROll
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Gee, that is pretty unique. Now you had to spill the beans and everyone with an IS is going to get on Ebay and buy some Altezza badges. It is not unique anymore. I'm not saying it is bad, but if you're buying some JDM badging to be unique, well I've got a one of a kind '98 Civic EX to sell you...just don't put a GTR emblem on it, ok?

What I find so funny about all of this is USDM badging is pretty popular in Japan and I bet there is a post on some board somewhere on the net titled "USDM is for losers".

meet a guy who like jdm and call him a loser... i doubt ull live long with that additude... if he doesnt do something im sure someone else will..
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That is just plain ol' sig worthy.
 
Well I have worked in the import industry for 11 years and own my own company. I know A LOT fo these guys and know them well. The thing is that I can speak my mind to them and have because I can back up what I say. Do they agree? Of course not but that's cool too.

Here is really how it breaks down. You have guys always making fun of riced out stuff. Which 'rice" is where you are trying to be something that you are not, a wannabe. Well the whole JDM thing is the same. You have a guy installing all these parts trying to be something he is not. To get real technical even doing the RHD swap does not complete the job as the chassis and body of the JDM cars are seem welded for strength and to be rigid. The US cars are not done to the same length. So in the end you are still being a wannabe.

Again, don't read into this. I said doing a few mods here and there are cool, even if they are cosmetic mods only. But the guys that go crazy are just nuts.

NISMOFO-I guess I got mixed up:lol:
 
The other thing you must realize is that the JDM parts are slightly different than the American counterparts.
The U.S. has regulations that Japan doesn't have and that is why ppl get the JDM parts, for the differences in design, texture, material, etc.
An example is the Toyota Cavalier tail lenses. Yes, they actually exported the Cavalier to Japan for a couple of years and had slight differences between the US version compared to the Japanese version.
To me, the Toyota Cavalier has much better tail lights than US as they are three color where the US version is only one, maybe two. Trunk lids are lined as the US version is not and little things like that make a US car different than what everyone else has on their US Cavalier.
These are highly sought after parts by some that just want to be different than the rest. Can you blame them??
Misnblu
 
Dude! As I said a few mods here and there are cool as long as you are not trying to build a car you will NEVER have.

Can I blame them? I blame them for driving Cavaliers! There is not a bigger POS in the market. Welll the new Saturn Redline ION is close. The ones Toyota got are crap too. GM should just forget about this market and build trucks. They have no idea what is going on, their SC team is full of fools. At IAS I asked the lead guy for the Redline if the car had LSD and he had no idea what i was talking about. Even said Limitied Slip Differential and he had no idea. But this is a complete seperate thread all together. Hmm.... another thread to get flamed in. I am on it:D
 
Well, the subect is on Jdm and that was my point, not the fact that the Cavies are junk (which they are) or things like that.
Btw, my Cavie will handle with the best of them and keep up with most when it's done, all engine with no boost or n20. I've spent thousands to make it better than the average Cavalier so don't think all Cavaliers are junk or slow. ;)
Besides sticking up for my car, JDM is here to stay.
I wouldn't mind a set of Toyota Cavalier tails, sure beats the Euro crap all else use. :rolleyes:
Lastly, Japan has a big following of the Toyota Cavaliers and are revered like the Skyline is here. Too bad I lost the url for the site to the guys that have Toyota Cavaliers. :(
Misnblu
 
I think 99.9999% of cavaliers are junk. Why start with a Roller Skate if you want to make a BMX bike...you know what I mean...
JDM will be here aslong as there are magazines.. Untill then it won't die. Without the magazines 90% of the kids out there wouldn't be able to tell the difference bwteen JDM Yellow corners and USDM Yellow corners..and people would think JDM FC3S tail lights were just aftermarket lights from a mag.......Just be glad JDM's "craze" is here, that way when you do something subtle to change it people will notice it as apposed to saying it's exactly the same.*-
 
Thank you Drifter and yes, you are right, they build Cavaliers poorly. Mine is different. ;)
It's all good though, when you can keep up with this Cavie in the twisties, track or whereever, then make that statement. Not every Cavalier is a Cavalier. :lol:
Oh, and I agree with you totally on your last statement. If it weren't for the magazines, ppl would be clueless.
Misnblu
 
I have seen some nice Cavs. I did an article one one in the Bay when I was at a magazine. They are not all junk.

As for the taillight issue I know a group in GA real well that import parts all day long. You want me to check into it for you? Do you have the TRD catalog from Japan? OYu can order it from Toyota parts depts. It costs like $30 but has a ton of Cav stuff in it.
 

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