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BAZZER · Mar 25, 2013

The point is that having a 100% wet race won't really make a difference to the race results as everyone will practice in full wet and get upto their respective speeds so when the race comes it'll be the same as running dry but with slower lap times.

On the other hand if its random then you have to make decisions mid race on whether or not you come it for tyres at 30% 40% or 50% water coverage etc. Which will no doubt lead to a very different outcome at the end of the race. It gives the underdog a chance to pull a surprise if you see my point?

rosckolove · Mar 25, 2013

I'm a little confused as to why I am still listed as driving an RX-7. So so long ago I posted in the thread and sent PM's saying I was switching to the Arta. I replied directly to a question in a PM asking what I would be driving, and I brought it up again when ally joined because the Arta list was already full if I was included.

I will be racing this weekend. All my buddies birthdays came in the past 2 weekends.

SkengD · Mar 25, 2013

I think the fun with weather is the unpredictability factor , so you guys would have to work with the changeability option .

KingBestJr · Mar 25, 2013

Any stewards or anybody else in league can add me on psn.

Willfred_1 · Mar 25, 2013

here's an idea for weather
set weather changeability to 5 but start on 75% weather which is rain however start at 100 surface dampness as it could stay wet or dry out quickly

SkengD · Mar 25, 2013

Or change 5 weather 75 surface 75 , so it can either decrease or increase .

freshseth83 · Mar 25, 2013

I don't think we should run 100% wet. I think 50% is a better option for qualifying. Some may choose slicks inters or wets at that level. 100% wet won't throw any dice and is more predictable than a dry qualifying. Then set the race as a chance to rain, not full on rain.

SkengD · Mar 25, 2013

Or maybe for weather races we do qualifying before the race so its the same for everyone .

I think thats probably the best solution for qualifying to make it the same for everyone .

freshseth83 · Mar 25, 2013

If you do 50% wet and change it so weather is 0% change, the track will dry slightly and may favor switching to slicks but a gable is the race conditions. But to be the fairest is to have Q on race day, I agree. If the weather changes people can try different tire compounds.

ZachAK47 · Mar 25, 2013

Me and Joe are just finalising the decision now. Expect the weather status to be updated by the end of the day at the very latest

joetruckv8 · Mar 25, 2013

Just to give you guys a bit of a heads up, we can't run full wet race at 100% surface water for the whole race because this round will end up taking us 3 hrs to complete. If that happens there will be quitters for sure including me since I'm not suppose to be racing this weekend anyways due to my daughter being here. Were looking at starting at 30% surface water which is right at the point were drivers would switch from slicks to inters. And racing on inters is more fun and faster pace then racing on full wets. Actually full wets suck imo. The race will get wetter as the race progresses but right now Zach and I are trying to figure out the right changeabilty setting to run to make sure it doesn't stop raining, but still gets wetter through-out the entire race. Just a reminder to all drivers this will be our longest race by far,...

BAZZER · Mar 26, 2013

Doing what you propose will make it predictable and easy to practice for. If the weather isn't random then its a preset list of instructions that everyone will follow like clockwork! Then if that's the case, what's the point to the weather?

joetruckv8 · Mar 26, 2013

BAZZER
Doing what you propose will make it predictable and easy to practice for. If the weather isn't random then its a preset list of instructions that everyone will follow like clockwork! Then if that's the case, what's the point to the weather?

We declared this a wet race in advance so everybody already knows its going to rain before-hand. The problem that arises is that full wet is too long, and random rain/dry scenario is something that a few drivers insisted just recently on this tread. It was stated in the discussion tread that this was going to be a wet race entirely, just how wet was the determining factor here which we have to play with in a confined amount of time, hence some of the distance being done under partial wet conditions on inters for faster lap times. If you guys want random then I'm fine with that because it will speed up this race to fit our time constraints, but we need more drivers to give feed-back on what they prefer to simulate? Gradual wetness vs random rain and shine?,.. 👍

phil bell · Mar 26, 2013

rosckolove
I'm a little confused as to why I am still listed as driving an RX-7. So so long ago I posted in the thread and sent PM's saying I was switching to the Arta. I replied directly to a question in a PM asking what I would be driving, and I brought it up again when ally joined because the Arta list was already full if I was included.

I will be racing this weekend. All my buddies birthdays came in the past 2 weekends.

Highlighted this again. Joe?

KingBestJr
Any stewards or anybody else in league can add me on psn.

I will add you if I havent already. 👍

joetruckv8 · Mar 26, 2013

phil bell
Highlighted this again. Joe?

I will add you if I havent already. 👍

Roscko has been updated to Team Arta and the latest driver will have to make another car selection. I believe I still have King on my list but I will check and if not I will send one now!!!

Recent News:
The qualifier room will be set to 30% surface water & 75% weather for the start of each drivers qualifier. Changeability will be at 10 since were only clearing 3 laps for qualifying. Overall changeability is still not determined just yet, but we should be landing somewhere between 8/9/10

Willfred_1 · Mar 26, 2013

joe why don't i have any points on the overall table

RodeRuner1967 · Mar 26, 2013

joetruckv8
Just to give you guys a bit of a heads up, we can't run full wet race at 100% surface water for the whole race because this round will end up taking us 3 hrs to complete. If that happens there will be quitters for sure including me since I'm not suppose to be racing this weekend anyways due to my daughter being here. Were looking at starting at 30% surface water which is right at the point were drivers would switch from slicks to inters. And racing on inters is more fun and faster pace then racing on full wets. Actually full wets suck imo. The race will get wetter as the race progresses but right now Zach and I are trying to figure out the right changeabilty setting to run to make sure it doesn't stop raining, but still gets wetter through-out the entire race. Just a reminder to all drivers this will be our longest race by far,...

this sounds good. 👍

For everyone: I will be on for people to do some qualifying starting Thusday morning (PST) and will be on most of the day for it.
Joe & Zach, I'll need to know the changeability by then. You said 8, 9, or 10.
Thank you.

I'll send you a FR also KingBestJr, very nice to have you here. This is a great bunch of racers.

I'm starting this weeks sign up list of driver's who will be at the race on Saturday at Spa.

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ZachAK47 · Mar 26, 2013

I'll do some testing when I finish work to see what changeability works

KingBestJr · Mar 26, 2013

I know this week is spa but since i can't make spa race i ran some laps at Monza with my controller anyone by chance no what a good lap is there.

ZachAK47 · Mar 26, 2013

KingBestJr
I know this week is spa but since i can't make spa race i ran some laps at Monza with my controller anyone by chance no what a good lap is there.

Pole last season was a 1.50.550

KingBestJr · Mar 26, 2013

ZachAK47
Pole last season was a 1.50.550

Oh same settings and hp and weight this season if so im happy i broke onto 1:48's with my controller.

SkengD · Mar 26, 2013

Sounds about right last season was mediums only so thats a good soft time or an exceptional medium time .

ZachAK47 · Mar 26, 2013

SkengD
Sounds about right last season was mediums only so thats a good soft time or an exceptional medium time .

Yeah the only specs changed is the ARTA. Haha I wouldn't put it past king to be that fast on mediums

allyn27 · Mar 26, 2013

Sorry guys, but i got accepted to another drift team. I won't be doing any racing for the time being but i will make my way back because the racing community is so much better than the drifitng one.

KingBestJr · Mar 26, 2013

ZachAK47
Yeah the only specs changed is the ARTA. Haha I wouldn't put it past king to be that fast on mediums

It was on softs but was on the controller which i suck on lol.

freshseth83 · Mar 26, 2013

I love Spa. This race will be the highlight of this season IMO.

KingBestJr · Mar 26, 2013

Ran a 1:50.0 at monza with mediums and controller im a little rusty. These 300 cars so much about momentum.

Im gonna take a guess the arta won the pole last season at monza.

freshseth83 · Mar 26, 2013

Premium Subaru actually. And we were running with ballast so the times were slower.

BAZZER · Mar 26, 2013

Do we have any sort of decision on the weather? I'm pushed for time this weekend as it is so won't be able to practice much. Might not even make the race but there's no point loading up without knowing whats going on.

And here's the info for Monza KingBestJr just so you can see your faster than everyone already lol

ZachAK47 · Mar 26, 2013

BAZZER
Do we have any sort of decision on the weather? I'm pushed for time this weekend as it is so won't be able to practice much. Might not even make the race but there's no point loading up without knowing whats going on.

And here's the info for Monza KingBestJr just so you can see your faster than everyone already lol

Just sent the conditions to joe for approval. He will post when he accepts it