Jules Bianchi passes away following accident at 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix

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Tired Tyres
Code 60 maybe?
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Code 60 needs to happen for a bunch of reasons, but it would certainly have helped here.

A safety car brings with it substantial disruption to the race, so it's understandable why race control is reluctant to deploy it sometimes. Code 60 is easy to deploy, easy to withdraw, and much less disruptive. It is also quicker to take effect, it takes a while before the cars bunch up behind the SC (even though they have deltas to drive to), whereas Code 60 gets an immediate speed reduction through the zone in question.

I'd imagine it would help a lot if any time there was a service vehicle or marshals on track they threw a Code 60 over the sector. It's still possible to get into trouble at 60 kmh, but it's much, much harder. And with the way Code 60 works, there's no incentive to try and blast through at the maximum speed that shows that you're still "taking reasonable caution".

zed300
The cranes should not be needed to be on the track side of the tyre wall.
Cranes can easily reach and carry the distances and weights needed to recover F1 vehicles.

Sad sad day...thoughts are with JB and his family.
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As long as the car is right beside the barrier, they can.

If you have to make sure that every inch of track is reachable by crane from outside the barriers, that's going to get really expensive really fast. It's not that they couldn't do it, it's the cost of setting up 20+ construction cranes per race weekend that will mean that it will never happen.
 
Imari
As long as the car is right beside the barrier, they can.

If you have to make sure that every inch of track is reachable by crane from outside the barriers, that's going to get really expensive really fast. It's not that they couldn't do it, it's the cost of setting up 20+ construction cranes per race weekend that will mean that it will never happen.
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A few 20 tonne mobile cranes, one or two 50 tonne mobiles for good measure

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I have unfortunately just seen a clear picture of the crash. The roll hoop is completely gone.
 
Boy, just goes to show motorsport will never truly be 100% safe. Just hope the guy pulls through, could very well be the end of his racing career just like that.
 
Ninners
Been 20 years I believe.
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Mike Rotch
Or 12 months, depending on how you look at it.
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Senna was the last driver to be taken from us during a Grand Prix weekend,

I believe Mike is referring to Maria Di Villotta? who was tragically taken by her injuries suffered from the accident she had sustained a while before in a testing crash,

There are an endless amount of possibilities and variables that could have led to this accident, we know from research that wet weather does things to these cars that no one can predict or foresee, whilst it just appears that he lost control of the vehicle in slippery conditions, there may have been a fault with the ECU that prevented the car from being completely off throttle whilst he thought he was coasting,

do hope he pulls through though,
 
There's a picture doing the rounds showing just how bad the damage was, the entire roll hoop has completely gone.


EDIT: Sorry, didn't see HSV's post, said the same thing.
 
There's one on youtube where it appears 90% of the car is under the crane and what appears to be the front and rear wheel are almost touching,
 
TDZdave
Senna was the last driver to be taken from us during a Grand Prix weekend,

I believe Mike is referring to Maria Di Villotta? who was tragically taken by her injuries suffered from the accident she had sustained a while before in a testing crash,
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She died from cardiac arrest. She had survived the crash but lost an eye.
 
i hope this means a change to the double waved Yellow rule, at present it means nothing compared to a.normal yellow imo it should be a safety car after a yellow.

Remember the Sutil incident on the start finish line at Germany, double waved yellows there was a complete joke when you have marshalls on the track meters from cars at racing speed.
 
Vinylshark
Kinda strange how the helmet looks untouched. At least for me it does look like nothing hit his helmet.
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We can only see one side, but it's entirely possible the helmet didn't completely shatter and it was just the blunt force of the impact.
 
Yes. TBH I felt relieved looking at the picture becaus apparently the helmet (although we only see one side) is intact. The Doctors hands are on both sides though so I presume the side we don't see is also intact.

Worrying to see the roll hoop collapsed. And the crane's height (from ground to structure) in the background is entirely compatible with it being directy hit by said roll hoop.

My thoughts and prayers go to him abd his family. Hope he pulls through.
 
Do we know that the pictures are revealing actual damage? If I am not mistaken, the crew had to cut through the wreckage to get the driver out. Maybe that's what we are seeing?

Best wishes to Bianchi.
 
hsv
We can only see one side, but it's entirely possible the helmet didn't completely shatter and it was just the blunt force of the impact.
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Of course you can only see one side. But if you look at the car infront and behind him, you would expect the helmet to be hit on top as well. Also the visior looks like it's still in it's orginial position. So for me it looks like there wasn't much contact.
But of course those are just speculations and I don't know how much force the helmet and visior can withstand.
 
Nielsen
Do we know that the pictures are revealing actual damage? If I am not mistaken, the crew had to cut through the wreckage to get the driver out. Maybe that's what we are seeing?

Best wishes to Bianchi.
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The picture looks as though it's straight after the crash, there's only 2 marshals talking to him. I would also guess that they'd cut into the cockpit to extract a driver rather than remove the roll hoop first.
 
The same picture, but with an wider scope, clearly shows the entire back of the went under the crane and got destroyed. The guy in blue (holding Bianchi's head/helmet) is not a marshall, he is the Doctor.
 
Dodzzz
Oh no!! not another comma please...
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*Coma.

They'll probably put him in a coma and refrigerate him after the surgery. That or they have to surgically go in because the cold coma is not an option. Either way, hopefully any brain damage can heal. Poor guy.

It would be easier and cheaper to prevent these kinds of things in the future if the tractors just had fenders to keep the cars from going under them. It's just like the crash bars on the back of semi trailers. Just buy some slat armor from the military and drape it over the sides and rear of the heavy machinery.
 
Just saw the photo from a different angle with the tractor in the picture. The boot lid of the tractor is open (looks like 45 degree angle) and the end of it sticks out quite a bit. If it was open like that the whole time, that maybe could be a reason why the roll hoop is gone. The height could match.
 
Hun200kmh
The same picture, but with an wider scope, clearly shows the entire back of the went under the crane and got destroyed. The guy in blue (holding Bianchi's head/helmet) is not a marshall, he is the Doctor.
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Doesn't that imply that this was one of the best angles he could've gone under the recovery vehicle at? If it was forward-first, there wouldn't be a whole rear end or roll hoop to get hit before his helmet.

Could be wrong, I'm still not entirely sure of the angle/positioning of everything.
 
Sutil said sideways. Indeed, it looks like the entire left side took the hit, and the entire car slid under the tractor.

They could give the tractors skirts made out of tires filled with hay. Low-tech, but they would have really helped in this instance.
 
I was thinking of SAFER barriers/a row of tyres running along the side... basic, but much better than hitting a 90 degree wedge of metal.
 
I just watched the race, Bianchi's crash looked very scary, I hope he fully recovers. Do you think the FIA is going to implement code 60 or have a mandatory safety car anytime an accident happens on track?
 
ukfan758
I just watched the race, Bianchi's crash looked very scary, I hope he fully recovers. Do you think the FIA is going to implement code 60 or have a mandatory safety car anytime an accident happens on track?
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This is something that should have been introduced years ago.
 

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