Jules Bianchi passes away following accident at 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix

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Can someone explain how exactly happened? They never showed the crash at all on ita tv.
Not that i want to see a terrible crash eh, but i really don't know
 
Can someone explain how exactly happened? They never showed the crash at all on ita tv.
Not that i want to see a terrible crash eh, but i really don't know

If I had to guess, he also aquaplaned in the same spot as Sutil but was unlucky enough to go exactly where the JCB was parked.

Here's hoping JB recovers from this accident.
 
If reports from Suzuka are true, that there were no MedEvac helicopters on site, then somebody has some serious explaining to do, this race should not have been started at all.

[update] - It has now been confirmed that MedEvac helicopters were in fact on site, but were unused. The reason for this has not been announced. A MedEvac helicopter went to Mie General Hospital around the same time as the Police escorted ambulance, presumedly in case of a further transfer to the larger Nagoya University Hospital.

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Appendix H of the FIA's Medical Regulations 2.7.3.8 Casualty evacuation service

Particular measures for F1, WTCC and WEC (recommended in other cases):

a)In case of accident, the evacuation procedure is decided by the Chief Medical Officer.b) For evacuating a casualty to hospital, the following must be present on site:

- two medically equipped ambulances for a transfer under intensive care (equipment and presence of a doctor proficient in resuscitation on board). At least one of them must be stationed at the medical centre (see Supplement 5).

- except in case of exemption (cf. e))*, at least one helicopter that is medically equipped and operational at the time it leaves for a transfer under intensive care (equipment in conformity with the requirements of the aviation authority of the country concerned, carrying in particular a fixed stretcher, and with a doctor proficient in resuscitation on board) (see Supplement 5).For events taking place wholly or partly at night, appropriate equipment must be foreseen, including for the hospitals mentioned in the medical questionnaire, except in case of exemption (see point e)).

Each day, the helicopter must be present at its station at least one hour before the start of any timed session, and must not leave the circuit until authorised to do so by the Race Director in consultation with the Chief Medical Officer. This condition also applies to any support events scheduled to take place on the occasion of an FIA World Championship event.


*e) On the joint, co-signed advice of the FIA Medical Delegate and the Race Director, a circuit may be exempted from the presence of a helicopter on site. This exemption may concern all or some of the days of the event. It is valid only for the round of the FIA World Championship that is the subject of the request.
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Summary table of the maximum time authorised for primary hospital transfers under intensive care (except for serious burns) except in a case of force majeure:

Helicopter, to reach each hospital (in normal conditions)
approx.
20 minutes

Ambulance, if the helicopter has left on a mission to transfer a first casualty, to reach the hospital presumed necessary (regardless of the conditions)
approx.
20 minutes

Ambulance under escort in case of helicopter exemption, to reach each hospital (regardless of the conditions)
approx.
20 minutes
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From formula1.com

''At all races, the FIA's chief medical delegate, Doctor Ian Roberts, will be on stand-by at all times in the medical chase car at the end of the pit lane. In this he can be quickly driven to the scene of any major injury. When he arrives at the stricken race car, a warning light system located on the top of cockpit provides an immediate indication of the severity of the accident.

The first port of call for most drivers involved in an accident will be the circuit’s medical centre, which is nothing short of a miniature hospital. It must be equipped with the latest medical devices, including full resuscitation equipment and its own operating theatre, and be manned at all hours by one of three shifts, each including an orthopaedic surgeon, an anaesthetist and six paramedics.

Local hospitals will also be on stand-by during the course of a race so that very serious injuries can be transferred to them if appropriate. A MedEvac helicopter manned by a doctor, two paramedics and a pilot is ready to fly at all times, a second helicopter is kept ready outside the circuit and four additional ambulances are posted around the race track. If conditions are such that a helicopter could not take off from the circuit or land at the hospital, due to fog for example, then the race cannot go ahead.''
 
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It was one of The most horrible accidents I've seen, you know sometimes I don't understand Charlie Whiting at all, he seems to be more concern about the four wheels leaving The track in a battle for positions that sending The SC while a tow is into The track during heavy rain conditions :S
 
All concerns are with Jules, and I hope he makes a full recovery! Even with the best possible outcome, this could have a huge affect on his racing career, and this is proving to be a very dark day for F1 and the FIA. The conditions got pretty bad towards the end, and the race really should have gone back under safety car conditions even before Sutil's incident. They knew things were getting severe, because I believe they disabled DRS. They knew cars were having tons of trouble with DRS deployed, so they were already playing with fire.

There are conflicting reports of the whole MedEvac helicopter as well, but if those are the rules, then they have LOTS of explaining to do. It's unfortunate that it takes an incident like this to either change rules, or change who is responsible for enforcing them.

EDIT: Seems like that link goes to the Marussia website, but it's probably quite busy at the moment.
 
If I had to guess, he also aquaplaned in the same spot as Sutil but was unlucky enough to go exactly where the JCB was parked.
The JCB was not parked, but, ironically, only a few meters/seconds way from a safe place.
 
i hope this means a change to the double waved Yellow rule, at present it means nothing compared to a.normal yellow imo it should be a safety car after a yellow.

Remember the Sutil incident on the start finish line at Germany, double waved yellows there was a complete joke when you have marshalls on the track meters from cars at racing speed.

That`s the source of the problem. Drivers, FIA and teams not caring about flag and SC rules.

For years now you could regulary see cars racing into the pits, when the SC hits the track, so they can jump cars ahead of them who already passed the pit entry when the SC entered the track. And whenever the FIA allows lapped cars to overtake the cars ahead of them, those lapped cars are going flat out too.

My solutions:
Bring back the rule which closed the pit entry whenever a SC hits the track. So nobody can gain advantage by ignoring flag rules. Then open the pit lane when the whole field is behind SC. Back then when this rule was still in active it was a huge problem because cars had to refuel during races (Crashgate :( ). Nowdays they don`t have to anymore, even when their tyres are at the end of their life cycle its no issue to drive at SC speed until pit lanes opens.
Lapped cars should no longer be allowed to unlap.

Second, enforce speed limits at double yellow zones. Not only it would make racing less dangerous, it is something your average tv viewer understands. A 100km/h speed limit is a much better way to communicate FIA`s road safety program then "Bernie says think before you brib- uhm drive" banners.
If your average joe sees the F1 drivers following traffic rules, he might do the same next time he starts his car.

Just my 2c.
 
It seems to be a link that goes toa story on the Marussia F1 website, but I'm assuming it's a bit busy to access. Can't even access the website itself.

Please find to follow the content of a media statement issued by Matteo Bonciani, FIA Formula One Head of Communications & Media Delegate, earlier today.

We ask for your understanding that there is no further information at this time.

FIA Statement in full

Suzuka, October 5th - On lap 42, Adrian Sutil lost control of his car, spun and hit the tyre barrier on the outside of Turn 7. The marshals displayed double waved yellow flags before the corner to warn drivers of the incident. A recovery vehicle was despatched in order to lift the car and take it to a place of safety behind the guardrail. While this was being done the driver of car 17, Jules Bianchi, lost control of his car, travelled across the run-off area and hit the back of the tractor.

Once the marshals reported that the driver was injured, medical teams were despatched and the Safety Car was deployed. These were followed by an extrication team and an ambulance.

The driver was removed from the car, taken to the circuit medical centre and then by ambulance to Mie General Hospital.

The CT scan shows that he has suffered a severe head injury and he is currently undergoing surgery. Following this he will be moved to intensive care where he will be monitored.

Mie General Hospital will issue an update as soon as further information becomes available.
 
According to French sports newspaper L'Equipe and a few other sources, Bianchi is out of surgery and does not need life support.
Amazing really happy to hear it :)
 
Glad to finally see and hear some good news! I hope he makes a somewhat full recovery.
 
Every driver should just copy what Button does when it comes to decision making in the wet, it was a decent race up to the crash, hopefully Bianchi continues to recover and we can see him racing again in the near future.
 
I hope Jules is OK... I think we will see Alexander Rossi in his seat for some races if Jules is not going to race again this year.
 
AJ
If reports from Suzuka are true, that there were no MedEvac helicopters on site, then somebody has some serious explaining to do, this race should not have been started at all.

I was watching Sky... they saw the medical helicopter and it lifted off to follow Bianchi's ambulance to the hospital. I presumed at the time that Bianchi was being worked on and that the helicopter didn't offer enough room for treatment during the transfer.
 
That was most likely the reason for using the ambulance, or they didn't want to risk the possibility of the wind affecting the flight of the helicopter while they are giving treatment to Bianchi.
 
There are so many different reports coming from different sources. I'm not sure if I can listen to much that isn't an official release.
 
Stick to posting confirmed/official reports, please.
 
Well I don't really want to comment on the race, or start playing a blame game until we hear some good news about Jules.
Thoughts go out to Jules, his family and the team. Fingers crossed for a full and speedy recovery.
 
Apparently from latest french and italian sources, his health condition has been deteriorated during these last hours
Don't take as reliable info, all media information should be taken as "rumors" except from FIA/Marussia official announcements
 
AJ
If reports from Suzuka are true, that there were no MedEvac helicopters on site, then somebody has some serious explaining to do, this race should not have been started at all.
There were helicopters on site. This sounds like a stupid, alarmist, knee-jerk reaction to the medical officials taking the decision to transport Bianchi to hospital by road. The hospital is only ten miles from the circuit, so going by road would actually be faster than going by air.
 
this is a few hours old at this point but atleast has an update stating he had been moved to the ICU after surgury, and he was still breathing on his own.

There is also a picture from a distance where you can see the cars resting position... aswell as a link to a closer shot that was not comforting to see, tho not really graphic... so you have been warned.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/b...urgery-as-more-details-regarding-crash-emerge
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As for the helicopters they said at the end of the broadcast the helicopters where unable to fly due to the typhoon winds coming in...IMO thats just another reason they SHOULD HAVE raced early as they talked about on the broadcast
 
There were helicopters on site. This sounds like a stupid, alarmist, knee-jerk reaction to the medical officials taking the decision to transport Bianchi to hospital by road. The hospital is only ten miles from the circuit, so going by road would actually be faster than going by air.

I waited for 2 sources, which were credible, but in this case perhaps wrong.

I did preface my post with 'if the reports are true', as it seemed remarkable to me that they would be, given the regulations, and 2 incidents in the last year; firstly with the WTCC at Sochi when a session had to be suspended due to the airspace being temporally closed. And at the Spa 24, where following an incident the race had to remain red flagged until the helicopter returned.

With any serious injury, but in particularly head injuries, minimising the time before treatment is critical. It is rare that by helicopter is not the quickest form of medical evacuation.

Looking at maps of the area, you can see that the route by road to Mie General is very straight forward, but even with police escort would be close to the 20 minute maximum time authorised for primary hospital transfers.

My intention was not to be alarmist, but to draw attention to the fact that an unusual procedure has been employed, for whatever reason.
 
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