Kaz just said that we can expect many updates in the next weeks/months...

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PzR Slim
Hmm, seems to me you were pinning the blame squarely on PD's shoulders in this post.



And that post was in no way ignorant or hypocritical. I bought my turbo s over a year ago and can remember back then when researching wheels that people were reporting problems with the turbo and PS3 compatability.
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Fanatec are responsible for the false advertisement! and I think PD overlooked the 911 turbo.
No matter what people have said, Fanatec state on their official website "The Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel is compatible with all games which support Force Feedback steering wheels."
The fact that this is completely false proves that this is false advertisement
 
Mahi_F1
I bought it in February and of course I'm blaming fanatec for the false advertisement. Even if there is info to be found in regard to it's non comparability they're still in violation and advertisement rules as that info is still on their website. At the time of purchase, I was falsely told that my product will be compatible with all PS3 games which support ffb.
And the fact that I'm posting this on this thread is that I want to raise this to PD's attention so they can hopefully add the PWT compatibility in a future update.

Btw this was just ignorant and hypocritical:
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I understand you very well. When the first guy in this forum told us that his Fanatec wheel does not work, I was also blaming Fanatec for their false advertising. But my post was deleted by the moderators (I think), it is a real shame.

The problem with Fanatec is, that Logitech has a more or less exclusive partnership with PD. So it is unlikely that you will ever get the same support for your Fanatec wheel as we get for our logitech ones (I'v got the G27).

Another problem is, that just very few people have premium wheels like the Fanatec ones and the G27. PD is concentrating on cheap wheels, but updates in the future could change this.

But one thing is totally clear: that Fanatec has made false advertising, saying that they would support GT5 100%. I can understand your anger
 
Mahi_F1
Fanatec are responsible for the false advertisement! and I think PD overlooked the 911 turbo.
No matter what people have said, Fanatec state on their official website "The Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel is compatible with all games which support Force Feedback steering wheels."
The fact that this is completely false proves that this is false advertisement
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When did I say they hadn't? All I said was you were initially blaming the wrong people and that there was plenty info around the web discussing the issue. Your time would be better spent arguing the toss with Thomas at Fanatec than forum users at GT Planet.
 
Mahi_F1
Maybe you should do some research. look at this: http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=213&lang=
"Playstation®3
The Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel is compatible with all games which support Force Feedback steering wheels."
What does that tell you eh????
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Key benefits

* The original reproduction of a 911 leather steering wheel gives you the genuine Porsche feeling
* Wireless USB technology which provides latency free signal transmission to the PC/Console and is very robust against interference (Power supply to wheel still needed)
* 3 Force Feedback motors and smooth belt drive deliver sensational realism
* Authentic wireless pedals with clutch and soft-stop brake
* Two gear sticks included: 6+1 Speed H-pattern and sequential
* Compatible with PC and Playstation®3 (6+1 gear stick is only supported on PC and Playstation®3)

http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=210&lang=


You want more???
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Product Comparison http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm
In their product comparison they wrote that the target customer for the PWT is 'Advanced PS3 Users' yet it's not even fully compatible with the PS3.
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At the time of printing it WAS compatible with all FF games on those platforms. When do you ever see any company guarantee FUTURE compatibility with as yet unreleased products in the high tech sector?
 
Mahi_F1
Fanatec are responsible for the false advertisement! and I think PD overlooked the 911 turbo.
No matter what people have said, Fanatec state on their official website "The Porsche 911 Turbo Wheel is compatible with all games which support Force Feedback steering wheels."
The fact that this is completely false proves that this is false advertisement
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Wuestenmaus
I understand you very well. When the first guy in this forum told us that his Fanatec wheel does not work, I was also blaming Fanatec for their false advertising. But my post was deleted by the moderators (I think), it is a real shame.

The problem with Fanatec is, that Logitech has a more or less exclusive partnership with PD. So it is unlikely that you will ever get the same support for your Fanatec wheel as we get for our logitech ones (I'v got the G27).

Another problem is, that just very few people have premium wheels like the Fanatec ones and the G27. PD is concentrating on cheap wheels, but updates in the future could change this.

But one thing is totally clear: that Fanatec has made false advertising, saying that they would support GT5 100%. I can understand your anger
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+1. I'd be pretty PO'ed if my wheel that I pretty much bought to play GT5 wasn't compatible, if the company promised GT5 compatibility. 👎 But I have a feeling Fanatec will blame Sony and Sony will blame Fanatec. Best bet might be to sell the Fanatec and get a G27 or a DFGT.

ShylockHolmes
At the time of printing it WAS compatible with all FF games on those platforms. When do you ever see any company guarantee FUTURE compatibility with as yet unreleased products in the high tech sector?
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Not sure why it's the end user's fault if the company didn't deliver? It's reasonable to expect that a wheel manufacturer would want to ensure that its product is compatible with an extremely popular racing game. If it couldn't promise compatibility, then why not refrain from promising at all? Just say you don't guarantee compatibility.
 
Mahi_F1
I bought it in February and of course I'm blaming fanatec for the false advertisement. Even if there is info to be found in regard to it's non comparability they're still in violation and advertisement rules as that info is still on their website. At the time of purchase, I was falsely told that my product will be compatible with all PS3 games which support ffb.
And the fact that I'm posting this on this thread is that I want to raise this to PD's attention so they can hopefully add the PWT compatibility in a future update.

Btw this was just ignorant and hypocritical:
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False advertisement? Good luck with that. The wheel works with PS3 games, not all of them, but then again the advertisement for the wheel does not say it works with all games.
 
If you think you'll win a false advertisement case, you need your head checked. Just admit you bought an inferior product, sell it, but a DFGT and move on, or G27 if a clutch is of over the top importance.
 
Kaz interview

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-25-kazunori-yamauchi-interview-interview

Let's hope they listen

Kazunori Yamauchi: Of course that's true and it would have been nice to have more time, but at one point we have to release the game because my imagination alone is not enough to make the game evolve to where we want it to go. We really need to listen to the voice of our citizens and see what they want out of the experience and evolve with that.

Eurogamer: On a specific note, will you be adding online matchmaking soon?

Kazunori Yamauchi: In this release we focused on the features that allow close friends to race together. Online updates are planned of course for leaderboard and matchmaking - [they're] all planned in the process of evolution.

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Kazunori Yamauchi: Yesterday the online service was kind of in a critical state. The data centre was set up to handle 500,000 connections but the number of connections we received greatly exceeded that amount and there was a high chance of experiencing problems as a result.

The design of the GT game really integrates the online and offline parts. So the problems online actually affected the offline play as well. Right now we've changed the number of simultaneous connections that are possible to one million, doubling the number, and we're trying to gauge what will happen, but we don't know at this point in time.

We also received a lot of demands for having more regulations placed on the online play. We're going to perform an update on the 27th that will include things like max power restrictions and weight restrictions. It's like a living creature, dynamically growing as we speak.
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More cars. I want more premium cars of the American and European variety.
 
I wonder where do Kaz/PD read user feedback. It would be nice to have a more direct way to submit suggestions/comments to them. Maybe even filling in surveys.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
I wonder where do Kaz/PD read user feedback. It would be nice to have a more direct way to submit suggestions/comments to them. Maybe even filling in surveys.
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The best ideas and features come from the people that don't know they're being watched. 👍
 
boomee
More cars. I want more premium cars of the American and European variety.
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Well in my opinion we have far more important gameplay features that need sorting. I shall list these in priority.

1. Really need to allow us to back up our saves. Chance of my fat PS3 lasting another 3yrs is slim.

2. Need leaderboards. These will prolong the lifespan for years.

3. Allow us to simply send game invites. As I understand you create a private room by selecting My lounge and then you need your friends to join my session. This is a real pain because I would have to send a message to each friend telling them im creating a room in my lounge.

After setting up a room earlier I really miss Xbox live and how you can be in party chat and simply send an invite to all friends by inviting the party to game.
 
There are plenty of people discussing about features and improvements that I'm sure PD will never be aware of ("obscure"/private boards, forums in languages other than english/japanese, people who don't write in message boards, etc). I think PD should take better advantage of the PS3 Internet connectivity in order to receive more direct user feedback. Even online surveys (which could be translated in several languages, breaking the language barrier) would be great.
 
Some of the returning tracks look like they've simply been upgraded to HD, by using better quality textures(deep forest and trial mountain, for instance). I'm not complaining about it because they look fine to me and are fun to race on. However, if that's all they are, why couldn't they include all the GT4 tracks, or at least more of them? They included standard cars, why not include standard courses? Maybe they held some back so they could sell them to people later on in some kind of DLC classic track pack. Am I the only one who thinks they look like standard courses?
 
Uracat
Some of the returning tracks look like they've simply been upgraded to HD, by using better quality textures(deep forest and trial mountain, for instance). I'm not complaining about it because they look fine to me and are fun to race on. However, if that's all they are, why couldn't they include all the GT4 tracks, or at least more of them? They included standard cars, why not include standard courses? Maybe they held some back so they could sell them to people later on in some kind of DLC classic track pack. Am I the only one who thinks they look like standard courses?
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Nah you are not the only one. They do look like and they are the standard "old" tracks and I really think they gonna do the microsoft thing of putting up more tracks and cars for download maybe even for cash :nervous:
 
I agree, Trial Mountain is probably the worst looking track in the game. The textures are better than GT4, but not even that by that much for many of them. Everything else looks similar. Deep Forest I thought was quite a bit better, but probably still the same story.

I guess with some of the tracks new to GT4 that used the stunning back drops (El Capitan for example) they couldn't get the same easy port over effect. Hopefully they recreate these tracks and release them as DLC.
 
Gran Turismo 5 is glorious...it brings joy into my life in between studying for exams.:)

Also, did any of you guys have really good opponents for the intermediate gravel rally in the special events? For some reason, my opponents in the gravel section can destroy Loeb, but for some reason I can beat them by over a minute total in the snow and tarmac rallies. Glitch or just luck of the draw?

Edit: After racing modifying my S15 Silvia, I hope PD updates the other Premiums to get racing modifications. An MP4-12C in full on racer package sounds delicious.
 
II IVORBIGUN II
Well in my opinion we have far more important gameplay features that need sorting. I shall list these in priority.

1. Really need to allow us to back up our saves. Chance of my fat PS3 lasting another 3yrs is slim.

2. Need leaderboards. These will prolong the lifespan for years.

3. Allow us to simply send game invites. As I understand you create a private room by selecting My lounge and then you need your friends to join my session. This is a real pain because I would have to send a message to each friend telling them im creating a room in my lounge.

After setting up a room earlier I really miss Xbox live and how you can be in party chat and simply send an invite to all friends by inviting the party to game.
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1. and 3. are features related to Sony PlayStation (PSN) as a whole and have nothing to do with Polyphony. Kaz has confirmed we are getting leaderboards and matchmaking. IMO matchmaking is whats going to give this game tremendous life. It will basickly be GT mode online, witch is what I expected from day ,1 but later is better then never. Sony is supposedly going to add cloud based saves as a feature of they're PlayStation Plus service for PSN, then you will be able to back up your saves, but you have to subscribe to PlayStation Plus, basicly there version of Live. As soon as cloud based saves are arvailable I'm going to sign up for PlayStation Plus.
 
Might make a petition tomorrow about saving and backing up our saved game data. Do not want to lose so much data already...I'll see how people react and take into consideration, if so it will be after 5:00pm English time I'll do it. Other than not being able to simply back up the save data i'm loving gt5.

EDIT: I'll make it quickly now:)
 
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jeffreypang911
So whats the point in GT6 if they just can keep DLCing GT5?

I just got the game- weather or not it will be good or not I purchased it so Ill get my moneys out of it.

No one forced anyone to purchase the game. If you don't like it- please look into FM3. Maybe it might fulfill what you look for in a racing sim.
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I think that depends what console they decide to release GT6 on. The two significant comments that spring to mind are that Kaz is unsure if GT6 will be released on PS3 or PS4 and that GT6 will be released much sooner than GT5 because it is building on the GT5 engine. If GT6 is nothing more than GT5 with upgrades and released on the PS3, like you I can't see the point. If they continue to improve GT5 regularly and indefinitely as Kaz seems to be suggesting at the moment I can only see the point of GT6 if it is a PS4 release and the significant upgrades are beyond the capabilities of the PS3.
 
Seems like PD were in a cave and missed all the enhancements in online gaming and racing sims over the years. NO EXCUSE after 5 years to still have really no damage, and at times Ps2 like textures and shadows on the PS3, launch with online in bad shape, not much tuning, customization......................

Sony cant be happy, this is their flagship franchise for the PS3. What were PD doing? Obviously had technical issues they could not overcome. PS4 has to be easier to design for, this is Sony's fault if anything IMO.
 
In my opinion, the biggest problem that needs to be fixed is the fact that some (or possibly ALL) cars are problematic with regards to tuning. I made a post about this in the tuning section's "premium upgrades" thread, but basically, when making tuning adjustments to my evo X in an attempt to combat the attrocious understeer that it has (which is completely unrealistic, BTW), I noticed that no matter what I do to the settings, nothing changes the behavior of the car.

Suspension settings, center diff settings, lsd settings... nothing. I even went to the extreme of running absurd settings like MAX SOFT on EVERYTHING in the front and MAX STIFF on everything in the rear, and nothing. Even with the center diff set to 90% rear, and as much toe out as I could put in the rear, the car still understeers. Hell, even from a dead stop, full lock to one side, e-brake held and clutch dumped at redline, the car won't even step the rear out! It just plows forward like a fwd car!

So, it would appear that the tuning settings don't, in fact, do ANYTHING! They are just there for show. Now so far, this is the only car that I have modified, so I am not sure if this is just a glitch with this one car, of if this problem is universal for all of the cars, but this is very disappointing. This ruins the whole point of the game, for christ's sake. If this doesn't get fixed ASAP, I'm trading this in and going back to forza. While far from perfect, at least you can properly tune and set up the cars. After 6 years of development and a 70 million dollar budget, this game is very disappointing. Maybe sony should contract turn 10 for their next platform...
 
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Bump. Can anyone confirm that the issue I posted about above is occuring for other cars as well? I've already seen some unusual issues being talked about in the tuning section's "premium car upgrades" thread, but would like to hear from more people.
 

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