KY Confirms GT6 In Development Already

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JDFSSS
I feel like there's no reason for a GT6 on the PS3. I think they are pushing the PS3 to its limit and there's not much they can add without taking away from something else.
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Trying to reach graphical limits has resulted to short comings of GT5. I do not want this to happen again.

PD of course don't have enough people. E.g. the studio(From Software) that did Demons Souls employs 200 people but the game sold significantly less. Of course From Software does also other games but larger bunch of people gives more possibilities to allocate resources. If I was director of PD I would hire more people but at the same time I would sell unused modelling talent of PD to other Sony companies to make better use of skills and also keeping everybody employed when there is not much to do with GT.
 
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noisiaturismo
But still we have PS2's being sold and having new games still?

There is nobody saying the PS3 is going to die. The PS2 is still for sale and the PS3 is also still strong, the Wii, DS and PSP aren't anymore that new though and have been replaced. And even if the PS3 will die on a weird way, GT6 will in that case be multi-platform, PD won't just let all PS3 owners pay again.

Math: PD started working in Summer 2010. PD is now working 1,5 years on it. GT4 came in 2004 and GT3 in 2001. 545 cars were added in GT4 and a lot of other major things changed. The long development time for GT5 (which took a stunning 3,5 years! OMG!) also could have been tests for GT6. So when will GT6 with only like 300 new cars and like 15-25 new tracks come out? Late 2013?
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It's amazing that the PS2 is still for sale, but that is purely to give fans a chance to play their old games if their old PS2 stops working (and if they don't have a early model PS3 which can run PS2 games). As far as I know there are no games developed for it since '09, or am I incorrect?

So this doesn't mean when PS4 releases the PS3 drops dead... they'll be the same 2 year phase out, but big titles like Gran Turismo WILL be exclusive and not multi-platform. This is how you do business, but at the same time give the multi-platform option with other games that have less hardware demand to not leave people angry and forced to upgrade.

PD will not give us a scaled down version of of GT6 for PS3, it will make them look bad, and if they did, I think people would quickly learn how much smoother the game runs on the new hardware and save some money and upgrade. We have internet these days, and DLC is the best thing that could happen to keeping GT5 exciting.

As much as people whine about GT5 being a half-assed game, and that we deserve a GT6 soon to make up for it... I think the 6+ million copies sold speak for themselves as to how much money has been made (again).

~2 years is still a while, so I don't see why people are seeing this as if it's Waaaay too early for something new. I would gladly buy the new console.... PS3 is still an awsome machine, but hardly as awsome as it was in '06. Now there's BluRay drives in entry level laptops and graphics/processing hardware has become massively cheaper.
 
They've been working on GT6 since 1992. Shocking.

No doubt there's a load of prototypes and half-finished features sitting on the cutting room floor, as it were, that didn't make it into GT5 (or any other game before) that could easily constitute a new feature or three in the next game, given more time, polish and hardware resources.

I'd expect it to be a launch title for the PS4 if that arrives before 2014, otherwise I'd wholly expect another full iteration on the PS3, or at least lots of DLC / expansions.
 
Toronado
They can put all of that stuff into GT5 through patches. At that point though, why would anyone buy GT6?
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Even if GT6 will be on PS3:
  • The physics engine will be improved.
  • The graphics will be improved.
  • Races may be expanded to 20 cars or more.
  • Time of day and weather will most likely be on all tracks, and improved.
  • There will be desirable exclusive content.
  • There will be new ways to enjoy the game, such as a better Course Maker, improved Photo Mode and perhaps Movie Maker, etc.
  • Online structure will be expanded.
  • More races, (expanded) Livery Editor, (expanded) modification options, Race Mod for all cars, etc. More things to do with your car.
  • More goodies.
I wouldn't write anything off for GT5. This is SONY's money maker right now, alongside Uncharted and the other holiday heavy hitters, obviously. But GT5 is going to sell for years to come, and making it an attractive package against competition through that time until GT6 arrives makes business sense. GT6 will have plenty to make it a must buy for millions on its own.
 
Tenacious D
Even if GT6 will be on PS3:
  • The physics engine will be improved.
    [*]The graphics will be improved.
    [*]Races may be expanded to 20 cars or more.
    [*]Time of day and weather will most likely be on all tracks, and improved.
  • There will be desirable exclusive content.
  • There will be new ways to enjoy the game, such as a better Course Maker, improved Photo Mode and perhaps Movie Maker, etc.
  • Online structure will be expanded.
  • More races, (expanded) Livery Editor, (expanded) modification options, Race Mod for all cars, etc. More things to do with your car.
  • More goodies.
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That and still have the game running at 60fps is probably not possible on the PS3.
 
Strittan
Tenacious D
Even if GT6 will be on PS3:
  • The physics engine will be improved.
  • The graphics will be improved.
  • Races may be expanded to 20 cars or more.
  • Time of day and weather will most likely be on all tracks, and improved.
  • There will be desirable exclusive content.
  • There will be new ways to enjoy the game, such as a better Course Maker, improved Photo Mode and perhaps Movie Maker, etc.
  • Online structure will be expanded.
  • More races, (expanded) Livery Editor, (expanded) modification options, Race Mod for all cars, etc. More things to do with your car.
  • More goodies.

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I'd say those are not possible and still have the game running at 60fps on the PS3.
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Only the 20 car field would pose any real challenge to maintaining 60 Hz. The graphics are already improved since the launch, and they've once again stepped up their content creation skills (think GT4's tracks vs. those in GT3; think Spa). Physics have been improved; the rest don't actually pertain to the "in-game" racing portion.

I don't expect all of those things to happen for GT5, but they're certainly technically feasible.
 
occasionalracer
It's amazing that the PS2 is still for sale, but that is purely to give fans a chance to play their old games if their old PS2 stops working (and if they don't have a early model PS3 which can run PS2 games). As far as I know there are no games developed for it since '09, or am I incorrect?

So this doesn't mean when PS4 releases the PS3 drops dead... they'll be the same 2 year phase out, but big titles like Gran Turismo WILL be exclusive and not multi-platform. This is how you do business, but at the same time give the multi-platform option with other games that have less hardware demand to not leave people angry and forced to upgrade.

PD will not give us a scaled down version of of GT6 for PS3, it will make them look bad, and if they did, I think people would quickly learn how much smoother the game runs on the new hardware and save some money and upgrade. We have internet these days, and DLC is the best thing that could happen to keeping GT5 exciting.

As much as people whine about GT5 being a half-assed game, and that we deserve a GT6 soon to make up for it... I think the 6+ million copies sold speak for themselves as to how much money has been made (again).

~2 years is still a while, so I don't see why people are seeing this as if it's Waaaay too early for something new. I would gladly buy the new console.... PS3 is still an awsome machine, but hardly as awsome as it was in '06. Now there's BluRay drives in entry level laptops and graphics/processing hardware has become massively cheaper.
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The PS2 and games will continue to be manufactured until demand for both stops. Sony originally intended for it to be 2012 but then changed it to what I just said.
 
Griffith500
Only the 20 car field would pose any real challenge to maintaining 60 Hz.
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I kind of had a brain hiccup there, mushing together thoughts of a GT5.4 or whatever Spec version with GT6. With GT5, the engine could be tweaked to take advantage of a field with a mix of Premiums and Standards. With fewer Premiums, more cars could be on track at once. But I expect GT6 to have nothing but Premium content, and locations from previous GTs brought up to Premium levels where it mattered. Still, with a fine tuned game engine taking maximum advantage of those seven available cores in the Cell, a GT6 on PS3 could surprise us with what it can do. I do expect to see it on PS4.

As for PS2, it's still much too popular around the world, and will continue to sell until it crosses some price/profit point for a sales quarter or two. The same with PS3, which is still immensely powerful and will likely sell for more than a decade.
 
I'm not holding my breath for GT6...

I will however anticipate GT5 getting the shaft for updates and DLC because they've focused their developers on GT6. That seems about par for the course.
 
occasionalracer
It's amazing that the PS2 is still for sale, but that is purely to give fans a chance to play their old games if their old PS2 stops working (and if they don't have a early model PS3 which can run PS2 games). As far as I know there are no games developed for it since '09, or am I incorrect?
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You are incorrect.

Fifa 12 was released just last month on the PS2. Just to give one example.
 
I just said that Sony plans on making them until demand stops. They've said that on several occasions.
 
This is good. They should try updating the game but everything cannot be fixed via updates. I am pretty sure there will be another GT on PS3 if not GT6 then GT6P
 
HKS racer
Take away B-spec, photomode locations, horn chips, most of the standard cars.

Give me 20 more tracks, improved sounds, a livery editor, faster AI in Aspec, RM convertions for all premium models, race weekends, custom championships, proper FOV adjustements, 50 standard cars converted to premium (LMP, JCGT, Caterham, Formula GT). Night/day transitions on all tracks, flag rules. Same engine, same graphic, same console.
Epic win if you ask me.
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Sounds okay, but I don't think PD would release GT6 with less cars and less features than GT5.
 
"what really will be the separating factor is something that we can’t update through a DLC is something that obviously has to be saved for GT6. Things that we can provide through DLC we will, so that’s really the market difference." (KY)

From reading this, it sounds like his intention is for GT6 to provide new big features that can't be patched into GT5.
 
Slurm
"what really will be the separating factor is something that we can’t update through a DLC is something that obviously has to be saved for GT6. Things that we can provide through DLC we will, so that’s really the market difference." (KY)

From reading this, it sounds like his intention is for GT6 to provide new big features that can't be patched into GT5.
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Yes, my interpretation is the same.
Maybe the possibility to drive Motorcycles.
 
elston87
I agree too...

And if you think about it:

PS1 = GT1, GT2
PS2 = GT3, GT4
PS3 = GT5, GT6?
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I hope not. GT5 already maxed out the PS3 and IMO I feel like it would be a waste if we can't get the most out of GT6 because of the platform.
 
another_jakhole
The obvious distinctions between the two: one game had cars that took 2 days (up from 1 day with GT1) and the other HAS detail.

More than half of the PD team, about 60%, works on modelling cars and tracks, by the way. I read this in an interview made some time ago. I can't find the source.
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Yeah, but we won't be needing 400 extra cars like we had from GT1 and GT2. If you look at FM4, it only has about 100? new cars, and only like 5? new tracks. Yet, the game did great. I think some people need to realize how far a totally new game structure can go in terms of giving us a whole new, worthy experience, even if there aren't hundreds of new cars and tracks.

If I had the choice, I'd very much rather pay 60 dollars for many new cars and tracks with a whole new game structure and experience, than to pay 60 dollars by DLC for GT5 where it would have limited use.

Raitziger
Just like GT3 maxed out PS2. But because I do not need other driving game for awhile, I am OK with PS4 release.
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I think it's pretty clear GT3 did not max out the PS2, especially on the fact that GT4 had major graphical improvements in several areas, and the fact that GT3 released very early in the PS2's life.

Also, if GT6 is to be released, it would probably be at least 2013. In that time, we'll all be needing a new GT6. However, there are also rumors that the PS4 might release in the same year too. That's why there's this whole discussion on whether or not GT6 should be for the PS4 or PS3.
 
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Toronado
You act as if you have proof.
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You're right, maybe I'm being a bit of PS4 fanboy here, but in all honesty I can't stand people dreaming of another GT title on PS3. What's it worth to improve the game's structure with a bunch of extra tracks/cars when we have people complaining about fps drops, blocky shadows/smoke, online issues, ect. all stemming from hardware limitations?

Why can't people be happy with the great game we have and the fact it will be getting a lot of support still? Every 2 months not enough? (although I'm not gonna believe it 'til I see it...lol)

The thread is about GT6 development being confirmed (which wasn't really news) and as we know almost all GT5 content w/o standards (hopefully it will be thing of the past by then) will be in GT6, there is not much else that can be said except "PD, spend your DLC profits wisely on resources and work away like there's no tommorrow".

Of course if PD is short of ideas, they can always browse around these forums and pick out a couple of the trillion wishlists... but I'm sure on top of obvious complaints/wishes, Kaz and Co. have some ideas and goals nobody has thought of yet. Like I said before, I think PD is much more comfortable with all the programming and I pray that PD works closely alongside Sony while they put together their PS4 hardware so that by release time it will be perfect for running Gran Turismo in it's full glory.

At the end of the day, this is a racing game... how much different can it get? I'm completely happy with where GT5 is for now and I do not wish for another title at all, just updates...let them keep using GT5 as a beta for GT6 and let them hit us with a stunning new feature/content rich game. Did I mention it better be on PS4? :lol:
 
occasionalracer
You're right, maybe I'm being a bit of PS4 fanboy here, but in all honesty I can't stand people dreaming of another GT title on PS3. What's it worth to improve the game's structure with a bunch of extra tracks/cars when we have people complaining about fps drops, blocky shadows/smoke, online issues, ect. all stemming from hardware limitations?

Why can't people be happy with the great game we have and the fact it will be getting a lot of support still? Every 2 months not enough? (although I'm not gonna believe it 'til I see it...lol)

The thread is about GT6 development being confirmed (which wasn't really news) and as we know almost all GT5 content w/o standards (hopefully it will be thing of the past by then) will be in GT6, there is not much else that can be said except "PD, spend your DLC profits wisely on resources and work away like there's no tommorrow".

Of course if PD is short of ideas, they can always browse around these forums and pick out a couple of the trillion wishlists... but I'm sure on top of obvious complaints/wishes, Kaz and Co. have some ideas and goals nobody has thought of yet. Like I said before, I think PD is much more comfortable with all the programming and I pray that PD works closely alongside Sony while they put together their PS4 hardware so that by release time it will be perfect for running Gran Turismo in it's full glory.

At the end of the day, this is a racing game... how much different can it get? I'm completely happy with where GT5 is for now and I do not wish for another title at all, just updates...let them keep using GT5 as a beta for GT6 and let them hit us with a stunning new feature/content rich game. Did I mention it better be on PS4? :lol:
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Well yeah, the subject in question is not NOW, so of course most of us don't want another title at the moment. It's what it'll be in about two years from now (sometime in 2013). It's also a bit ironic that you say it's a racing game and that it can't be that different, yet you wish for new features and content-rich game, which can also be executed if GT6 is made for the PS3.

It's not dreaming either that it's possible GT6 can land on the PS3. For one, it seemed like Kaz's intention when in the making of GT5's engine, that it'll be the base for GT6 too. Perhaps that's why he said we wouldn't have to wait for it as long as we did for GT5. If GT6 was always intended for the PS4, then he can't say that they can use GT5's engine on the PS4, nor that the progress of GT5 correlates with GT6 for the PS4. Honestly, I don't know if it's possible, but I also don't know how much more they can push they PS3 in two years time from now. Everyone says they've really maxed out the PS3, but is that really the case? For sure?
 
occasionalracer
It's amazing that the PS2 is still for sale, but that is purely to give fans a chance to play their old games if their old PS2 stops working (and if they don't have a early model PS3 which can run PS2 games). As far as I know there are no games developed for it since '09, or am I incorrect?

So this doesn't mean when PS4 releases the PS3 drops dead... they'll be the same 2 year phase out, but big titles like Gran Turismo WILL be exclusive and not multi-platform. This is how you do business, but at the same time give the multi-platform option with other games that have less hardware demand to not leave people angry and forced to upgrade.

PD will not give us a scaled down version of of GT6 for PS3, it will make them look bad, and if they did, I think people would quickly learn how much smoother the game runs on the new hardware and save some money and upgrade. We have internet these days, and DLC is the best thing that could happen to keeping GT5 exciting.

As much as people whine about GT5 being a half-assed game, and that we deserve a GT6 soon to make up for it... I think the 6+ million copies sold speak for themselves as to how much money has been made (again).

~2 years is still a while, so I don't see why people are seeing this as if it's Waaaay too early for something new. I would gladly buy the new console.... PS3 is still an awsome machine, but hardly as awsome as it was in '06. Now there's BluRay drives in entry level laptops and graphics/processing hardware has become massively cheaper.
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I believe there was a Fifa 2012 release still for the PS2, before that we have Fifa 11, and then some games such as Cars: Race o Rama and such (child games), so yes, the PS2 games are running out.

I think the time has come for PD to choose for PS3, PS4 or PS3 and also on PS4. That way, nobody will have to pay too much.
 
Don't about you guys but GT5 looks amazing in 1080i resolution it makes the game much smoother don't know why the writing is so small tho
 

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