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Yes, tis indeed beautiful.
And so it should be seeing as it's running half the framerate of GT5.
Lack of details in background trees
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Yes, tis indeed beautiful.
And so it should be seeing as it's running half the framerate of GT5.
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You must be kidding. How fussy are you man.
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The trees look fine in the GT5 Demo..
If you look really close you can see that behind the kerbside row of trees is a more 2D 'tree' backdrop used, but you'd have to quite anal to spot it and complain!..
The only complaint I see regarding trees are the shadows they cast, very dithered/low res or something.. I think I'd rather they didn't cast a shadow at all and not detract from the visuals.
If you look really close you can see that behind the kerbside row of trees is a more 2D 'tree' backdrop used, but you'd have to quite anal to spot it and complain!..
The only complaint I see regarding trees are the shadows they cast, very dithered/low res or something.. I think I'd rather they didn't cast a shadow at all and not detract from the visuals.
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When I am driving at high in the cockpit cam, I don't really see those trees. They look very nice to me, but when you watch the replay, you will see those trees aren't nice though. But remember it's a racing game and no "spot-the-tree" game. 
And I don't say the background isn't realistic. Play Eiger Nordwand and watch the Location guide in arcade mode. It looks brilliant!
And I don't say the background isn't realistic. Play Eiger Nordwand and watch the Location guide in arcade mode. It looks brilliant!
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Its still going because the GT5 demo has shown improved trees compared to GT5P
Imagine when people get their hands on an X number of circuits each with unique tree models. (oh goodness, what kind of conversation would Deep Forest produce!)
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Imagine when people get their hands on an X number of circuits each with unique tree models. (oh goodness, what kind of conversation would Deep Forest produce!)
Although, to be fair, driving down deep forest for the very first time was amazing. And a lot of that was down to sunlight passing through trees.
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Which reminds me that sunlight is not very realistic either.
I think that sunlight in Gran Turismo series should have much more photons inside visuals.
Even a blindman can see that number of photons represented in sunlight polygons is way beyond real.
For instance:
Thermal equilibrium requires that the energy density ρ(ν
of photons with frequency ν (which is proportional to their number density) is, on average, constant in time; hence, the rate at which photons of any particular frequency are emitted must equal the rate of absorbing them.[56]Einstein began by postulating simple proportionality relations for the different reaction rates involved. In his model, the rate Rji for a system to absorb a photon of frequency ν and transition from a lower energy Ej to a higher energy Ei is proportional to the number Nj of atoms with energy Ej and to the energy density ρ(ν
of ambient photons with that frequency,
where Bji is the rate constant for absorption. For the reverse process, there are two possibilities: spontaneous emission of a photon, and a return to the lower-energy state that is initiated by the interaction with a passing photon. Following Einstein's approach, the corresponding rate Rij for the emission of photons of frequency ν and transition from a higher energy Ei to a lower energy Ej is
where Aij is the rate constant for emitting a photon spontaneously, and Bij is the rate constant for emitting it in response to ambient photons (induced or stimulated emission). In thermodynamic equilibrium, the number of atoms in state i and that of atoms in state j must, on average, be constant; hence, the rates Rji and Rij must be equal. Also, by arguments analogous to the derivation of Boltzmann statistics, the ratio of Ni and Nj is gi / gjexp(Ej − Ei) / kT), where gi,j are the degeneracy of the state i and that of j, respectively, Ei,j their energies, k the Boltzmann constant and T the system's temperature. From this, it is readily derived that giBij = gjBji and
The A and Bs are collectively known as the Einstein coefficients.
Somebody should really take that into concern, because I'm really intimidated how the sunlight representtion effects overall immerssion of the game.
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Which reminds me that sunlight is not very realistic either.
I think that sunlight in Gran Turismo series should have much more photons inside visuals.
Even a blindman can see that number of photons represented in sunlight polygons is way beyond real.
For instance:
Thermal equilibrium requires that the energy density ρ(ν
Einstein began by postulating simple proportionality relations for the different reaction rates involved. In his model, the rate Rji for a system to absorb a photon of frequency ν and transition from a lower energy Ej to a higher energy Ei is proportional to the number Nj of atoms with energy Ej and to the energy density ρ(ν
where Bji is the rate constant for absorption. For the reverse process, there are two possibilities: spontaneous emission of a photon, and a return to the lower-energy state that is initiated by the interaction with a passing photon. Following Einstein's approach, the corresponding rate Rij for the emission of photons of frequency ν and transition from a higher energy Ei to a lower energy Ej is
where Aij is the rate constant for emitting a photon spontaneously, and Bij is the rate constant for emitting it in response to ambient photons (induced or stimulated emission). In thermodynamic equilibrium, the number of atoms in state i and that of atoms in state j must, on average, be constant; hence, the rates Rji and Rij must be equal. Also, by arguments analogous to the derivation of Boltzmann statistics, the ratio of Ni and Nj is gi / gjexp(Ej − Ei) / kT), where gi,j are the degeneracy of the state i and that of j, respectively, Ei,j their energies, k the Boltzmann constant and T the system's temperature. From this, it is readily derived that giBij = gjBji and
The A and Bs are collectively known as the Einstein coefficients.
Somebody should really take that into concern, because I'm really intimidated how the sunlight representtion effects overall immerssion of the game.
In University we call that plagiarism
Anyway, why do you insist on taking a valid thread off topic? Yeesh.
EDIT: Also, what you copied off Wiki is stimulated emission, I dont think that's how sunlight works.
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So it's confirmed that London track, GT5 Tokyo track, and all new tracks have better detail in tree.. lets give up on this post please?
Kaz mention he wants to see how far people want to go with damage.. So lets go to the DAMAGE threads and write your opinions about damage and not some trees that look really good in GT5 already!
Kaz mention he wants to see how far people want to go with damage.. So lets go to the DAMAGE threads and write your opinions about damage and not some trees that look really good in GT5 already!
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EDIT: Also, what you copied off Wiki is stimulated emission, I dont think that's how sunlight works.
As long as it works good for sarcasam purposes it is fine. This flood of 100% useless debates needs a new way of combating.
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Why is it useless? trees are a big background filler, and in a game that has such breathtaking photo-realistic cars, some things that are not so well done will be more easily noticed.
Is it only valid to talk about the cars? I don't understand the 'rules' on this one?
I know some people like to say it's just about 'racing' and when your driving you are looking at the road, but I don't see people complaining about the detail in headlights threads when you can't see those when racing either..
Maybe I'm having a bad afternoon, but I do see what the OP was saying, I immediately noticed some nice trees in the Demo, and yes, having overhanging trees on the road (they make up a lot of the scenery on this track) does make for a better visual experience IMO...
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The problem with this "debate" is that the trees look fine, not perfect, but they fit.
Theyre not completely out of place, theyre not 2D splines (i hate that) and the trees directly at the track (London, Toyko) look better than in most other racing games.
So, before we discuss something like that, which works/looks good enough, we should concentrate more on the important stuff.
Theyre not completely out of place, theyre not 2D splines (i hate that) and the trees directly at the track (London, Toyko) look better than in most other racing games.
So, before we discuss something like that, which works/looks good enough, we should concentrate more on the important stuff.
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Your right, it does. It needs combating with a large does of ignoring, unless of course, you like banging your head against a wall.
The thread's legitimate so the mods can't lock it, by responding all your doing is bumping it up to the top of the page. Hypocrtically, I am doing just that with this post.
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Your right, it does. It needs combating with a large does of ignoring, unless of course, you like banging your head against a wall.
The thread's legitimate so the mods can't lock it, by responding all your doing is bumping it up to the top of the page. Hypocrtically, I am doing just that with this post.
surely if everyone keeps bumping it, and nobody actually says anything of any use then it will have to be locked? Either that or it'll have to go way off topic.
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You mean troll a thread so much that it gets closed?
I'm sure the mods would love that.
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Whomever spend 5 minutes of their life looking at details on the leaves of a tree in a game needs to get laid...badly.
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What if I get laid whilst posting in this thread? would that be OK?
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I think trees should look similarly like real ones and then they wouldn't distract your look from the track. When they are obviously a very simple cartoon, they just break that good realistic feeling from a track. But they are somewhat upgraded in Gamescom demo, so we'll see in the final game.
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Ok this is what I got to say about the bloody damage in the GameCon demo. It's look stupid, but very interesting to have one in the game...About time. See the part where that evo IV hit the Sti from the back? In real situation that both cars would be "Totalled," already. With that amount of speed like that. Like I said before, most of you guys who love this GT series so much you don't even see the different between the real thing and a blood-y video games anymore mate. Now with the crash from the back like that it should look something like this, but from the back instead of the front of the Sti...
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But the Evo has no damage.
And I kinda want to strangle the driver of that STI.
And I kinda want to strangle the driver of that STI.
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