Latest Seasonal (wet) extremely hard?

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GTR R35 TC please can someone post the setup for Spa Wet as I am stuggling
Thank You
 
I got a 2:24.7xx with the 2J in few tries. No aids used except ABS=1, this challenge is fairly easy for those used to drive in the rain. It payed off driving the 908 HDI with Real grip loss, no aids and full weather conditions around the 'Ring countless times...
 
Hard? First run i went 16 seconds quicker than gold. They are still far to easy IMO.
 
I'm still not that comfortable in the wet so it took several tries for me, maybe 20-25 laps. Surely a lot harder than most dry events which I can crush gold on my first clean lap with plenty of mistakes. I suck at rallying but those events are a joke, you can come to a full stop 3 times and take all the corners super slow and still gold by 15 seconds.

I didn't clear it by much but there's plenty of time to be found in my lines and probably a less stiff setup. So not bad, challenging but hardly unfair. But surely much more difficult than most.

Used Camaro LM race car, stock parts, my normal setup, cockpit view, no aids no TC no ABS. I'm slightly curious now to see what I could do with ABS and the GT-Rs everyone recommends or with a detuned car that shouldn't be eligible for the event like most seem to use for all of these. Don't have a 2J to see if that qualifies unmolested or how I'd run with that.
 
Hard? First run i went 16 seconds quicker than gold. They are still far to easy IMO.

You went 15.2 seconds quicker than gold, according to the leader board.

That's a pretty big rounding error. :lol:

If you're going to blow your own horn, at least play the right note. :lol:
 
Just had another run. Loaded up Tony's ghost. It helped me as I was no longer going off Eau Rouge due to Tony's lap having quite a poor first sector. Anyway had a shocking 2nd sector and an OK 3rd. The deficit is all in the 2nd sector for me, I know I can do decent ones, just doing it with a good 1st and 3rd sector will be the key. Eau Rouge can kill many laps though. If anyone wants to see how to do a fast first sector especially the initial part, look at my replay. I don't go through Eau Rouge that quickly so there is some time in there.
 
Awesome lap Saidur! Did a 2.23.4 with the Oreca R8 but there's still so much time to find everywhere.. I love how you can take all kinds of funky lines on this TT which actually make you faster :)
 
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Hard? First run i went 16 seconds quicker than gold. They are still far to easy IMO.

I think it really comes down to car much more than driver for this event, I don't have a 2J but if I did I'm sure I'd get it first time too.
 
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You went 15.2 seconds quicker than gold, according to the leader board.

That's a pretty big rounding error. :lol:

If you're going to blow your own horn, at least play the right note. :lol:

Couldn't remember it exactly and wasn't near my PS3. PD need to do something, gold should be a challenge.
 
Couldn't remember it exactly and wasn't near my PS3. PD need to do something, gold should be a challenge.


What happens if PD sets the Gold time to 2:20?

Is that better for you or do you start complaining the Gold time is too low ?



raVer
 
Couldn't remember it exactly and wasn't near my PS3. PD need to do something, gold should be a challenge.

Gold can't just be a challenge for the aliens, because that'd remove 99% of the rest of us who already find gold to be challenging in this particular trial.
 
Just had another run. Loaded up Tony's ghost. It helped me as I was no longer going off Eau Rouge due to Tony's lap having quite a poor first sector. Anyway had a shocking 2nd sector and an OK 3rd. The deficit is all in the 2nd sector for me, I know I can do decent ones, just doing it with a good 1st and 3rd sector will be the key. Eau Rouge can kill many laps though. If anyone wants to see how to do a fast first sector especially the initial part, look at my replay. I don't go through Eau Rouge that quickly so there is some time in there.

I am having problems since day 1 on the first sector so i don't even bother restarting despite having lost time. My PB sector 1 is still 2 tenths away from the top time and i've tried many things. The other sectors i feel reasonably fast, with the last sector being always a little messy.

This is my first seasonal TT and to be honest i am not enjoying it much. Setup and ''tricks'' are too important so i keep bumping into walls then followed by breakthroughs and shaving time off accordingly. I don't enjoy the actual driving experience.
 
I am having problems since day 1 on the first sector so i don't even bother restarting despite having lost time. My PB sector 1 is still 2 tenths away from the top time and i've tried many things. The other sectors i feel reasonably fast, with the last sector being always a little messy.

This is my first seasonal TT and to be honest i am not enjoying it much. Setup and ''tricks'' are too important so i keep bumping into walls then followed by breakthroughs and shaving time off accordingly. I don't enjoy the actual driving experience.

I'm with you on the first section..It's where I lose the most amount of time (More specifically the first turn, I'm fine at the high speed bend). Also lose some time in the mid section and incidentally gain in the last two..Odd eh? What I recommend you do is load up a fast person's ghost (Faster than you anyway) and drive alongside them, It helps, or rather it helped me in certain sections :)

Here's my tune combined with Praiano's, It might help some of you guys...

Ride: -7/-10
Spring: 18.4/20
Damp Ext: 9/10
Damp Com: 8/9
Roll: 1/2

Camber: 2.4/1.4
Toe: -0.03/0.14
LSD:8/20/5

Use a Mid-RPM Turbo.

I keep flustering especially when I'm doing good. If i didn't have that problem I would have done a high 19 a long time ago :/

gratz on your Spot, Wish I could break into the top 10.
 
I'm with you on the first section..It's where I lose the most amount of time (More specifically the first turn, I'm fine at the high speed bend). Also lose some time in the mid section and incidentally gain in the last two..Odd eh? What I recommend you do is load up a fast person's ghost (Faster than you anyway) and drive alongside them, It helps, or rather it helped me in certain sections :)

Here's my tune combined with Praiano's, It might help some of you guys...

Ride: -7/-10
Spring: 18.4/20
Damp Ext: 9/10
Damp Com: 8/9
Roll: 1/2

Camber: 2.4/1.4
Toe: -0.03/0.14
LSD:8/20/5

Use a Mid-RPM Turbo.

I keep flustering especially when I'm doing good. If i didn't have that problem I would have done a high 19 a long time ago :/

gratz on your Spot, Wish I could break into the top 10.

Thanks. The setup seems very extreme, mine is very conservative compared with it. I'll give it a try. In what way is the mid RPM turbo helping?
 
I find this event quite difficult - my best so far was good enough for 11604th place, and no prize. But please don't take this as whining or complaining - I'm still trying to beat it. I won't be in the top 10, or the top 100, or maybe even the top 1000, but I feel I can gold this one with some practice and the right setup for my driving style.

The WRX event a while back, I never got better than 3rd place. The Lotus event on that round, I didn't get past the silver time - but damned if they didn't make me try like hell, and I feel they improved my driving, so I'm happy. Would've liked the gold, but couldn't earn it, and that's life. Not everybody gets a trophy just for showing up! :)
 
Thanks. The setup seems very extreme, mine is very conservative compared with it. I'll give it a try. In what way is the mid RPM turbo helping?

I dunno, It just seemed like stiff springs helped at Spa, at least for me. Camber helps with a bit of stability...Believe or not the Mid RPM Turbo actually makes the HP Peak slightly higher than the High RPM so you can shift a bit later. Bit more power on the straightaways.

@Kwicko, Just keep at it..Go slow into the corners, and fast out of them. Watch a couple of fast people replays, load their ghosts and yeah, learn and apply :)
 
I dunno, It just seemed like stiff springs helped at Spa, at least for me. Camber helps with a bit of stability...Believe or not the Mid RPM Turbo actually makes the HP Peak slightly higher than the High RPM so you can shift a bit later. Bit more power on the straightaways.

@Kwicko, Just keep at it..Go slow into the corners, and fast out of them. Watch a couple of fast people replays, load their ghosts and yeah, learn and apply :)

Yup, the few decent runs I've had have been DQ'd due to sliding off track by going too hot into the corners. I'll turn down the power a bit and have a few more goes at it, since I seem to be having trouble putting the power down on the straights - it's a bit disconcerting when you're still spinning the rears and kicking out the tail at 130mph!

I find most of the seasonals and time trials to be quite easy, and I actually appreciate the challenge of this one (and the Le Sarthe B-spec challenge). Maybe I won't get it, but it's sure fun to try!


ETA: Thanks to your setup - and turning the power down on the 2J - I did this one in 2:34.491. That was with the power turned down to 500hp, just to get a better feel for the car. It's quite a handful in the wet!
 
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Done it in the TC GT-R first time, But I am still struggling with the dry one. :lol:
 
Done it in the TC GT-R first time, But I am still struggling with the dry one. :lol:

The GT-R R35 TC is great for the wet test.

Try the dry one with the GT-R V-spec
You'll should be able to make it. 👍
 
Did the dry one with my 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STi.
Tried the Wet ones with the R32 Skyline TC and RX7 TC.

Actually had to do it with the BMW V12 LMR.
Was quite a dance with this thing.
 
-raVer-
What happens if PD sets the Gold time to 2:20?

Is that better for you or do you start complaining the Gold time is too low ?

raVer

Then that would be a challenge, there would be a sense of achievement when beating it. At the moment the seasonal events are just free credits with no challenge. The "expert" seasonal events from a while back were good fun and round about the right difficulty.
 
Awesome lap Saidur! Did a 2.23.4 with the Oreca R8 but there's still so much time to find everywhere.. I love how you can take all kinds of funky lines on this TT which actually make you faster :)
Thanks. I think the fastest way to go is getting close to perfect traction and little to no wheelspin until top range of power.

I am having problems since day 1 on the first sector so i don't even bother restarting despite having lost time. My PB sector 1 is still 2 tenths away from the top time and i've tried many things. The other sectors i feel reasonably fast, with the last sector being always a little messy.

This is my first seasonal TT and to be honest i am not enjoying it much. Setup and ''tricks'' are too important so i keep bumping into walls then followed by breakthroughs and shaving time off accordingly. I don't enjoy the actual driving experience.
If you see my lap, you can see my first sector is maybe 1 or 2 tenths faster than the number 1 time, which makes me about 6 tenths faster than your time in 1st sector. I will tell you the trick, at the start of the lap on the chicane, keep to the right, then cut back inside while partially on throttle then go full throttle. Keep to the left, brake at the 150 metre board if I remember correctly. Slow down about 40-50, then try and cut into the corner with the help of the e-brake without losing much speed, then get on the power while keeping to the right. A good example will be my replay as I said.


Apart from the Karting event, this is the first time I'm setting up my car to be competitive. From memory, ride height is 10F and 0R. LSD is 5, 5 and 5. High range turbo chosen. Obviously can't remember the gearing ratio, but will post when I look it up. I haven't messed with other settings. I think gearing is key and it is hard to make gearing in all gears good especially the 2nd gear one if you have a good 1st gear.

This is a strange seasonal for sure, like you I have breakthroughs and I'm going up the leaderboards by up to a second each time I get a decent lap in. I think a lot of time can be made from the driver and is all about controlled aggression through the lap. I think the car has enough time in it to do a high 2:17 for me and even though I'm quite far away, all it will require is a flowing lap where everything goes for you. The enjoyment in this TT comes when you feel you have done a top lap, yet to feel that as I've only done decent first and last sectors.


Edit: Links to setup:

http://i43.tinypic.com/298t1v.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zczh3b.jpg

Forgot to mention before brake bias, I just lowered it from default and stuck with it. Seems to help.
 
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I finally managed to get to the top. Thanks to ugabugaz for the setup, and saidur for the sector 1 help. There's still time to be found but at least i know now where and why.
 
I finally managed to get to the top. Thanks to ugabugaz for the setup, and saidur for the sector 1 help. There's still time to be found but at least i know now where and why.

Can I ask were the tune is?

EDIT:found it.
 
I finally managed to get to the top. Thanks to ugabugaz for the setup, and saidur for the sector 1 help. There's still time to be found but at least i know now where and why.

Glad to be of use! Congratulations on #1!

Edit: Wow, You weren't kidding about that first section. I can only get within 0.5 at the first marker, I think it might be cause I use an Automatic transmission, losing too much time accelerating out of the powerband.

Edit 2: Shaved yet another .3 secs off my time.
@ SuperSic, One spot I gained on you was right after the first marker braking point. The first corner entrance after the long straightway. If you go slightly more to the left, and brake a little bit later you can enter the corner a bit faster.
 
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The GT-R R35 TC is great for the wet test.

Try the dry one with the GT-R V-spec
You'll should be able to make it. 👍

Okay mate, I'll give it a bash. :D

Cheers! 👍
 
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