Le Mans 1967

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  1. ZOPPO GT

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    The THUNDERCLUB is looking for drivers who are interested about a "replay" of the 1967 race at Le Mans. We like to create a championship (6 races) with the cars from the 1967 starting grid. There will be two classes with a independet scoring. A prototype class with Ford Mark IV, Ford GT 40 and Ferrari 330 P4. A sportscar class with Shelby GT 350, Ford GT 40 and Chevrolet Corvette C2. To add some more cars to the sportscars we dicided to fill up the class with Ferrari 250 GTO and Shelby Daytona Coupe wich are former Le Mans cars too.

    A special BOP for each car will make sure that all cars will have the same performance (laptime) in their class. By this way any car will have the chance to win it´s class.

    Last but not least: In both classes the cars have to race with "authentic liveries" and starting numbers.

    Please let us know if you are interested about a racing series with old Le Mans cars on historic tracks - Le Mans, Spa Francorchamps, Monza, Nürburgring, ect. If there will be enough drivers who like to join this series, we will start working on it. Important: We are looking for "gentleman" drivers only, because we like to race in a very clean and fair way witout any kind of aggressive behavior.

    The THUNDERCLUB - Fair comes first, the victory comes second!
     
  2. Sick Cylinder

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    Sounds great @ZOPPO GT - I hope you have a lot of interest and this is very successful! This series will look great so I hope there will be plenty of photos after each race and perhaps streaming and replays.

    I will post a link to your series in case any of my friends are interested!
     
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  3. Pigems

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    This sounds interesting, when are you planning to run it?
     
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  4. AndreasR

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    If time permits I´d join.
     
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  5. GTP_Nail

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    I’m in
     
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  6. ZOPPO GT

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    Thank you "Sick Cylinder", "Pigems", "AndreasR" and "GTP_Nail".
    Some friends of the THUNDERCLUB "cooplay64" - "HanSiT" - "oldboy1943" are intersted too. At this time we are 8 guys. Hopefully some more will join us for this special event.

    I like to wait a few days more for maybe some more guys. If we hit 12 it make sense to start the series. There is no particular date yet, because of waiting what happens. I will send you a message.
     
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  7. MaxAttack

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    This is interesting - but all I have is the XJ13 right now. I'm at ~9m creds steadily building up to my next purchase, but if you'll take the Jag (which I'm aware never raced) I'd be in, or I can try and grind up for one of the cars in the list like a madman :d

    EDIT: I do have the Shelby 350, and the C2 corvette, so I could jump in either of those too.
     
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  8. half_sourly

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    Depending on days and times, I would be interested.
     
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  9. ZOPPO GT

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    Hi MaxAttack
    Thank you for reply. We just try to start the series and wait how many drivers are interested about it. You will get a message next time.
     
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    Hi GTP_Guido

    Thanks for reply. I´m waiting how many guys will answer for Le Mans 1967. If there will be enough drivers it makes sense to start a series. I send you more informations if it works.
     
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    Thanks for reply.
     
  13. Kermit_2142

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    Interested - will be time dependant :tup:
     
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  14. ZOPPO GT

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    I plan to race every first and third thursday per month. The THUNDERCLUB is a german club, so we will start at 8 pm (20:00) german time. Zime in other countrys: England: 7 pm. USA - Eastern time: 2 pm, Central time: 1 pm, Mountain Time: noon. That´s so far, I´m working on it!
     
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  15. Revo 54

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    I am interested
     
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  16. ZOPPO GT

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    Thank you all for your replys.
    What´s about a series of 6 races? I think about a "short" version of the 1967 sportscar world championship, because not all tracks from 1967 are available at GT Sport. The races (in order of 1967) will be at Autodrome Nazionale Monza, Circuit Spa Franchorchamps, Nürburgring, Circuit de la Sarthe (Le Mans), Brands Hatch and Nürburgring again.

    Prototype class: Ferrari 330 P4 - Ford GT40 - Ford Mark IV

    Sportscar class: Corvette C2 - Ferrari 250 GTO - Shelby Daytona Coupe / Cobra 427 / GT 350 - Jaguar E-Type

    Every race is about 2 hours with one required 5 minutes pitstop (to do things wich cannot be delayed?). For the scoring I will use the VLN system from the Nürburgring endurance series.

    Settings for the series:
    Tires: racing hard / medium / soft
    Gas consumption: stage 1
    Tire wear: stage 1
    Penaltys: high
    Damage: high
    Tuning: free
    ABS: free (no other "helpers" allowed!)

    At this time I´m working at the BOPs for the cars, because the SONY BOP won´t work (2 classes) and is unfair too. For best equivalence all cars should be able to do the absolutely same laptime in their class, because the best driver has to win - not the best car.

    When I finished the BOP you are welcome to do a test race. I will inform you about the date.
     
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  17. half_sourly

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    Sounds good. To help with equivalence/ BOP, would it not be better to disallow tuning?
     
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    Unfortunately, 2pm Eastern is 3pm for me, so I won’t be able to make theSr races, I’m still at work at that time of day on a Thursday. Good luck to all and enjoy the racing fellas! :cheers:
     
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    It doesn´t work without tuning, because you need a looooong gearbox especially for the Le Mans stright without chicanes. The stock gearbox of some cars is way too short and the engine runs into the limiter. On the other side some cars are horrible to drive without a custum setup. But don´t worry, every member of the THUNDERCLUB will share the best setups for the cars if you need it. We are like a family and share all our expierences and knowledges, because we like fair racing.
     
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  20. ZOPPO GT

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    B.O.P. for the THUNDERCLUB HISTORIC CAR RACE
    The numbers behind the cars showing the maximum power / minimum weight in % for the cars.

    Prototypes:
    Ferrari 330 P4 ------- 122 / 120
    Ford Mark IV --------- 115 / 95


    Sportscars:
    Corvette C2 ----------- 127 / 89
    Ferrari 250 GTO ------ 127 / 123
    Ford GT40 ------------ 89 / 102
    Jaguar E-Type -------- 137 / 86
    Shelby Cobra 427 --- 76 / 102
    Shelby Daytona ------ 102 / 104
    Shelby GT 350 ------- 125 / 86

    If a car should still be too fast (or too slow) the BOP will be adjusted. Please understand: Some cars are faster on the straights, others faster in corners and better on the brakes. It may look strange on long straights when the GT 40 passes all cars, but it´s a "little bit poor" on the brakes and a "little bit" slower in corners. But anyway, at the end it´s important that all cars are able to run the same laptime (depending on the driver, of course). Please notice: The topspeed depends on the downforce - max downforce / less topspeed - min downforce / max topspeed. It´s up to your personal driving style and depends on the kind of track. Please check it out a few days before the race. We like to start in time without delays. There will be no time for adjusting the setup at raceday. Please show up with a "ready to race" car.

    Please make a good choice when selecting the class and the car. You have to stay at your selected car the whole season. It´s not allowed to switch to a different car.

    The tracks for the championship:

    1. Monza
    2. Spa Francorchamps
    3. Nürburgring
    4. Le Mans
    5. Brands Hatch
    6. Nürburgring

    Time schedule:
    Room opens at 8 pm (20:00) german time
    Qualifying starts at 8:15 pm (20:15)
    Race starts at 8:30 pm (20:30)

    Scoring:
    Just the best five results of any driver (out of six races) scoring for the championship. If a driver miss one race, he has still the option to win the series.
     
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  21. Kermit_2142

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    Apologies, I won’t be able to make that time slot. Feel free to tag me in future events, looks like you should have a good season :tup:
     
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  22. Goldomor

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    @ZOPPO GT Count me in. Probably Prototypes.
     
  23. ZOPPO GT

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    Hey Goldomor. Welcome to the races(s).
     
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    Count me in with the Cobra 427 @ZOPPO GT :cheers:
     
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    Welcome GTP_Guido. Hoprfully the sun will shine when you drive a convertible :)
     
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    After test drives: The BOP for the Jaguar E-Type changed to 128 / 86 (old 130 / 86)
     
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    Please notice: There will be a "special penalty" (like at the old series) for rear end collisiones and side impacts with damage. The guilty driver has to go in the pits immediately after causing a damage and has to stay there for one minute before the mechanics can start to work. This penalty may be hard, but it is highly unsportsmanlike to ruin the race of other drivers with a reckless driving style. We like to race in a very considerate and prudent style. Please remember our top priority anytime: Fair comes first - victory comes last!

    How to do the penalty pit stop?
    It´s the same procedure like at the required 5 minute pitstop. Go into the pitlane and the server takes control about your car. IMPORTANT: Do nothing now! Don´t press any button and wait till your car stop at the mechanics. Now have a look at the middle of the screen and watch the clock for "STANDING TIME" (the right one in the middle) running. When the standing time hits 60 seconds (or 5 minutes for the required stop) press any button you like and continue like usual.

    INFORMATION: The required 5 minute pitsop has to be done between 15 minutes after race start and at least 15 minutes before the race ends. It´s advisable to combine this pit stop with a regular stop.

    If you have a headset please join the party when racing with us. It will be helpful in many situationes and for actual informations. But please don´t talk more than necessary during the race.
     
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  28. AndreasR

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    I´ll take the Ferrari P330 Prototype ( second choice would be Shelby Daytona Sportscar)

    BTW Which date are we talking about? Do you want to start next Thursday June 4th with Monza without chikane?
     
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  29. half_sourly

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    I will be using a Shelby Cobra 427.
     
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  30. ZOPPO GT

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    Actual Starting Grid:

    Prototypes:
    Simba --------------------- Ferrari 330 P4
    ZOPPO--GT -------------- Ford Mark IV
    oldboy -------------------- Ford Mark IV
     
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