Look, I still don't think you can show a clip of a 2012 F1 car that's now retired and used as a training tool to argue that a modern F1 car should be driveable for a novice, for the following reasons:
1. As already mentioned the drivetrain is completely different now - which also addresses your point about the wider tyres.
2. You don't imagine that demo car has been specifically set-up to be easier to drive? N00by geometry set-up and throttle maps etc? Come on.
I'm not disagreeing that a 2012 car is different from 2017 car, but the basic physics principles still stays. Current gen F1 has a lot more mechanical grip compared to the old one. Regen doesn't even come into it because if you read my post properly, I'm talking about mid corner state where the car is at constant speed. No regen, no deployment.
Not denying either that the 2012 car was probably made easier to drive, but you don't think current F1 drivers also want a car that's easy to drive? An easy car to drive is easy to drive fast. Sure they might tolerate a slightly more oversteery setup than a noob, but I bet you they will complain left and right to their engineer if their car spins at 60 km/h mid corner. I don't know why people always assume race cars are a mythical entity that are completely undrivable unless your name is Senna.
If you read AC's SF15-T manual, you would also know that more aggressive MGU-K regen is usually balanced by less aggressive engine braking to avoid the problem of rear axle lock up. Again, not assuming 2015 car is equal to 2017 car, but the basic principle stays.
https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/assetto-corsa-ferrari-sf15-t-technical-guide.123938/
Totally disagree with you here, absolutely nothing wrong with any of those cars :S
Again, I don't disagree it was tricky to drive at slow speed corners. I'd even concede trickier than it should have been, but it was manageable once you got used to the drivetrain and I'm sure with a set-up it would have been fine.
But to say "it shouldn't drive like that", or "real F1 cars don't behave like that", etc, is factitious.
Those cars are not as messed up as the W08, but compared to comparable cars in other sims they still feel off. Let's discount the Red Bull cars because they're fictional. The F1500 is way too stiff compared to similar Lotus 98T in AC. The gokart don't even get me started. It feels like you only have 5 degree of steering before you exceed the tyre's slip angle and spin. If you compare to the similar shifter kart in Automobilista it's night and day.
For the record btw, I didn't find the old W08 unmanageable despite its handling foibles. I still won all 3 career mode races on first try without any significant difficulty. I think I only adjusted the gearbox for the settings. Nil driving aids except Weak ABS (because GTS ABS Off is still woeful). Doesn't mean I enjoy treading the needle everytime I come across a hairpin.
Anyway, since neither of us will likely ever drive an F1 car in our lives, by your reasoning this discussion is pointless. Even if we get Hamilton to test it, you still wouldn't get an honest answer because it will be a PD sponsored video.
Case closed. Agree to disagree
. They can tune almost anything with these so to think they'd leave it handling like that is something I find hard to believe.
so perhaps you could benefit from another read before dishing out the lecture? Again, without reading whatever it is you're referring me to, I can tell you that MGU-K regen is [electronically] balanced by less rear brake pressure, but again if you're not aware of all of this and just go to grab a downshift mid-corner as usual and the car spins, I can see how the "PD's released borken W08" trope can gather momentum - that's literally all I'm saying.
