License Difficulty?

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sombau
my best buddy can get all golds seemingly without trying
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Hmm, unless his name is Kazunori, he probably is trying, coz all golds in GT3 takes alot of time and effort, no matter how good you are...

Saying that, I think racing is a different beast... staying on the track lap after lap is key to winning races (I'd frequently win close races against mates who would go off once or twice when I was able to stay on the track), whereas most license tests require only 20 secs of concentration and repetitive effort until you get the medal you are after. Knowledge of entire circuits is a better skill to have IMHO... I think the only real test of how good you are overall is the S-License (whole circuit) tests in GT3...

Either that or your buddy is a natural genius at GT but doesn't have the requisite competitive streak to win 2P Battles... :)
 
sombau
I was actually semi serious about it...ive always wondered why he does so much better on the licenses, but i kick his arse in actuall racing. Its something of a mystery to me.
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I guess you have noticed the smiley, didn´t you? :)
 
My buddy hates to lose...so thats why i enjoy wiping the floor with him so much.

I think part of it is the fact that in order to pass the tests I have to pretty dramatically curtail my natural balls-to-the-wall driving style...that might have something to do with it too.
 
lnasphinx
can someone tell me please why is manual transmission better than AT?
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I guess it's simply because the AI selects when to up/downshift and is never quite optimal for any given scenario... Manual gives you full control... you will get the full benefit if you also take all driver assists off (steering/braking), and adjust the ASM/TCS settings to your driving style as well...

I find that the AI is usually sluggish in selecting the right gear, particularly when cornering... a good example of AT making life hard is when doing Cote D'Azur in an F1 car or the Toyota GT-One... in the slow, tight corners, as your speed drops, the AI will drop you into 1st, and as you accelerate out of the corner, you will spin much more easily... the only way to avoid this is not to drop down into 1st... something you will find quite hard unless you are in Manual... sometimes, staying in the 'wrong' gear can be very helpful if you want more (or less) grip, or you want to minimise wheel spin/maximise exit speed... you will almost certainly get faster average laps once you have mastered Manual...

It is also far more interesting to learn a circuit in Manual... :D

One disadvantage (if you can call it that) is that since every car (or even every set-up of each car) is different, you might need to take a couple of warm-up laps to 'learn' the gear changes on a circuit, even if you know that circuit like the back of your hand.... but once you've learnt it, you will be quicker... I did a 2P race against a mate, he was in AT, and I was in MT, and we both had identical stock TVR's... but I hadn't ever tried the combination of car/circuit in MT before and, over a short race of 3 laps, I didn't get up to speed fast enough to challenge him... however, had it been a longer race, or I had done a couple of warm up laps, I probably would have won... :odd:

edit: don't just take my word for it though... try it next time you play... you'll probably be surprised, and you will kick yourself for not making the switch sooner...
 
I cant remember which one, but if you hold down one of the shoulder buttons while using a automatic transmission, it would hold the car in that gear...
 
Ok guys. Since this related to GT4 lisence test I have question.
Can you sell those cars that are awarded from the license tests?
 
Cosmic
Ok guys. Since this related to GT4 lisence test I have question.
Can you sell those cars that are awarded from the license tests?
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You can't rewin a licence test prize car, so why would you want to sell one?
I just don't understand this fascination with selling cars, even the ugly and slow ones. There's room enough for hundreds of duplicates.

If you need money, go win some more races?

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
MasterGT
You can't rewin a licence test prize car, so why would you want to sell one?
I just don't understand this fascination with selling cars, even the ugly and slow ones. There's room enough for hundreds of duplicates.

If you need money, go win some more races?

Cheers,

MasterGT
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I know that you can not re-win the license test cars but can you sell them?
 
Cosmic
I know that you can not re-win the license test cars but can you sell them?
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I wouldn't swear by it, but I'm pretty sure you CAN sell them... the only car I know you can't sell is the Oreca Viper....
 
Does every car that you win from a licence test a unique car?
like you can't get them any other way? or is it just a couple of cars that are unique
 
Hey all -- I have my copy of GT4 on reserve. Can't wait to get it to see how it runs. I didn't mess around with the Demo for GT4, believe that it's not going to be anything like the full version.

Anyway, I think the tests in GT1 and GT3 were the hardest ones. In GT1, you were dealing with PS1 getting its CPU limits pushed. That and it was the first set of tests. GT2, you were allowed to transfer some of your licenses over. GT3 -- in arcade mode, was by far the toughest I went through. The complex string took me 10 or 12 times just to get close to silver, and when I finally go the gold in that one, I did back flips!! The RUF RR is by far the worst car to drive.

I can't wait to get GT4 and see how it came out. If the reviews do it any justice at all, then it will be worth more than what I will have to pay for it! 👍
 
sombau
I was actually semi serious about it...ive always wondered why he does so much better on the licenses, but i kick his arse in actuall racing. Its something of a mystery to me.
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Maybe you need to be put under pressure by an human player/other car.

If he goes faster you want to go faster, the he goes faster ect. in license test there is nothing to make you push, you don't have an mark to beat, like an car, cause you can't really see time, but you can see an other car. (and yes you can see an clck, but tahst not an real solid mark, its not something you can overtake)
 
Darts
Maybe you need to be put under pressure by an human player/other car.

If he goes faster you want to go faster, the he goes faster ect. in license test there is nothing to make you push, you don't have an mark to beat, like an car, cause you can't really see time, but you can see an other car. (and yes you can see an clck, but tahst not an real solid mark, its not something you can overtake)
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That I guess is the reason why I do better in 2-player scenarios than licenses..
 
Mukai
You'll get the Domestic B and Domestic A license, but no medal! If you want to get the bonus cars, you have to pass the licenses!
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Uh oh. I was all set to import my gold GT3 license tests to get all bronze medals for the GT4 license tests, like the GT to GT2 transfer. No cars, no medals and no license past A? Uh oh.
 
Well, hopefully I won't get in too much trouble for revivng a dead (or at least wounded *lol*) thread to whine about the Nurburgring license tests. So far, those have been the most difficult ones for me, just for the length of time involved, much less how technical the track is.

Personally, I prefer the tests that last anywhere from 15 seconds to a minute are the best. You screw up, bam you're right back into it, trying again.

But with Nurburgring, if you mess up at the last corner (like I did, but I think I was too slow anyway for bronze, which is all I want), that's essentially 7+ minutes of racing down the drain.

Oh, well, I guess I'll have to try again some other time.
 
I'm 7 tenths away from getting a gold in the Sauber C9 at Nurburgring in the final ltest. I completed at 24 hour race around there yesterday, and my best time around there for a stock setup was actually 2 seconds faster than the time you need to get a gold in a license test.

The hardest thing fpr me is being much quicker than the pace car and restricting myself to pushing it rather than overtaking it. (and damn i hate those tea breaks, i just didnt bother with them)
 
I am up to IntB and I find the hardest part so far is not overtaking the pace car :(
whats with that? you should be able to beat the pace car if you want to! :mad:
 
How does the pace car's pace work ... is it if you come close to it, it starts going faster ... cause I see a major difference in times on the 'Ring test ... but I dropped back a bit on the test, and caught up again with the pace car later in the lap and could actually also go past it at some stage ...
 
I thought the license tests in GT4 were easy. The super license was too easy to get. On GT3 it took me hours of trying to pass some of those tests, especially that final Super license test with the GT1 with no TCS on Cote d'Azur. GT4's final super license test was a lot easier. I beat it the first time I finished a complete lap.
 
Well, driving physics have changed from Gran Turismo games over the years. I want to say that GT1 and GT2 were no different, but things were a bit more real in GT3. In GT3, the difference between a good time and a bad one was (in standing starts, at least) was how much throttle you applied at the start. If you over rev the engine, you can pay for it with a slow launch. It kind of makes you appreciate that even the smallest details can improve or ruin your time during license tests.

Something I've discovered was that your GT experience gets better the more you play it, not to mention the more experience you get with a certain GT game. For example, the more you play GT1 and the more racing you do, you'll be able to redo license tests for better results. It's perfectly fine to take a few steps back and make something out of your license results. Be the best driver YOU want to be. It won't be easy, whether it's a simple 0-100m test, or the Nurburgring Nordschleife in a Mercedes-Benz DTM racer, don't expect to get much slack cut for you. Have to fight it out. You have to be able to go 12 rounds versus Gran Turismo. It's still going to be tough on the licenses. Don't forget. In past GT games, you didn't get the luxuries you do in GT4. GT3 has your ghost of your last lap, not to mention what gear you must be in to get through the turn effectively. It also has section times. GT2 has sector times, but no ghost or gear markings. And if you want to talk luxuries, GT1 is the hardest. It has no ghost lap, no brake markers, no sector times, and basically... it's just you trying to survive. The more GT experience, the more you're able to set them up... and KNOCK THEM DOWN!
 
thnx for the short story nikko :P

javGT: the pace car tends to lose me onthe straights and I gain (or want to overtake) on the corners. I recon it should pick up speed no the corners a bit so I am not inclined to o/take!
 

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