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Logitech G Pro Racing Wheel
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Oshawa-Joe
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Not much effort to find people complaining about their simucube oscillations issues on straights and when idle.
After 2 years this would be realy disappointing. Atleast i expect a lcd on a F1 wheel and rev lights on the rim
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Hi @loudlevin, this sounds similar to the issue I reported a few pages back. A couple of other people on this thread have also said they have had something similar. I play on PC and I've had it in game menus, replays and when actually driving when the car is stationary, I had it when I closed games as well and it continued.
I definitely found that turning dampening off and keeping it off stopped the twitching but I can't remember if turning dampening back on, meant the twitching started again, quite possibly. I think turning the wheelbase off and on again did stop it, and occasionally I had sessions where I didn't have twitching but usually it wouldn't be long again before it started.
Maybe it's just me, but I found it difficult to deal with spending close to £1000 wheel and having that twitching and/or not using dampening.
Credit to Logitech, I raised a ticket and although they were slow at replying they did arrange a return/repair under the warranty without any qualms. It's currently on it's way back to them, I've included some details in a note with the wheelbase so I'm hoping they will be able to replicate it and identify the issue.
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And? I commented on the vibrating/pulsating feel on the wheel rim that particularly Fanatec (and some Logitech) users complain about. Fanatec says it's caused by using the dampener setting, so it's interesting that Logitech seemingly have a similar issue.
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And the issue doesn't appear to be isolated to Logitech and Fanatec DD wheels.
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Be good to hear how they get on, if there's no firmware/game software fix I might need to look at a repair.
Xbox version here, ACC dampener off solved it, haven't noticed in other games I don't think. Could maybe try it on laptop if it also does it in regular AC?
Im interested as well. I'd like to not believe this is present in all units but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of people don't even bother adjusting anything other then gain leaving dampener at 0 or notice its even happening kind of like how people dont notice the engine overheating in there car despite the warning lights and smoke billowing from the hood. Its not a crippling issue, but my initial impression when i first noticed it was that it was some kind of power regulation fault on a hardware level in the motor control circuit as opposed to a software issue. Im hoping a software fix is in work but I remain a skeptic.
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I work from an old screenshot where they certainly aren't 0, although on the website now they aren't 0 either unless there's a new place they display that? https://support.logi.com/hc/en-gb/articles/8358055253271-In-Game-Settings-for-Pro-Wheels
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Since the wobble seems to occur on other manufacturers wheels as well I'm assuming it's something to do with the responsiveness of a DD finding it's centre point. You wouldn't notice it on a gear or belt drive system.
If there's a firmware fix all well and good. Actually I don't mind it, but If you do find the little wobble annoying...
A simple workaround would be to create one of the 5 user profiles that has zero dampener and switch to that when not in a game (or in game menus for extended periods). Then switch back to the appropriate game profile when playing. That way with just a couple of button presses you'd get the benefit of the dampener giving a realistic feel in game while having it remain still out of it.
If there's a firmware fix all well and good. Actually I don't mind it, but If you do find the little wobble annoying...
A simple workaround would be to create one of the 5 user profiles that has zero dampener and switch to that when not in a game (or in game menus for extended periods). Then switch back to the appropriate game profile when playing. That way with just a couple of button presses you'd get the benefit of the dampener giving a realistic feel in game while having it remain still out of it.
The setting listed in the columns are recommended settings for the wheelbase at the hardware level, if you click on the screenshots to the right it will display settings to be adjusted in game menu. Im not a 100% on the in game settings being changed and i apoligize if im wrong, ill update when im back home and on the rig to verify with a direct comparison. Edit - Disregard anything about the settings being changed that i mentioned, i got the base settings and in game settings mixed up.
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Ok so I just found out from one of the team members about the status of the pro ecosystem. When they released the wheel several years ago the 5 person team decided to take a weeks vacation to celebrate despite initial sales. They went to Vegas. Just prior to the wheel release they were 60% done developing a gt wheel, f1 wheel, pro shifter and handbrake. They just needed to get the supply chain worked out with such innovative new gear! They were eager to get the wheel out first and the ecosystem was on track for first year release. Fast forward to the job well done vacation. This is a smart team of people and on the first day at the tables they learned to count cards. And they did so as a team. They quit their jobs and now make millions a week storming their way through casinos. Who would have thought, engineers turned millionaires all because of a sim steering wheel. And now there is no team, and the development has been lost with the previous crew. So thats it. They are still searching for a new team to develop. Rumor has it, they have till October.
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Sounds like a very reasonable explanation.
But in all seriousness, I bought the G Pro knowing that the chances that I would ever want an H-shifter and handbrake are very slim, so I am not in that boat of people being outraged about the slowness, but I do get the frustration.
I am very happy with the G Pro set, but I suppose I could be tempted by an alternative wheel if it had some ergonomics more to my taste. Mostly I am thinking of the two rotary knobs - I really don’t like to move my hands that much, so I have (in GT7) assigned ❎⏺️⏹️🔼 to take care of the in-race settings. This works muuuuuch better for me.
Oh, an I have found a solution to the super dry feel of the leather. In this thread I saw at least one other person feeling that the dry feeling was a bit off, so I know I am not the only one. It sort of has the dry feel of paper or cardboard. Anyway I have this leather grease that is an all natural product, and simply applied a little and rubbed it in. After a day or two of use, when the product is all absorbed, the feel of the leather is much more like like leather should feel.
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I didn't say so. Can you name the other bases affected?
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Simucube, Simagic, Moza.
Literally google (wheel brand name here) oscillation.
Literally google (wheel brand name here) oscillation.
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I do agree with you. Despite my silly post, I too purchased knowing that may be it for the line up. And I am very happy with it! I really actually can’t complain, I just like to. 3rd many party shifters are plug and play and easy to add with the right steps. Im in a bit of small window in that I only play GT7/Psvr2. That being said, it often blurs the fact you’re even holding a Logi wheel vs the car being driven wheel in a sense at times for me. You just kind of get lost in the immersion enough so it hasn’t bothered me too much. I always use gloves, I have gone back and forth sometimes wrapping the wheel with foam cycling tape to find a comfortable thickness.
Strangely in Vr I find I only use the thumb stick, options button, ps button and x. I should try other setups. I did cut tiny circles of 1/8 self adhesive foam for the options button and PS button especially. I stacked 2 circles on each button and it makes finding them and clicking a breeze in VR. If the G Pro lineup ends here, I’m still thrilled. It’s a 10/10 for me. If the wheel or pedals were to break on me today, I would order another….today. Again I’m in a small window, but this setup stands tall!
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I assume you are using the thumb stick for the MFD. I did that for a while, but found I would make mistakes - as in getting the angle wrong, so a vertical push would be horizontal. I switched to ⏹️🔼 for selection and ❎⏺️ for down/up and i LOVE the precision of this. You move your hands so very little, and there is this sense of absoluteness. After using these four buttons for MFD, I can not even imagine why anybody would use the two rotary dials.
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I'm not sure if you are trolling, being intentionally obtuse or having a reading comprehension problem.
For the last time: I'm not commenting on oscillations (which every FFB-capable base can be coerced into.)
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What are you commenting on then?
It seems to me you're just trying to provoke an argument.
You think that just because your Simucube base doesn't do that this isn't a trait of DD wheel bases.
@Oshawa-Joe said the issue doesn't appear to be isolated to Logitech and Fanatec DD wheels, and you asked him to name other affected brands, which he did.
Now here you are, saying that you're not commenting on the issue we are discussing.
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Rich,
Usually this prompt is for the controller you use to fire up the console. Then after you select profile with the DS you can fire up the wheel and do the same thing. Is this what you mean?
I noticed that when I turn on the system from my PS app and then startup wheel it seems that sometimes the FFB is off...leading to some of my previous posted issues.
I'm not sure what this is I thought maybe something going on between the PlayStation communicating to the wheel with or without dual shock being in the mix....which seems wonky... But it seems to affect steering angle with GT4 cars and sometimes true force audio
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Read @loudlevin's post (that you replied to earlier) where he describes a "pulsating" feel in the rim. Like the rumble effect on a joypad, to my understanding, which, as I've already mentioned, Fanatec users are also complaining about.
"Moving the wheel around does stop the pulsation," he added, which to me clearly indicates this has nothing to do with the inherent oscillations @Oshawa-Joe kept bringing up.
And I certainly don't want to provoke anybody or anything. My point was that the vibrating/buzzing feel is not a common trait of direct-drive bases, as you suggested earlier.
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I think you have misunderstood @Oshawa-Joe , I think he is referring to the same issue that @loudlevin brought up.
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I disagree - if your wheel is oscillating violently back-and-forth, you don't "mov[e] the wheel around [to] stop the pulsation" as @loudlevin explained.
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