Logitech G Pro Racing Wheel

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Yep, so that tells you the wheel and pedals are working fine - the OLED is purely showing you its output to the host and doesn't reflect in-game response. Check other cars in GT7 and also check in another game.

Same issue in AC so it must be the ps5

***update: booting the PS5 into safe mode clearing the caches (didn’t fix it) then booting to safe mode again and rebuilding the database fixed it. Thanks for the help Rich.
 
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I just got a Logitech G PRO Racing Wheel delivered today from Logitech’s official eBay store, and unfortunately the wheelbase has some major issues right out of the box.

The strange part is that the wheel is not completely dead. Some of the basic control functions work. The platform/Xbox selection buttons respond, the face buttons work in Forza, and the steering input is detected. So at first, it gives the impression that the device is alive.

But the actual wheelbase behavior is very wrong.

The base never performs the expected startup calibration movement. There is no direct-drive force feedback, no torque output, and no TrueForce/haptics behavior. The Settings button on the base also does nothing, completely dead with 3 dots forever moving left to right.

There is also a serious steering-position problem on left rotation. Around -75° left, the wheel suddenly jumps to roughly -435°. Later, around -202° left, it jumps/locks to -540° until about -270°, where it starts behaving normally again. Right rotation from 0 to +540° works normally.

So the control side appears partially functional, but the wheelbase itself seems to have major initialization, force-feedback, and position-reporting problems. This does not feel like a normal setup issue or a minor refurbished-item imperfection. It feels like the core wheelbase functions are defective.

I have video of the behavior as well.

The worst part?

I basically have the components for an entire sim rig on the way, with the only missing piece to my setup is going to be the wheel..
Pretty disappointing experience, especially for my first wheel. I was genuinely excited to finally get into a direct-drive setup.

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Evidence of the fault:
 
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Sorry to hear that. The 3 dots never going away is the indication that there's something wrong. Are you connecting directly to the PC/console using the USB cable that came with it or are you using a USB extension?
 
Sorry to hear that. The 3 dots never going away is the indication that there's something wrong. Are you connecting directly to the PC/console using the USB cable that came with it or are you using a USB extension?
Yup. Same cable it came with, direct to a USB 3.2 Gen 2 no less. I know how peripherals can cause issues with both power and data when split on the same USB enumerator, so I was doing my best from the gate in hopes of bypassing any signal chain issues.

The cable was keyed to the slot on the device, so it does seem to be the correct cable, as well.
 
Got it. And does that behave the same on every USB port on the PC, including ones currently used by other devices? Additionally, if you do have a USB hub, does using that have any effect on this?

If it continues to misbehave in all scenarios then I'm afraid there's an issue with the unit - please contact the support team for an exchange.
 
Got it. And does that behave the same on every USB port on the PC, including ones currently used by other devices? Additionally, if you do have a USB hub, does using that have any effect on this?

If it continues to misbehave in all scenarios then I'm afraid there's an issue with the unit - please contact the support team for an exchange.
I'll take it back out of the box and test across more USB ports.
I've already tried to contact Logitech support a couple of times, but their chats keep routing me from sales rep to sales rep. It's basically a Tech-Support loop, where Logi is paying sales reps to sit on chats passing the same customers to eachother, never landing them where they need to.
They've created maybe 4 or 5 tickets doing this, and the chats themselves eventually bug out because the site seems to confuse the handover; then the bot who is meant to hand out a ticket for the previous conversation never shows up and it becomes a limbo state where none of those emails are responded to.

It's an extremely frustrating experience... I'll probably call today. Though, testing comes first.
 
I'll take it back out of the box and test across more USB ports.
I've already tried to contact Logitech support a couple of times, but their chats keep routing me from sales rep to sales rep. It's basically a Tech-Support loop, where Logi is paying sales reps to sit on chats passing the same customers to eachother, never landing them where they need to.
They've created maybe 4 or 5 tickets doing this, and the chats themselves eventually bug out because the site seems to confuse the handover; then the bot who is meant to hand out a ticket for the previous conversation never shows up and it becomes a limbo state where none of those emails are responded to.

It's an extremely frustrating experience... I'll probably call today. Though, testing comes first.
I’ve had the same experience with Logitech support, atrocious experience. Very frustrating.
 
Let me know post-testing if you do need to return it and give me the latest ticket number so I can escalate it for you.
I'm building a watcher script for the wheel's USB connection to make sure there is no user-error I'm missing here.
The testing resulted in the following;
The exact same failure state on all configurations, including other Logitech-based USB cables for the G Pro Wireless mouse.
Both UBS and Hubs all resulted in the same failure state.

Failure flow:
Disconnected (Both USB/Power) > Connect USB > Connect Power > Power on (with and without wheel)
Without wheel "Please connect wheel" on LED display
With wheel; Same platform selection.

None of the testing cases resulted in the wheel's calibration step when turned on or USB connected/wheel connected/platform selected.
DD and Haptics remain dark.

Upon selecting PC or Xbox (Tried multiple states on multiple USB configurations and Logi cables) the result was the same:
3 dots, infinitely.

The latest ticket is: 17334552
This was the ticket I responded to in hopes I'd get a proper response from the correct department.
I'll stick with this one if it's decided escalation is required.

Edit: Sorry, I'm very involved in trying to get this sorted out I never stopped to thank you. 😅
I appreciate your help, Rich. Thanks, you're the most direct link I've had to Logitech, and I have a reddit user to thank for having directed me to this forum regarding this issue. I'm very appreciative of your assistance!
 
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No worries - I'm on reddit too, so either works :-)

I'll get this escalated with the support team for you. One last thing to note: the Pro and RS50 don't perform a full left/right/centre calibration like the old G-series wheels do. Instead it just gently centres the wheel and then the OLED will show the home screen. Just wanted to set expectations for when you get a working unit.
 
No worries - I'm on reddit too, so either works :-)

I'll get this escalated with the support team for you. One last thing to note: the Pro and RS50 don't perform a full left/right/centre calibration like the old G-series wheels do. Instead it just gently centres the wheel and then the OLED will show the home screen. Just wanted to set expectations for when you get a working unit.
Oh, right. As mentioned; this is my first wheel. I know from videos that it's meant to at least rock. Not the horror stories of people getting their tables flipped on calibration from days old! Haha

Again, thanks for the help, Rich. :cheers:
 
Hey guys, just dropping in to offer some perspective and feedback. As an owner and user of both the Logitech G Pro(former aftwr 2 years) and Fanatec DD Extreme with various rims...

The Logitech is by far your best value and the performance difference is minimal at best.

And...the Logitech G Pro Wheel rim is on par with Fanatec "Podium" rims in feel and quality - comparing against Podium R300, Maybe better.

Logitech is top tier for PS5,.without those G29 emulator gadgets.lol.

And you have @LOGI_Rich here and every other forum to help you with any issues. Richard...you are working well above any expectations I would have for you. Thank you.
 
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Hey guys, just dropping in to offer some perspective and feedback. As an owner and user of both the Logitech G Pro(former aftwr 2 years) and Fanatec DD Extreme with various rims...

The Logitech is by far your best value and the performance difference is minimal at best.

And...the Logitech G Pro Wheel rim is on par with Fanatec "Podium" rims in feel and quality - comparing against Podium R300, Maybe better.

Logitech is top tier for PS5,.without those G29 emulator gadgets.lol.

And you have @LOGI_Rich here and every other forum to help you with any issues. Richard...you are working well above any expectations I would have for you. Thank you.

The pedal offerings and shifter comparisons would be my related questions
 
The pedal offerings and shifter comparisons would be my related questions
Can’t comment on pedals, but the Fanatec shifter feels just as good as the Logitech one, but offers the ability to switch quickly between sequential and H pattern. If memory serves, I haven’t used it in a while, it’s a push down lockout mechanism vs a push through lockout. Shifter throw is longer on the Fanatec if memory serves. Price is about 2x as much though, but value-wise I say it’s on par if not better due to the dual use aspect.
 
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The pedal offerings and shifter comparisons would be my related questions
Ive been using Fanatec pedals ( CSL Elite V1 and V2) since 2017 and its the reason why I switched. I started having a lot of issues with the drivehub that gave me compatability with the G Pro.
 
Hey guys, just dropping in to offer some perspective and feedback. As an owner and user of both the Logitech G Pro(former aftwr 2 years) and Fanatec DD Extreme with various rims...

The Logitech is by far your best value and the performance difference is minimal at best.

And...the Logitech G Pro Wheel rim is on par with Fanatec "Podium" rims in feel and quality - comparing against Podium R300, Maybe better.

Logitech is top tier for PS5,.without those G29 emulator gadgets.lol.

And you have @LOGI_Rich here and every other forum to help you with any issues. Richard...you are working well above any expectations I would have for you. Thank you.
I have already given positive feedback about the G pro range.

My equipment is now complete (base, multiple steering wheels, pedals, H-shifter, handbrake) and I absolutely don't regret every euro invested.

And I am almost certain that I would be happy for many years.

By the way, at a time when some competitors are announcing PS5 products, I really want to remain faithful to the brand for flight sim accessories.

If @LOGI_Rich would be kind enough to make us a small communication, even if cryptic 😂 ... it would allow me to wait, if necessary.
 
I have already given positive feedback about the G pro range.

My equipment is now complete (base, multiple steering wheels, pedals, H-shifter, handbrake) and I absolutely don't regret every euro invested.

And I am almost certain that I would be happy for many years.

By the way, at a time when some competitors are announcing PS5 products, I really want to remain faithful to the brand for flight sim accessories.

If @LOGI_Rich would be kind enough to make us a small communication, even if cryptic 😂 ... it would allow me to wait, if necessary.
It was only my confidence in the Fantec CSL Elite V2s that pushed me into the Fanatec ecosystem, but I love my Fanatec gear. Its definitely quirky and only for sim enthusiasts willing to deal with a few headaches. Also a lot more $$$. Oh, Fanatec is so much better because they have so many more options for wheels...yeah they cost about as much as an RS wheel and base...for just the wheel!!!
But no chance I turn back from the dark side now.
 
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Hey @LOGI_Rich 👋

I recently learned about the existence of these Simnet pedals

They can be made PS5 compatible by plugging them to the Fanatec wheelbases through the RJ12 port. Is there any sort of workaround you're familiar with that would make these pedals compatible with the G Pro wheelbase?

I like the Pro pedals but the limited adjustability is causing me problems. I've had them for 1.5y and still haven't found the perfect driving position.
 
Hey @LOGI_Rich 👋

I recently learned about the existence of these Simnet pedals

They can be made PS5 compatible by plugging them to the Fanatec wheelbases through the RJ12 port. Is there any sort of workaround you're familiar with that would make these pedals compatible with the G Pro wheelbase?

I like the Pro pedals but the limited adjustability is causing me problems. I've had them for 1.5y and still haven't found the perfect driving position.
i really would like to know this too, if there is a way i will buy them immediately
 

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Sorry to hear that. The 3 dots never going away is the indication that there's something wrong. Are you connecting directly to the PC/console using the USB cable that came with it or are you using a USB extension?
Hi Rich

Can you please give some more information on this? Is the "three dot" display explicitly designed to be an error code? Do you have it listed as an outcome to actual specific known issues....? Do you know what issues cause this to happen? Does replacing the base always fix the issue?

I only ask all of this because I have had the three dot issue, and I think I have it resolved it, or at least, narrowed it down to two possibilities, and I can get my wheel working when the three dots appear.
 
Funny to mention it but pedals cable did "break". Close to the USB A side that goes to the wheel, where the plug ends and has this kind of protector. The rubber isolation broke and exposed shielding? I did wrap that bit with electrical tape. Also before someone says user error. I never pulled or caught those cables by mistake.
Did you get a permanent resolution to your "three dot" issue...?

Strangely enough, i also had a worn down/broken pedals cable at the joint at the USB-A end... but I don't think this is/was actually the problem. But if taping it up fixed it for you, can you let me know?
 
Hi Rich

Can you please give some more information on this? Is the "three dot" display explicitly designed to be an error code? Do you have it listed as an outcome to actual specific known issues....? Do you know what issues cause this to happen? Does replacing the base always fix the issue?

I only ask all of this because I have had the three dot issue, and I think I have it resolved it, or at least, narrowed it down to two possibilities, and I can get my wheel working when the three dots appear.
The three dots appear whilst different aspects of the wheel check in with each other during startup. Once everything is successfully checked in and working then they go away and things work correctly. If they never go away then there's an issue with something not reporting in correctly and you won't get full function of the wheel, usually force feedback.

There are external factors that can cause the issues with everything reporting in correctly, such as an excessively long, poor quality USB cable/extension, or even ground loop issues in the complete setup that the wheel is in. I've seen issues like this caused by a poor quality HDMI cable between the console and TV, for example.
 
The three dots appear whilst different aspects of the wheel check in with each other during startup. Once everything is successfully checked in and working then they go away and things work correctly. If they never go away then there's an issue with something not reporting in correctly and you won't get full function of the wheel, usually force feedback.

There are external factors that can cause the issues with everything reporting in correctly, such as an excessively long, poor quality USB cable/extension, or even ground loop issues in the complete setup that the wheel is in. I've seen issues like this caused by a poor quality HDMI cable between the console and TV, for example.
Thank you for your response, which makes sense to me, and the "ground loop" problem probably perfectly describes the cause of my "three dots" fault. I think in my case it is an external issue - but this is an issue that has only just occurred in the last few weeks, having used the Pro wheel for at least 3000 hours since October 2022, without any sort of issue (BTW, an absolutely wonderful experience, for 3000 hours, and hopefully many more to come). To potentially help others, here is my current workaround (as crazy as it might seem), for my particular issue:

Issue: The Pro Wheel does not always enter the calibration phase at start-up, and leaves the LCD in a state where it shows the "three dot" animation. This is an intermittent fault, which seems to occur randomly. (You have explained there are potentially a number of checks that need to "pass" in order to complete the start-up, so this is quite difficult to de-bug...). The LCD menu is then unavailable and force-feedback is disabled, but everything else works perfectly normally (including Playstation controller functions, etc.).

Cable Tests: I excluded the possibility (or some possibilities) of a fault with connection to the removable wheel by starting the unit without the wheel. I excluded the possibility (or some possibilities) of a connection fault between the wheel-base and device (PC/PS5) via the USB comms cable. In both of these cases, if the USB cable is not connected or if the wheel is not connected, the start-up process doesn't even reach the "three dot" screen - so those basic checks are assumed (by me) to have "passed" when they are connected.

Workaround: After switching off the wheel-base with a long-press of the red button, isolate the power to the wheel at the mains connection plug by removing the mains plug from the wall, or by using a mains switch to isolate the power supply from the house power supply. When you next want to use the wheel (leave it at least ten minutes), start the device (PC/console) and start your application (game), and then plug the wheel-base power supply plug back in or un-isolate it with the mains switch, and then immediately short-press the red start button. Never leave the power supply connected to the mains when you are not using the wheel.

Explanation: My wheel-base is connected to the mains socket on the wall via a series of multi-gang power cables which also provide sockets for TV, PS5, XBox, AV Amp, Tuner, CD Player, 2 x PCs, VR power supply, printer, broadband hub, USB hub router, various lamps console controller chargers, etc. My Pro wheel-base worked perfectly as part of this group of devices for three years, but a few weeks ago I re-arranged the power cabling to rationalise them into groups (audio/internet/etc.) and to add more provision for 5V chargers. I think the Pro wheel is now sensitive to the new arrangement - the earthing has probably changed, or is temperamental (maybe an oxidised connection somewhere, etc.). A best solution would probably be to plug the wheel-base power supply into its own individual mains socket at the wall. This isn't practical for me, but I will be upgrading my multi-gang extension cables to new higher quality ones. In the meantime, the workaround above works for me - 100% of the time. I am also trying to get in the habit of isolating as many devices as possible when they are not being used (saves electricity).

Questions and Suggestions for Rich
Question 1: I am wondering whether the sensitivity (with potential to fail as described above) has other factors. So - would I benefit from buying a new power supply...? Does the power supply degrade over time, or with use (heavily used.... 3000+ hours)... or does it have a limited life-span....? Would a new power supply be more resilient to ground loop issues...?
Question 2: Are there any consumable parts on the motor assembly, such as bushes or windings, that degrade with age/use (again - I have had 3000+ hours use so far). My wheel is out of warranty, and has easily performed its function with fantastic value over nearly four years - is there any benefit for me if I now open up the wheel-base unit and deep-clean the internal mechanisms? As an aside, when the wheel works it still performs as well, if not better (firmware updated), as it did when it was brand new... ;-)
Question 3: Is there a way to hard reset the wheel-base (with physical buttons)? Although my PC recognises my wheel, the latest version of G-Hub doesn't see the wheel at all, and I was wondering if a hard reset (if available) would fix this. I think your firmware updates (or my game/application updates) have improved the wheel FFB over the last three/four years.

Suggestion 1: Include a hard physical switch on future models of the power supply.
Suggestion 2: Let the LCD screen report an actual error code if any start-up system check doesn't pass, rather than leave the screen locked on the "three dot" animation - maybe this could be pushed to firmware...? Or maybe the LCD screen could display progress through the checks, and stop at the one that doesn't "pass"....? This will help debug future cable/power issues, especially for new purchasers.
FYI (Rich): I did reach out to Logitech for support, and for your reference/interest my ticket (which should be considered closed, with very many thanks to the whole team for their efforts, was: 17243850). Thank you, in addition, for contributing to this thread - I only found this thread after my ticket was closed. As an aside, I now note that another user in this forum had an issue with the USB cable to the pedals set (soft cable not terminating deep enough into the USB-A encasement), so Suggestion 3 would be to review the design/supplier of this cable - as it would be a shame if a brilliantly wonderful £1000 device was let down by its cables. (NB: I do not think this is/was the cause of my "three dot" issue, as described above).

CONCLUSION
If you have got this far, well done... ;-) Just to be clear - I am not complaining about my Pro wheel. It has easily been one of my best ever purchases. It has excellent build quality and superbly immersive performance that completely transforms your experience on any game that is compatible with it, on PC or PS5 (and no doubt XBox). It was a slight pain that I needed to get a pass-through device for the shifter, but that device (a brake pressure dial) has proved to be one of my favourite features in my set-up. I would 100% recommend purchase of the pro wheel, the pedals, the shifter and the brake pressure dial ("racing adapter").
 
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