Logitech G29 H-pattern manual shifter not working online GT7

[Nitrous Ninja]

I use a G29 wheel with H-pattern manual shifter. It works fine in campaign single player however, when I try shifter online its not working anymore. I went out and tried it in single player mode again and it worked perfectly. Before Turismo software update 1.15 my setup was working fine online but since update H-pattern gear shift not working online. Has the H-pattern manual shifter been disabled, banned? Anyone else have same issue?

 

[Redneckchef]

I use a G29 wheel with H-pattern manual shifter. It works fine in campaign single player however, when I try shifter online its not working anymore. I went out and tried it in single player mode again and it worked perfectly. Before Turismo software update 1.15 my setup was working fine online but since update H-pattern gear shift not working online. Has the H-pattern manual shifter been disabled, banned? Anyone else have same issue?

There have been suggestions it was banned from sport mode as it was giving an unfair advantage in a few of the cars. To add to that you'll notice that the handbrake has been turned off as well as people were using the handbrake to increase turn in on some cars in certain situations.

 

[Nitrous Ninja]

There have been suggestions it was banned from sport mode as it was giving an unfair advantage in a few of the cars. To add to that you'll notice that the handbrake has been turned off as well as people were using the handbrake to increase turn in on some cars in certain situations.

You would think if its now banned that Polyphony Digital would at least let us know and put it in their patch notes. Pretty sneaky of the developer that they're trying to hide it, just makes them look dishonest.

 

[FPV MIC]

You would think if its now banned that Polyphony Digital would at least let us know and put it in their patch notes. Pretty sneaky of the developer that they're trying to hide it, just makes them look dishonest.

It was first disabled in sport mode in GT Sport when people found a way to use it to gain an unfair advantage. I'm not sure if PD ever fixed the issue but it would be typical of PD to not fix it and just keep the shifter banned.

 

[Redneckchef]

You would think if its now banned that Polyphony Digital would at least let us know and put it in their patch notes. Pretty sneaky of the developer that they're trying to hide it, just makes them look dishonest.

It would be reasonable for PD to notify us, but they're not known for that kind of communication

 

[Yard_Sale]

Hopefully someone else can confirm or deny. I love using my H-shifter in Daily A.

No clue how it would yield an unfair advantage though. The clutch implementation is junk and it’s sooooo easy to get mis-shifts

 

[Nitrous Ninja]

Hopefully someone else can confirm or deny. I love using my H-shifter in Daily A.

No clue how it would yield an unfair advantage though. The clutch implementation is junk and it’s sooooo easy to get mis-shifts

Would be good if an employee from Polyphony Digital could jump on forum and clarify!

 

[Redneckchef]

Hopefully someone else can confirm or deny. I love using my H-shifter in Daily A.

No clue how it would yield an unfair advantage though. The clutch implementation is junk and it’s sooooo easy to get mis-shifts

The problem is that it isn't an advantage on all cars or all combos for the cars it helps. So instead of trying to work to fix those certain issues with specific cars and combos they throw a blanket ban on the shifter. Another driver I raced against was gaining almost 0.7 a lap on one combo using it compared to everyone else. This is exactly the same thing they did instead of fixing it in GTS as well. And I don't remember if they made any communication about it then either.

 

[Yard_Sale]

The problem is that it isn't an advantage on all cars or all combos for the cars it helps. So instead of trying to work to fix those certain issues with specific cars and combos they throw a blanket ban on the shifter. Another driver I raced against was gaining almost 0.7 a lap on one combo using it compared to everyone else. This is exactly the same thing they did instead of fixing it in GTS as well. And I don't remember if they made any communication about it then either.

So PD did nerf it in the dailies?

 

[Redneckchef]

So PD did nerf it in the dailies?

Yeah. Shifter and handbrake both nerfed

 

[FPV MIC]

The problem is that it isn't an advantage on all cars or all combos for the cars it helps. So instead of trying to work to fix those certain issues with specific cars and combos they throw a blanket ban on the shifter. Another driver I raced against was gaining almost 0.7 a lap on one combo using it compared to everyone else. This is exactly the same thing they did instead of fixing it in GTS as well. And I don't remember if they made any communication about it then either.

Wasn't it with the cars that didn't have racing transmissions? Something about being able to use the shifter and paddles in combination and pre-selecting some gears with the shifter to get faster changes.

 

[Skinny McLean]

Back in GTS the problem was that it's possible to use both the H-shifter and the paddle shifters at the same time. That (and the fact that manually shifting with the H-shifter was faster than with the paddles, due to the very slow auto-clutch) was exploited.

Example: Imagine driving one of the slower cars at Tsukuba where only the second and third gears are needed. You'd leave the H-shifter stick in third, and while braking for a turn you'd use the paddles to shift down into second, then when accelerating you'd briefly engage the clutch and the car would change quickly into third. Then rinse and repeat for ~half a second advantage per lap.

I don't know if it's the same in GT7, but if it is, a smarter way (not a PD thing - I know) to stop the exploit would be to disable the game's automatic shifter mode switching - like in every other sim where you have to select gear switching mode before entering a race.

 

[Nitrous Ninja]

Back in GTS the problem was that it's possible to use both the H-shifter and the paddle shifters at the same time. That (and the fact that manually shifting with the H-shifter was faster than with the paddles, due to the very slow auto-clutch) was exploited.

Example: Imagine driving one of the slower cars at Tsukuba where only the second and third gears are needed. You'd leave the H-shifter stick in third, and while braking for a turn you'd use the paddles to shift down into second, then when accelerating you'd briefly engage the clutch and the car would change quickly into third. Then rinse and repeat for ~half a second advantage per lap.

I don't know if it's the same in GT7, but if it is, a smarter way (not a PD thing - I know) to stop the exploit would be to disable the game's automatic shifter mode switching - like in every other sim where you have to select gear switching mode before entering a race.

 

[F30clubman]

Has the H-pattern manual shifter been disabled, banned? Anyone else have same issue?

It being disabled in GT Sport, I thought PD made good progress when I found G29 shifter and clutch enabled at the launch of GT7.

But now it does not matter any more. I stopped buying a PS online subscription as grinding for Hagerty cars has been taking all my GT7 time since 2 months, and counting ...