how would I do this
ok thanksJust for the record if you research it or read the description in the game for the Pozzi Motorsport Camaro RS it will tell you that it is a RACE CAR, along with that the Red Devil is not a muscle car either it is a heavily modified 1969 Camaro. Just thought I'd point that out to everyone
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its a muscle car broJust for the record if you research it or read the description in the game for the Pozzi Motorsport Camaro RS it will tell you that it is a RACE CAR, along with that the Red Devil is not a muscle car either it is a heavily modified 1969 Camaro. Just thought I'd point that out to everyone
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a race car is like the Challenger "RM" Race Mod or Challenger TC if you look up the Red Devil in real life, (which is owned my Mark Stielow) its a fully driven street car, and so is the Pozzi camaro
its a muscle car bro
The point he's trying to make is that the cars he mentioned have modern motors and/or suspension so they're no longer a classic vehicle, but instead more or less a shell of an old car sitting on a brand new chassis. Car enthusiasts and collectors would also agree that they're modern hotrods and no longer classified as original classic muscle/sports cars.
The problem is that they use those cars in classic muscle rooms, when they're not. My opinion is that muscle died after '72, and that domestics from the '90s or newer would be considered a "high-performance"/sports car, super car, or a mixture of the two. Some people even consider the '78 Firebird as classic muscle, which isn't even close.just to be clear , nothing to do with classic.
im referring to the 69 camaro red devil as an American Muscle car.
the rest of the list yes and no. Arts vette and Jays olds not muscle cars.
Then again like shells said it all comes down to an opinion,its all a part of bench racing.
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lol, you said those cars were not muscle cars because they have carbon fiber parts and modern suspension 
......well if thats true then according to you there techniquely isn't any muscle cars in the game.....this is why when we upgrade the cars "fully tuned"(as one might say) do we not put carbon fiber parts, stripped interior and so on such as (Stage 3 weight deduction) {Read description it says there}and once we equip (Fully customizable suspension) <---this would be considered modern suspension since most "muscle cars" came equipped with leaf spring,Coil's,or control arm ect.. and not with adjustable coil over shocks 
so once we do this to our cars they become.......here it comes ...."Race Cars" is again according to what you put. Sooo if im looking for a muscle car lobby online and it says "Classic Muscle Cars 1/4" i have to "according to you" use lets say for example a 1970 nova SS with No weight deduction parts or suspension parts.
We tried racing stock horsepower or semi-modified muscle cars when Slash had his drag nights, and a whopping 4 or 5 people showed up on a weekly basis. Atleast we're using actual original muscle before adding the parts.so wait a sec shells, you confused me
so wait a sec shells, you confused me
Shells,
nothing like a bench race
Why do you have to type soooooooo muchI was referring to stock specs, if you read the book of a post above the debate you will see that. The point I'm trying to make as Shake said, these cars come equipped STOCK with modern day motors which we all know muscle doesn't exist anymore, there is no such category, all American cars made nowadays are in the Sports Car category the GT500 is a great example of this. Saying these are muscle cars is again like saying the Venom GT is a Sports Car, they took the Lotus Exige constructed the body and chassis out of lighter more modern day materials and slapped a 7.0L (427ci) LSX Turbocharged V8 in it as opposed to the original 1.8L I4 or the original 1.8L supercharged I4. This is a considered to be a heavily modified Lotus Exige, people say it's Hennessey's own car but saying that is like saying the Tommykaira M25 is its own car when it's a heavily modified R33. Again my point here is that these cars were muscle before they slapped the modern day motors in them. The Red Devil has a combination of an LS7 and LS9 motor and we all know where those engines come from, if the Red Devil is muscle then so is the ZR1 but we all know that the ZR1 is a SUPER CAR. Try to race the Premium Camaro SS '69 against the Red Devil and you will see the MAJOR difference, the Z28 is the real muscle and the Red Devel is a heavily modified version of it which is not considered muscle, just because it has a V8 doesn't make it muscle, if that is the logic that is being used here then I guess the Ferrari 458 is a muscle car because it has a 4.5L V8. Really try to see my point here, it's annoying when you go into a muscle lobby and everyone is running a Cobra, Red Devil and other cars that aren't muscle, this is the same debate everyone has about the Cobra being a muscle car which we know it's not, I just used that as an example by the way. If I have to I will type out the in game vehicle descriptions of each of these cars which I'm sure Kaz got the information for from the car creators themselves. Good ole car debates
Also is there any proof that that Facebook page is run by Mark Stielow himself? That could just be a poser for all we know.
making me read all that 
Why do you have to type soooooooo much
