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If your hifi doesn't have optical then you won't be able to run audio via that (optical out on PS3). Does your HiFi have HDMI in/out? In terms of output from your PS3 you've only got two options. HDMI and Optical. If your TV is taking the HDMI and your hifi doesn't have an optical in then I can't really think of anything else. My dads Yamaha Amp has HDMI in, so you can plug your PS3 in via this which then forward video to the TV and audio to the surround sound/whatever you programme as the output.
 
My Hifi is a technics so yeah it's alright I suppose I haven't been running anything via the Hifi yet only moved into this address a few weeks ago so its not all setup all I did was plug the audio/video wire (the standard one you get with ps3) into ps3 and plugged wires I to aux on back of Hifi but there was nothing I am going to have a tinker in a bit to try solve the proble
Atm I am running my ps3 via Hdmi and plugging headphones into tv they sound so much better but I think they will sound even better also my tv has the slot for the optical audio cable is this something I will need my Hifi doesn't have the slot.?
You'll want to set your PS3 audio settings to: multi out - yes. This way you'll get up to 5.1 sound through the main output (likely hdmi at present), and stereo sound through all of the others (including your analogue red and white connectors).
 
Has anyone managed to get game sound out of the USB slot into headphones? Audio output in PS3 doesn't show USB anywhere but the Accessory picks up the USB headphones & mic perfectly. I feel a feature suggestion coming on.

The only headphones that reach the tv/5.1/ps3 are USB and the only USB slot is on the PS3.
 
@LogiForce, you forget how important is needle sharpness when making master vinyl, wider needle and you got bad quality, many cheap vinyls are made with "wider" needle and quality is not so good ;)
Same thing when playing vinyls, you need proper sharp needle for proper audio.
 
Wow £4000 im no where near that My budget is around £100 tops for now
Go with a pair of Turtle Beach headsets. For use with PS3 it's best to use your Red, White, Yellow cords that come with the PS3 and run them through the splitter the headset comes with, assuming you use HDMI for your output.
 
@LogiForce, you forget how important is needle sharpness when making master vinyl, wider needle and you got bad quality, many cheap vinyls are made with "wider" needle and quality is not so good ;)
Same thing when playing vinyls, you need proper sharp needle for proper audio.

With 20 professional vinyl cutting plants worldwide, 16 in the USA and the other 4 I believe in Japan. Do you think this is an issue with new vinyl? Old records definitely do differ in quality, especially the compilation albums are often low quality. Personally I think all factories, looking at the quality of new vinyl records I bought, produce the highest quality as vinyl records have become a niche music erea full of audiophiles.

Producing records on different vinyl weights does require a remaster for that specific weight. After all you can press a 120 gram master record into a 180 gram piece of vinyl, but that still has the dynamics of the groove depth of a 120 gram record.
So when buying a 180 gram vinyl it often says it is remastered, and often to make a new master for that vinyl thickness/weight.
The more weight the better, but not always. Technically it just offers more dynamics in a deeper groove, but not every record does per definition make use of the extra depth.
All I can say is I love the heardbeat on the beginning of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon on my heavy weighted new vinyl. Nice and deep sounding bass and very natural. ;)
 
Producing records on different vinyl weights does require a remaster for that specific weight. After all you can press a 120 gram master record into a 180 gram piece of vinyl, but that still has the dynamics of the groove depth of a 120 gram record.
So when buying a 180 gram vinyl it often says it is remastered, and often to make a new master for that vinyl thickness/weight.
The more weight the better, but not always. Technically it just offers more dynamics in a deeper groove, but not every record does per definition make use of the extra depth.
All I can say is I love the heardbeat on the beginning of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon on my heavy weighted new vinyl. Nice and deep sounding bass and very natural. ;)
More space fro deeper deeper cut = More thickness = More weight = Wider audio spectrum on low end sounds

And all this going on assumption at original record is made using proper methods, using sufficient rate of sampling.
All modern vinyls went thru ADAC, and that digital part is crucial to quality. (few times conversion before on vinyl)
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Producing records on different vinyl weights does require a remaster for that specific weight. After all you can press a 120 gram master record into a 180 gram piece of vinyl, but that still has the dynamics of the groove depth of a 120 gram record.
So when buying a 180 gram vinyl it often says it is remastered, and often to make a new master for that vinyl thickness/weight.
The more weight the better, but not always. Technically it just offers more dynamics in a deeper groove, but not every record does per definition make use of the extra depth.
All I can say is I love the heardbeat on the beginning of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon on my heavy weighted new vinyl. Nice and deep sounding bass and very natural. ;)

One of the main drivers for remastering older recordings is that records were made to fit an era. For example, listen to The Beatles early recordings and then listen to the BBC recordings of the same time. The difference is phenomenal! The records are very bright and the BBC quite darker, especially in bass. The reason: hi-fi systems didn't exist yet and most people listened to records on a player that had a small mono speaker built into it. If the bass was too high, the record would skip! But the BBC recordings were aired over the radio. So again most people had radios with a small mono speaker, which the BBC compensated by making the recording darker with more bass to get a better fidelity out of the recording. Producers have always considered the intended listeners typical equipment for mastering :)

Pink Floyd was very avant garde and pushed the audio envelope. They were really forefathers of modern recorded sound, and there is always a bit of audio magic in their records!

Edit: forgot to mention the headphones... I've played with a few different headphone set-ups for the PS3. My favourites are the cheap PS3 ones from Sony. The more expensive ones are not very comfortable (head strap gives me a headache), and the audio is no better. I'm seriously considering some Astra A40 though, I like all I've read and have really enjoyed the optical output when I ran through my home theatre system (it has an Apple TV plugged into it now :))
 
More space fro deeper deeper cut = More thickness = More weight = Wider audio spectrum on low end sounds

And all this going on assumption at original record is made using proper methods, using sufficient rate of sampling.
All modern vinyls went thru ADAC, and that digital part is crucial to quality. (few times conversion before on vinyl)
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True, but I thought of a theory as to why even digital remastering sounds better on a record. When cutting the master the lathe can't simply record in bits, so you get the flow back in the wave form on the vinyl. Which then makes the sound that gets played back more fluid, and more pleasant to the ears. Where a Compact Disc can still have a 'choppy' digital looking wave form coming out of the CD-player's analog output.

In any case, a good clean record is more soothing to listen to than any digital form of audio playback. Especially when played back at considerable volume. Digital becomes painful and pressuring to the ears rather quickly I have noticed, which is not the case with a clean vinyl record (knosti disco anti-stat ftw!).


One of the main drivers for remastering older recordings is that records were made to fit an era. For example, listen to The Beatles early recordings and then listen to the BBC recordings of the same time. The difference is phenomenal! The records are very bright and the BBC quite darker, especially in bass. The reason: hi-fi systems didn't exist yet and most people listened to records on a player that had a small mono speaker built into it. If the bass was too high, the record would skip! But the BBC recordings were aired over the radio. So again most people had radios with a small mono speaker, which the BBC compensated by making the recording darker with more bass to get a better fidelity out of the recording. Producers have always considered the intended listeners typical equipment for mastering :)

Pink Floyd was very avant garde and pushed the audio envelope. They were really forefathers of modern recorded sound, and there is always a bit of audio magic in their records!

Edit: forgot to mention the headphones... I've played with a few different headphone set-ups for the PS3. My favourites are the cheap PS3 ones from Sony. The more expensive ones are not very comfortable (head strap gives me a headache), and the audio is no better. I'm seriously considering some Astra A40 though, I like all I've read and have really enjoyed the optical output when I ran through my home theatre system (it has an Apple TV plugged into it now :))

I totally agree with you, pilmat. Just got a record collection or compilation records from 1951 to 1979. You can really hear how the recording equipment and also mastering techniques have evolved when going through those years
Even when the records themselves are just cheap 120 gram vinyl records with shallow grooves. That is another thing I noticed. Those light vinyl records end up having more issues with dust (pops and crackles) than a 180 gram or heavier record.

But yeah, mastering for vinyl has definitely improved over the years. Even in the past 20 years when records disappeared from the music stores. Although it is coming back. Which brings me to the fear that quality might drop again as soon and if vinyl picks up again.
 
I have a solution - sorry if it was mentioned. I wanted good sound through standard over the ear headphones but my TV does not have a headphone out, only audio out which sounds bad and is too quiet. Tried wireless headphones but got lots of distortion.

So I used the trick of sending audio out both the HDMI and the RCA cables from the PS3 and bought a headphone amp for $13.. it required a RCA (red & white) to 1/4 stereo headphone converter and a 1/4 to 3.5mm stereo headphone converter.

The amp can be bought online.. and can actually output to 4 headphones at the same time, also nice for audio strait into recording devices or for using multiple headphones for the same TV while gaming, movies etc.. when you need to be quiet. - The only issue is there is no EQ adjustment for Bass, Mid, Treble.. Even works for amping an electric guitar to headphones I am told.

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