Man Shot on London Underground Was NOT Linked to Terror Attacks.....

[slackbladder]

I did see plain clothes police on tv with weapons, though they had their caps on.
This is not like other times and other places. If they were covert Police following a suspect then they would'nt be in full uniform and armour, would they?

 

[Flame-returns]

I think they blew their cover upon yelling "Armed police, stop or we will fire"

 

[slackbladder]

Indeed. I do have a link from the BBC by their security correspondant. He seems to know what he is talking about and almost certainly knows more about what happend then anyone on this forum.BBC News
In it he mentions there have been plain clothes Police with assault rifles and how strange that is to see here in London (possibly anywhere in the UK). Though not specifically to do with the shooting it does show that the modus operandi of the Police is different now due to the unique problems presented by suicide bombers.

 

[Jacks]

Indeed. I do have a link from the BBC by their security correspondant. He seems to know what he is talking about and almost certainly knows more about what happend then anyone on this forum.BBC News
In it he mentions there have been plain clothes Police with assault rifles and how strange that is to see here in London (possibly anywhere in the UK). Though not specifically to do with the shooting it does show that the modus operandi of the Police is different now due to the unique problems presented by suicide bombers.

Knowing a bit about guns, assault rifles arn't the kind of thing you could hide easily most tend to be between 60cm and 100cm long, so i don't understand why the police would let plain clothes policeman stand in a tube station or on the streets of london carrying visible assault rifles. Unless they where with other visible police officers.

Also there is no way the police would actually use assault rifles in central london, if fired at close range they tend to go through the victim and ricochet off hard objects, this would be chaos in a crowded area.

 

[donbenni]

If they had anything, it would be HK MP5s or similar. We're not talking about full blown M16s etc.

Apparently the Brazilian guy's visa had expired. Perhaps Ken is cracking down on imigration?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4713753.stm

 

[sukerkin]

I'd guess at MP5's too rather than accept a journo's sensationalist tag of Assault Rifles (still, that's better than their normal reference term ... Machine Guns !).

I've seen armed police a few times in real life (once when I did jury service and another time when we had an armed robber loose on the industrial estate where I work). There is definately something rather sobering about seeing uniformed officers in body-armour and carrying MP5's on English streets. I know that they're for my protection rather than my oppression but I'm still, in the main, against the whole principle (this doesn't mean I don't think it's a practical necessity by the way, just that I regret that necessity exists).

No doubt, as I've said previously, we'll learn the 'truth' of all these matters as time goes by.

 

[slackbladder]

I'd guess at MP5's too rather than accept a journo's sensationalist tag of Assault Rifles (still, that's better than their normal reference term ... Machine Guns !).

I've seen armed police a few times in real life (once when I did jury service and another time when we had an armed robber loose on the industrial estate where I work). There is definately something rather sobering about seeing uniformed officers in body-armour and carrying MP5's on English streets. I know that they're for my protection rather than my oppression but I'm still, in the main, against the whole principle (this doesn't mean I don't think it's a practical necessity by the way, just that I regret that necessity exists).

No doubt, as I've said previously, we'll learn the 'truth' of all these matters as time goes by.

I have been to Heathrow and seen armed Police. Also when I arrived in Fukuoka, Japan there were armed Police. In many respects I never gave them a second look.

MP5's were what I saw when seeing this unravel on TV...even with plain clothes Police. I distinctly remember because one plain clothes Policeman I saw with an MP5 was wearing a bright pink shirt. How strange, I thought.

I will say that I am more likely to believe what this "journo"says than any forumer. Of course some people have a habitual cynicsm and distrust of the media and as such would'nt believe anything they say. I however am not so cynical, though ultimately I except that they could be wrong.

Well, we have to wait for the full details to be disclosed for the facts to be known.