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I wonder if they'll just not classify the GT-ONE, like they've done with the Escudo. Needless to say I'm absolutely delighted that this car is appearing again - it is a true Gran Turismo classic. Should have been in at launch, but oh well.

Fairly ambivalent about the R8 V10 and the Urus. I don't object to the Urus actually - it could be an absolute monster on the dirt and snow tracks, hopefully with some Gr. B style visual mods. It may be an SUV, but it's still a powerful car. At least it won't be completely useless, like the ambulance.
 
Has the gt one actually been confirmed? We’ve gone from people talking like the Ferrari 488 is coming this month to the gt-one. My bet is neither of these cars arrive this month
 
I'm just amazed that with all this TS020 talk we've not heard a peep from that guy who has been posting since 2018 that he knows it's definitely coming to GT soon because the guy at the Toyota museum told him they'd scanned it. Gilt-edged opportunity.
 
we've not heard a peep from that guy who has been posting since 2018 that he knows it's definitely coming to GT soon because the guy at the Toyota museum told him they'd scanned it.
Does his name start with an N? Now that I think about it, there is a familiar name here...

And for context, here is the origin. (2022)
 
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Has the gt one actually been confirmed? We’ve gone from people talking like the Ferrari 488 is coming this month to the gt-one. My bet is neither of these cars arrive this month
Until Kaz post the shilouettes will be confirmed, but the leak is coming from a reliable dataminer, is highly probable that it is correct, even though not 100% (is possible the car is delayed or canned for any reason, just remember the deltawing drama on GT6 or Lotus on GT sport)
 
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What do tractors and the Urus have in common? Not much.

And yet according to him, he mentions "Stick to what your good at" and guess what Lamborghini was doing before they made cars? Like I said, they seem to be good at that.
It’s a problem because SUVs are dumb. I already stated the obvious in a previous post. They are heavy and tall. This has negative implications for fuel/energy consumption, general traffic safety and handling experience. The practicality they offer is not much better than a sleek station wagon, which does not suffer much from the above mentioned problems. SUVs are just a poor fashion trend that needs to end.

Notice I didn't quote your posts because I felt you made decent points, whereas his just reek of "Its not a sports car so bad" (Along with the "Not made with Passion" thing, making it seem as if Lamborghini wasn't owned by a giant Automobile company and they were still like Pagani)
That’s an off-roader. It has more capabilities in common with tractors than the Urus.
And yet, not the first time Lamborghini made something that wasn't a car.
What a classy successor to the GTC4Lusso. NOT.
Seemed like he was implying Ferrari wouldn't make an SUV by bringing up Enzo and yet...

Granted, Fiat might've also said "Screw your traditions, make one", but still.
 
Remember how they added the original Porsche 996 GT3 back in GT Sport and not the facelifted model? They deliberately chose the older car, so my guess is that PD is unbothered by such things. So am I to be honest.
This is because the 996 GT3 is Kaz's own vehicle. And for some reason he is obsessed with it... it's been in almost every game in one way or another... ruf ruf cough
 
And yet according to him, he mentions "Stick to what your good at" and guess what Lamborghini was doing before they made cars? Like I said, they seem to be good at that.


Notice I didn't quote your posts because I felt you made decent points, whereas his just reek of "Its not a sports car so bad" (Along with the "Not made with Passion" thing, making it seem as if Lamborghini wasn't owned by a giant Automobile company and they were still like Pagani)

And yet, not the first time Lamborghini made something that wasn't a car.

Seemed like he was implying Ferrari wouldn't make an SUV by bringing up Enzo and yet...

Granted, Fiat might've also said "Screw your traditions, make one", but still.
I'm very aware of what Lamborghini did/does (different company) with agricultural vehicles and Ferrari's SUV etc. And I said I don't have a problem with SUVs per see. I'm not inferring they can't make SUVs either, just that what they have, and other brands have produced, in my opinion, is not "lambo" enough. The Urus is a concept by VAG (as opposed to Lambo) and its utter pants - that's all.
 
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I'm just amazed that with all this TS020 talk we've not heard a peep from that guy who has been posting since 2018 that he knows it's definitely coming to GT soon because the guy at the Toyota museum told him they'd scanned it. Gilt-edged opportunity.
Yeah, where is that guy?!
 
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I'm very aware of what Lamborghini did/does with agricultural vehicles and Ferraris SUVs etc. And I said I don't have a problem with SUVs per see. I'm not inferring they can't make SUVs either, just that what they have, and other brands have produced, in my opinion, is not "lambo" enough. The Urus is a concept by VAG (as opposed to Lambo) and its utter pants - that's all.
So basically in your case, its exactly what I was asking:
Any particular reason why there is so much hate for the Urus? Is it basically something along the lines of "its not a real lambo"?
Every time I've seen similar claims (for other brands even), its usually got some iffy basis about it that seems less practical and more "Not my (Insert whatever here)" so the "Stick to what you're good at" comment just really seemed to cement this being another one of those hence me bringing up the Tractors as you not once mentioned it and therefore I had no reason to suspect you did know (Likewise the Ferrari). Perfect example is all the moaning about the SC63 not being "a real Lambo" purely because it has a V8 as opposed to a V12 or V8 (Never mind Lamborghini literally having 3 previous models before the Urus even that also had V8s). I frankly have to ask where its even "fact" that its just a VAG group decided car and not just a grand opinion, its become known at the very least that the Porsche Cayanne was basically a product to keep the brand afloat (As if it takes a Committee to tell you "Yeah, you need to make a healthy profit or you're SOL") but where is any fact of it being a "Commitee" decision for the Urus? I'm not arguing that as an SUV its tall and heavy because Gasp its what SUVs tend to be (Though in the first disagreement I have with @Nielsen, I'd argue its by far one of the two least boring recent SUVs to look at thanks to the angles alongside the Ford Bronco that abandons the typical SUV blob and brings back the square shape but that just comes from me who in general just doesn't find modern SUVs appealing to start with regardless of who makes them or what powerplant is in them due to the fact that frankly they feel FAR too samey) but I have yet to see any substantial fact or truth behind this being a car designed by "Commitee". I guess what I'm questioning is this just a personal belief and not an opinion being pushed as fact, because its all too common to argue against something by doing the last bit.
 
So basically in your case, its exactly what I was asking:

Every time I've seen similar claims (for other brands even), its usually got some iffy basis about it that seems less practical and more "Not my (Insert whatever here)" so the "Stick to what you're good at" comment just really seemed to cement this being another one of those hence me bringing up the Tractors as you not once mentioned it and therefore I had no reason to suspect you did know (Likewise the Ferrari). Perfect example is all the moaning about the SC63 not being "a real Lambo" purely because it has a V8 as opposed to a V12 or V8 (Never mind Lamborghini literally having 3 previous models before the Urus even that also had V8s). I frankly have to ask where its even "fact" that its just a VAG group decided car and not just a grand opinion, its become known at the very least that the Porsche Cayanne was basically a product to keep the brand afloat (As if it takes a Committee to tell you "Yeah, you need to make a healthy profit or you're SOL") but where is any fact of it being a "Commitee" decision for the Urus? I'm not arguing that as an SUV its tall and heavy because Gasp its what SUVs tend to be (Though in the first disagreement I have with @Nielsen, I'd argue its by far one of the two least boring recent SUVs to look at thanks to the angles alongside the Ford Bronco that abandons the typical SUV blob and brings back the square shape but that just comes from me who in general just doesn't find modern SUVs appealing to start with regardless of who makes them or what powerplant is in them due to the fact that frankly they feel FAR too samey) but I have yet to see any substantial fact or truth behind this being a car designed by "Commitee". I guess what I'm questioning is this just a personal belief and not an opinion being pushed as fact, because its all too common to argue against something by doing the last bit.
No - because other SUVs can be on brand. The Porsche Cayenne for example.

If you want another comparison compare it to the Opel Mokka. Another committee car that is utterly awful. It's even got a committee name.

Lamborghini make loud, passionate, uncompromising cars. The Urus is boring, designed because it had to be and completely lacking in anything remotely exciting.

Compare this to the Countach - awful car (I've heard, never driven one) but you can't deny that that is utterly on brand.
 
No - because other SUVs can be on brand. The Porsche Cayenne for example.
Well what's on brand with the Porsche Cayenne if I may ask?
If you want another comparison compare it to the Opel Mokka. Another committee car that is utterly awful. It's even got a committee name.
As a brand, I honestly don't recall ANYTHING Opel currently makes being uniquely their own (The Insignia being the most memorable example to me).
Lamborghini make loud, passionate, uncompromising cars. The Urus is boring, designed because it had to be and completely lacking in anything remotely exciting.

Compare this to the Countach - awful car (I've heard, never driven one) but you can't deny that that is utterly on brand.


Not sure about the other two since I'll never even remotely come close to driving ANY Lamborghini but seems to nail the loud part to me (And without aftermarket performance exhausts too).
 
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Well what's on brand with the Porsche Cayenne if I may ask?

As a brand, I honestly don't recall ANYTHING Opel currently makes being uniquely their own (The Insignia being the most memorable example to me).



Not sure about the other two since I'll never even remotely come close to driving ANY Lamborghini but seems to nail the loud part to me (And without aftermarket performance exhausts too).

The Opel was a bad example... everything they've made recently is dreary. I miss the early 80's cars.

When I said loud, I meant that metaphorically - like Lewis Hamilton's fashion sense.

The Porsche Cayenne feels and drives like a Porsche. The Lambo is an Audi (and I don't mind the look of a Q7) and drives like a turd (I was a passenger to be fair)
 
Just chiming in to say there is nothing unexciting about the Urus. It's interior is stunning and the built-in back massager with 7 or more options really hit the sweet spot when cruising on the highway. I was lucky enough to drive one of these last October and it was a fantastic drive (also made me realize how much of a poor I am). Would really enjoy if it came into the game for a taste of something different compared to the cars we have now. As for it's looks, it reminds me of he who shall not be named with the flat yet pointy nose.

And, for an SUV, I think it sounds the part too.
 
The Opel was a bad example... everything they've made recently is dreary. I miss the early 80's cars.

Its quite sad the state that brand is in. Only reason I'm even aware of the insignia is the fact that its not even their Nameplate, just another typical GM badge job shared with Buick (a brand GM somehow wanted you to believe was now totally hip enough for the kids to be like "Whooooa, that's a Buick?").
When I said loud, I meant that metaphorically - like Lewis Hamilton's fashion sense.

The Porsche Cayenne feels and drives like a Porsche. The Lambo is an Audi (and I don't mind the look of a Q7) and drives like a turd (I was a passenger to be fair)
Hmmm, do I want a car that echoes Lewis Hamilton's Fashion sense? Future thoughts at night should I win the lottery :lol:

Jokes aside, I find alot of current SUVs starting in the 2010s just do not stand out (or in the case of the BMW, a modern Hell spawn descendant of the Pontiac Aztek that needs to disappear). Its like they cater to a specific checklist of a certain shape, certain doors and the design being barely consistent with the lineup to fit a strange demographic that just wants to own that brand but with enough seats to flaunt themselves (Which might as well be the Chinese market at this point, but sadly I have seen THOSE soccer moms around the Airport I walk by here in the states so those folks exist..unfortunately). So admittingly the bar is not even low, it barely exists really but I feel like the Urus is one of the few that feel like you can't mistake it for anything else. Might not be as impactful as the cars but if I'm honest, I think like there are...worst ways to make it loud

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And remember, there are folks who buy said boring SUVs...just to pay companies like this to make them somehow worse...
Yeah we heard you last 5 prediction threads…
I suspect he wants you to know that he WILL be disappointed (or that others will be disappointed) . Good on him for advanced warning so we know who to avoid come update time.
 
Jokes aside, I find alot of current SUVs starting in the 2010s just do not stand out (or in the case of the BMW, a modern Hell spawn descendant of the Pontiac Aztek that needs to disappear). Its like they cater to a specific checklist of a certain shape, certain doors and the design being barely consistent with the lineup to fit a strange demographic that just wants to own that brand but with enough seats to flaunt themselves
This is pretty much precisely the point I was trying to make about the Urus
 
If Enzo Ferrari was still alive and one of his execs walked in with the idea of a Ferrari SUV I'd wager he'd spit right in their face.

This isn't an attack on SUVs - nothing wrong with an SUV. But this is like Lindt/Cadbury's/Hersheys making a Burger. Please, stick to what you're good at, unless you're like the Japanese and brilliant at everything...
For the great majority of people a supercar simply doesn't meet their needs.

If I won the lottery I'd probably pick-up a Ferrari Purosangue - Ferrari has a great tradition of long-legged GT's and the Purosangue fits that bill. Not only practical (is that a dirty word?) but you can enjoy it's real world performance on the road, in all conditions. If I had some change I'd pick-up a 296 or 911 Turbo - anything more extreme isn't suitable for the road.

 
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Speaking of the Urus and famous Toyota(s).


I can see the WRC Corolla making a return as the Celica is currently in the LCD.
 
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