Maybe someday...

[CaptainHarlock]

SimBin or iRacing (what once was Papyrus) cause then we'd have a proper racer, by professional standards that is.

Don't get me wrong, I love Gran Turismo. There is something to be said, however, for a proper racing season with race weekend structure with qualifying, and points standings. Gran Turismo is what I always refer to as a giant track day session only without having to buy insurance, safety gear, entry fees, and fuel.

That reminds me, I have to pick up F1 2011.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Don't get me wrong, I love Gran Turismo. There is something to be said, however, for a proper racing season with race weekend structure with qualifying, and points standings. Gran Turismo is what I always refer to as a giant track day session only without having to buy insurance, safety gear, entry fees, and fuel.

That reminds me, I have to pick up F1 2011.

I was going to pick it up but I'd recommend you do it for Xbox if you're going to do it console, more so I'd say PC. I thought 2011 would be great but so far I've seen it to be quite glitchy at times. If they patch it then I'll go buy it or just wait for F1 2012.

 

[Astro-Racer]

To be honest, the only two things I want from Forza are the engine sounds and livery editor. And these two things may be fine in GT6, so PD don't really need Turn 10.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

To be honest, the only two things I want from Forza are the engine sounds and livery editor. And these two things may be fine in GT6, so PD don't really need Turn 10.

I see a couple more things than that, but this is all subjective really.

 

[SavageEvil]

I own Forza 4 and it's a very good game. Looks much better than FM3 in every respect, pretty visuals everywhere and awesome replay camera work. I'm about 2.1% in and have about 40 or so cars but I started with about 30 with all the bonus stuff that came with the game and being a level 50 FM3 player. Physics are better this time around, the Lotus Elise/Exige now exhibit lift off oversteer, hitting walls while transitioning undulations will seriously upset your car(see Bernese Alps for that interesting stuff). All in all it's a solid game, but if you played FM3 it will wear off quickly and you will realize you are playing almost the same game with tweaks and new cars. I like shiny stuff so I don't mind actually, but one thing I don't understand Turn10 lost Porsche, so they stuffed the game with a bunch of old American muscle cars(no '67 GTO GOAT either), and lots of cars like the Fiat 500...that monologue by Clarkson never rang so true after looking at the sheer amount of little putt putts they meticulously added.

To be honest, the only two things I want from Forza are the engine sounds and livery editor. And these two things may be fine in GT6, so PD don't really need Turn 10.

About this, Turn10 embellishes a hell of a lot in the sound department, don't believe me? Take any stock vehicle even the lowly Suzuki SRX4 or whatever it's called and go hot lapping, I swear you'll think the car was modded, it's louder than all hell. Majority of cars engines are extremely loud stock, how on earth is that possible? Turn 10 must hang out with the NFS guys, they use all sorts of different car sounds in their games and just turn em up. I'm all for sounding authentic, but no way you expect me to believe taht some Kei car sounds like Thunder Road out the box.

 

[Tower Turn 13]

How about releasing both games on PC, then I can play them both at will and with superior graphics across the board. GT5 looks beautiful even with the inferior graphic engine of the PS3, but imagine what some anti-aliasing could do to those standard cars

 

[recca]

About this, Turn10 embellishes a hell of a lot in the sound department, don't believe me? Take any stock vehicle even the lowly Suzuki SRX4 or whatever it's called and go hot lapping, I swear you'll think the car was modded, it's louder than all hell. Majority of cars engines are extremely loud stock, how on earth is that possible? Turn 10 must hang out with the NFS guys, they use all sorts of different car sounds in their games and just turn em up. I'm all for sounding authentic, but no way you expect me to believe taht some Kei car sounds like Thunder Road out the box.

That's what i noticed as well, like going through the revs they all kind of sound the same but they're all pretty damn loud, the amgs have a little more grunt, stuff like that...but all in all they did sound pretty similar....I do like their down shift sounds though, but going through the revs doesn't sound all that authentic

 

[another_jakhole]

PD doesn't care about the AI?


Umm what?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

How about releasing both games on PC, then I can play them both at will and with superior graphics across the board. GT5 looks beautiful even with the inferior graphic engine of the PS3, but imagine what some anti-aliasing could do to those standard cars

That is a great points, and imagine what the physics engine would be like!!! Oh and the tracks how can we forget the tracks.

 

[sugarload]

The competition between the two is very healthy and both games suit different types of individuals. What we really need is to have both games either on the PS3 or on the Xbox, not this one or the other type of mentality. The gaming audience is actually reduced this way when you think about.

 

[tribolik]

Ahh this remindes me of that music - ebony and ivory

 

[SkierPS3]

I'd like it just so Turn 10 can actually get some good cars in the game.

 

[Slash]

The competition between the two is very healthy and both games suit different types of individuals. What we really need is to have both games either on the PS3 or on the Xbox, not this one or the other type of mentality. The gaming audience is actually reduced this way when you think about.

No because then we would have less content because they would have to make it for both systems, which takes longer.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'd like it just so Turn 10 can actually get some good cars in the game.

I'd say FM4 has plenty of good cars, that statement is getting into subjective territory.

 

[adramire]

their selection of cars is ridiculous...i'm so jealous! look at all the ferraris, lambos, astons that they had...pd has those license why couldnt' we have those cars?!

Because PD are overly obsessed with GTR's, Miata's, NSX's that they stubbornly neglect other car manufacturers it's really pathetic.

 

[W3H5]

Because PD are overly obsessed with GTR's, Miata's, NSX's that they stubbornly neglect other car manufacturers it's really pathetic.

I think this be the second time in 24h that you've made this comment without having any solid ground for it.

What you are stating is an opinion in the guise of fact, therefore it is a false statement and you achieve nothing by stating it.

Here's what you could have said to make your post worth while and possibly added something to the thread -

I believe it's because PD are overly obsessed with GTR's, Miata's, NSX's and I feel the way that they stubbornly neglect other car manufacturers it's really pathetic.

Still, bashing PD is really not what this conversation is aiming for. The topic, had you read it correctly, is about the consequence of PD and T10 joining up to make a game.

 

[timeatkuu]

I've always had this on my mind since the first iteration of FM and Fujimi Kaido <3

However, I'd fuse EA, T10, and PD since (all of these statements are in my opinion):

• EA has Porsche and the best track selection (this is with regards to the Shift series)
• T10 has the cleanest car selection, best tuning/customization options, and best online features
• PD has the weather and time effects, physics, track accuracy, and most variety in styles of racing

 

[another_jakhole]

Because PD are overly obsessed with GTR's, Miata's, NSX's that they stubbornly neglect other car manufacturers it's really pathetic.

because the duplicates are premium? All those duplicates are from past games.


false statement checked. Mission accomplished folks/Shem

The cars the entire Forza series has makes me really jealous. For that and the customization, this would be a good team up for PD and Turn 10 to make GT6 haha

 

[Tenacious D]

After jumping back into Forza 3 Tuesday, I had a rude awakening with that game. I didn't like it. Racing was a chore. It wasn't intuitive at all. The car didn't have much feel. Car and tires weren't communicating very much, in fact I felt quite numb and disconnected. And when I went into the Decal/vinyl group page, it took a full minute to load, and I was "flipping" through the list at a snail's pace - three seconds for each item! SlipZtrEm was doing his darndest to say F3 and GT5 both bogged badly, but I can sort through 100 items in 10 seconds with GT5, versus five minutes in F3! Just ridiculous... and only Microsoft could get away with selling 360s at a near 70% failure rate for almost two years. And don't even mention EA to me, that other gaming monopoly.

I'm sorry, but MS just doesn't ooze quality or customer friendliness. Now Forza 4 may be the shiz, but why did we have to slog through three Forzas for T10 to get it right, assuming it is right? Just imagine if we got GT3 and 4 at this level, and then were still pulling our hair out with messed up stuff in GT5. Would you stick with it?

I know for some people, roaring engine sounds and endless customization of a power loaded car list = awesome racer, and kids can't get enough of "one button drift," as one real world drifter put it of Forza. And it's not that Forza doesn't have things to commend it to millions of racers, obviously, as they evidently find the car feel to their liking. But the issues and bugs, oh lawd... and the fact that I've been able to hop into most PC sims and feel remotely competent with a car, the same with Gran Turismo, but then take a 350hp modded sports car on racing tires for a spin after not doing a thing in Forza 3 for almost two years, and just keeping the car on the road at moderate speed wasn't working well because the car wouldn't talk to me and the driver views weren't the best.

I think this great divide between the games and consoles works just fine. They can pick each other's brains for things the other does well, like... well, Forza basically is Gran Turismo with more American and supercars, but with its own feel and rhythm. PD can look at the extensive customization and livery editor T10 built.

By the way, you guys still grouching over "a thousand" Miatas, Skylines, Mitsus and Subis, if you take those " thousand" cars out of GT4 and 5, you still have well over 500 cars to choose from in GT4, and 700 in GT5. I guess this escaped you somehow.

 

[another_jakhole]

By the way, you guys still grouching over "a thousand" Miatas, Skylines, Mitsus and Subis, if you take those " thousand" cars out of GT4 and 5, you still have well over 500 cars to choose from in GT4, and 700 in GT5. I guess this escaped you somehow.

I love the ending. My favorite! Kaz even mentioned they were hardly any work compared to the +200 premiums. Standards came after or during the premiums we now have because there weren't enough premiums. Pretty honest guy, and he said to consider them as bonus cars or some good stuff like that.

 

[Fogerty_Jr]

Wonderful engine sounds has Forza 4! Pity that is actually THE SAME engine sound. It's kinda weird driving an alfa romeo mito which sounds pretty much the same as an Aston Martin V12 Vantage. Well, engine sounds should definitely be taken from GT5 in this fusion

 

[another_jakhole]

Wonderful engine sounds has Forza 4! Pity that is actually THE SAME engine sound. It's kinda weird driving an alfa romeo mito which sounds pretty much the same as an Aston Martin V12 Vantage. Well, engine sounds should definitely be taken from GT5 in this fusion

Or a MINI that sounds like it's suped up is one I heard. They sound cool, but not worth it. That's AMERICA! for you. I live in AMERICA!, but like GT5, I dislike quite a number of things. A lot of them can be helped, a lot of them can't be helped.

GT5 sounds get worse as you tune them most of the time, but I drive stock usually, unless I'm grinding because of lack of skill and patience.

 

[Encyclopedia]

There are plenty of cars in Forza that Gran Turismo should have, but Gran Turismo's car selection is much more diverse which is a huge strength in my opinion.

You can tell GT is geared towards car enthusiasts. People who appreciate cars for more than just speed.

 

[BWX]

How about releasing both games on PC, then I can play them both at will and with superior graphics across the board. GT5 looks beautiful even with the inferior graphic engine of the PS3, but imagine what some anti-aliasing could do to those standard cars

Then it would be hacked and cheaters would come out of the woodwork and on-line multiplayer would be ruined just like every other online racing game.

Or a MINI that sounds like it's suped up is one I heard. They sound cool, but not worth it. That's AMERICA! for you. I live in AMERICA!, but like GT5, I dislike quite a number of things. A lot of them can be helped, a lot of them can't be helped.

What are you talking about? "Mini that's sounds like it's suped up" "That's America for you"
WTF? What's "America" about that? That makes absolutely no sense.

''I live in AMERICA!, but like GT5, I dislike quite a number of things. A lot of them can be helped, a lot of them can't be helped.''

Oh yeah? Like what? LOL Sounds like you should be roaming around outside without a shower for a few days, stinking up downtown with the rest of your ungrateful, unpatriotic friends. If you don't like America, go live somewhere else.

 

[noisiaturismo]

their selection of cars is ridiculous...i'm so jealous! look at all the ferraris, lambos, astons that they had...pd has those license why couldnt' we have those cars?!

The selection of cars in GT5 is amazing.

 

[eran0004]

I think it's never gonna happen. And if it were, how would they decide what to use from each other's games? I think that Forza's graphical art department is too proud to let GT do all the graphics, and so on.

 

[another_jakhole]

Then it would be hacked and cheaters would come out of the woodwork and on-line multiplayer would be ruined just like every other online racing game.



What are you talking about? "Mini that's sounds like it's suped up" "That's America for you"
WTF? What's "America" about that? That makes absolutely no sense.

''I live in AMERICA!, but like GT5, I dislike quite a number of things. A lot of them can be helped, a lot of them can't be helped.''

Oh yeah? Like what? LOL Sounds like you should be roaming around outside without a shower for a few days, stinking up downtown with the rest of your ungrateful, unpatriotic friends. If you don't like America, go live somewhere else.

Hollywood is in America. Enough said.

Did I ever say GT5 had the best orgasmic sounds of any car game? Did people ever say FM4 had the most realistic sounds? Do either of them? Do you have proof? I've compared a few cars. Zonda R in FM4 isn't supposed to sound beautiful. That's America for you. Just like Hollywood and overdone crap movies. I was really looking forward to Horrible Bosses (Kevin Spacey could not save that movie, even though he is BRILLIANT). Transformers. Twilight. The A-Team. the Triple T-list of Hollywood crap.

Turn 10 outsources like hell. That's AMERICAN if I ever saw it. America isn't the worst country in the world, but most of my generation thinks we're so rad and everything else is gay (rad and gay should be hints about my generation and those just a little older). I despise the way most of my generation acts and we're seeing a lot of it on this site. I definitely have bad qualities, we're not perfect. But I know what I know, and I don't like it.

FOOTLOOSE REMAKE smh

 

[Jason4041]

I really wonder if anyone at PD has ever even picked up a Forza game?

I'm not sure T10 could add all the great details from GT to Forza, but PD could easily take the great things about Forza and implement them.

 

[another_jakhole]

I really wonder if anyone at PD has ever even picked up a Forza game?

I'm not sure T10 could add all the great details from GT to Forza, but PD could easily take the great things about Forza and implement them.

They did. Kaz had an interview and was asked if he looked at the competition (most likely before GT5 released). He replied that his staff did and they discuss... stuff lol.

 

[BWX]

Hollywood is in America. Enough said.

Did I ever say GT5 had the best orgasmic sounds of any car game? Did people ever say FM4 had the most realistic sounds? Do either of them? Do you have proof? I've compared a few cars. Zonda R in FM4 isn't supposed to sound beautiful. That's America for you. Just like Hollywood and overdone crap movies. I was really looking forward to Horrible Bosses (Kevin Spacey could not save that movie, even though he is BRILLIANT). Transformers. Twilight. The A-Team. the Triple T-list of Hollywood crap.

Turn 10 outsources like hell. That's AMERICAN if I ever saw it. America isn't the worst country in the world, but most of my generation thinks we're so rad and everything else is gay (rad and gay should be hints about my generation and those just a little older). I despise the way most of my generation acts and we're seeing a lot of it on this site. I definitely have bad qualities, we're not perfect. But I know what I know, and I don't like it.

FOOTLOOSE REMAKE smh

''Did I ever say GT5 had the best orgasmic sounds of any car game? Did people ever say FM4 had the most realistic sounds? Do either of them? Do you have proof? I've compared a few cars. Zonda R in FM4 isn't supposed to sound beautiful. That's America for you. Just like Hollywood and overdone crap movies.''

That's America for you? Anyone who thinks THAT (Hollywood and Zonda sounds) is America, is a fool.
I didn't say jack about the sounds.. you are arguing with yourself. I'm not wasting anymore time talking to you or reading your grossly misguided rantings. Just know that your delusional view is not America.