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The Mazdaspeed 6 also has AWD.RaghavanThe Legacy looks much better imo, because Mazda screwed up the MazdaSpeed's grille, and the Legacy has AWD.
The Mazdaspeed 6 also has AWD.RaghavanThe Legacy looks much better imo, because Mazda screwed up the MazdaSpeed's grille, and the Legacy has AWD.
But the Legacy has fulltime AWD, wheareas the Mazda is FWD until the rear wheels are engaged when the fronts lose traction.Ev0The Mazdaspeed 6 also has AWD.
And why is this a problem? The Mazda's system is much better for normal driving conditions since FWD offers better fuel economy, while still offering the added grip of AWD, but only when it is needed.RaghavanBut the Legacy has fulltime AWD, wheareas the Mazda is FWD until the rear wheels are engaged when the fronts lose traction.
Aah... The beauty of AWD.
eliseracerI'll just say this:
Don't buy any car because you liked it in a video game.
Go out and drive the rest of the cars in that segment, you'll save hundreds and find a better suited car.
Car and Driver~If you've peeked at the charts, you already know that Mazda's pumped-up 6 sedan was our performance champ, no contest. It whooshed to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds, a half-second quicker than the Accord, and covered the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat. It was the skidpad champ, pulling 0.87 g, thanks to a set of sticky Bridgestone Potenzas (RE050A, 215/45) on 7.0-by-18-inch aluminum alloy wheels. That combination, plus big brake rotors that reduced fade, added up to an outstanding stopping distance from 70 mph-155 feet, just a foot more than the best-in-test performance of the Jetta. That's sportscar braking, and a wondeful asset to have when charting a stretch of back road.
~When we speak of back roads, we speak of this car's prime venue. The Mazda's combination of power, brakes, grip, limited body roll, on-demand all-wheel drive, and quick steering (2.6 turns lock-to-lock) made it great fun on our loop, a back-road bandito. Beyond that, the Mazda's turbocharged and intercooled 2.3-liter four was also a helpful traveling companion on freeways, with instant spool-up that delivered big lane-change power, even in sixth gear.
~The downside to the Mazdaspeed package is a shortage of refinement. Consider feature content, for openers. Although the Mazda's as-tested price was third highest, it was the only ride without a sunroof, the onlyone lacking leather upholstery, and one of the two lacking power adjustability of the front seats. Yes, yes, how we do suffer. But when it comes to luxury features for a given price, more is better.
~The Mazda's rather severe interior trim also drew flack, particularly the hard, shiny, plastic of the center console, center stack, dash, and doors. And if the styling troops have done a decent job of integrating the car's raised hoodline, required to accommodate the turbo's intercooler, they were defeated by the challenge of the enlarged grille opening that yawns in the lower front fascia. The bigger opening was needed to get more cool air in there, but it doesn't harmonize well with the other elements of the front-end design.
~We recorded complaints of the Mazda's stiffer-than-most ride quality and road noise, although most were willing to accept that trade-off in favor of the car's quick handling responses. But the other element that goes with this high-performance package - engine noise - was hard for our test crew to accept. The turbo four was serene at idle, but in freeway cruise mode, the Mazda's interior noise levels were highest of the pack. The Jetta generated louder readings at wide-open throttle, but there was a raspy, industrial quality to the Mazda's exhaust note at full cry that grated on all who heard it.
~"Like the Hoover that ate Godzilla," observed one tester. The bottom line: The Mazdaspeed guys nailed the sports part of the deal, but this car needs a little time at charm school.
Have you driven the 6?Pink_the_FloydNah,
Mazda uses Ford engines and Ford is which "real car fans" know, is crap.
Pink_the_FloydNah,
Mazda uses Ford engines and Ford is which "real car fans" know, is crap.
Because i want the AWD on all the time. I hate FWD, and i would like the rear wheels to be engaged at all times because why have all that weight carried around if you don't use it?Ev0And why is this a problem? The Mazda's system is much better for normal driving conditions since FWD offers better fuel economy, while still offering the added grip of AWD, but only when it is needed.
I don't know why we keep on insisting the AWD isn't on all the time.RaghavanBecause i want the AWD on all the time. I hate FWD, and i would like the rear wheels to be engaged at all times because why have all that weight carried around if you don't use it?
You can probably make it Full time AWD though.
YSSMANBut I would still say the ultimate AWD sports sedan is still the old Volkswagen Passat W8 4Motion...
JCE3000GTWow aren't we a closed minded and obviously misinformed person? Yea Ford's engines are really rubbish...tell me what has Norway done for the automotive industry? Buy a lot of those so called "crappy" Ford cars with thier "crappy" Ford engines. The "Ford" engine that's in the Mazda6 is absolutely sweet and smooth. Not to mention the 2.0 and 2.3 4cyl engines aren't so bad either.
"Real car fans" learn to appreciate more than insult. Think about it.
JCE3000GTWow aren't we a closed minded and obviously misinformed person? Yea Ford's engines are really rubbish...tell me what has Norway done for the automotive industry? Buy a lot of those so called "crappy" Ford cars with thier "crappy" Ford engines. The "Ford" engine that's in the Mazda6 is absolutely sweet and smooth. Not to mention the 2.0 and 2.3 4cyl engines aren't so bad either.
And so why exactly do you claim that the engine is crap? And what exactly is your beef with Ford? If you weren't so arrogant as to say that the 6 is beneath you and actually drove the thing, you would find that it is one of the best handling and most drivable cars in that price range.Pink_the_FloydNot a chance I'm going to.
nikyActually we're talking about the Mazda engine that's in the Fords. The 1.6, 2.0 and 2.3 in the Mazda 3 and lower end Mazda 6s, the Mazdaspeed 6 and the Miata are a development of Mazda's previous generation 4-cylinders. They're in the new Focus, but AFAIK, the US Focus doesn't get it for another few years.
Then there's not a chance you're ever going to force any new knowledge into that closed mind of yours, either.Pink_the_FloydNot a chance I'm going to.
Max_DCDidn't get good press here in Germany though...
DukeThen there's not a chance you're ever going to force any new knowledge into that closed mind of yours, either.
We liked the 6s we drove last year, and it was a decent value, but once we drove the TSX it was all over for Mazda, even though we had to stretch the budget a bit to get the Acura. The 6s just didn't have the handling feel that the TSX did, even though the TSX was down on power somewhat. And we weren't really thrilled by the interior design of the 6s - too many lurid colors in the controls and instruments. The TSX on the other hand is very crisp and clear.
nikyThat's one thing I didn't like about the 3's either. The dash looks suitably techno, but I'm not fond of having glaring bright orange and red in my eyes all night.
Freedom GundamI've met my friend's friend that said not to get the Mazda. According to him, he said that his friend's engine was burning up and he took it to a repair shop. The repair shop employees told him that he needed a new engine and they don't have the new engine in stock, so they would have to order it from Japan. That was 3 months ago and he's still waiting for the new engine. I'm thinking that since you guys say that the Mazda 6 were good cars and the fact that I've read in magazines that they were good cars, I'm thinking that the person that had a bad engine had bough a defective car.