mclaren f1 performance

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GTP_karlos
I've mentioned this twice already but...what on earth is with the mclaren f1's straight line speed? It's so slow for an f1. I decided to drag against a veyron in 2player thinking here we go....it wasn't even close, I mean the veyron hit 243mph and the f1 hit 217mph.

There's two major issues really. 1). it only does 219mph, not 240 and 2). If you hit the rev limiter in 5th (or just before) and you shift up to 6th, bye bye speed. Your speed drops, from 219mph to 212mph.

Minor? Very :) just a little rant that I had to get on with. T'was bugging me :lol: GT5 is amazing nevertheless.
 
i thought 1 was a no brainer. you are never going to hit the top speed, because drag, weight, friction, etc. will effect it.
 
haoTRUE
i thought 1 was a no brainer. you are never going to hit the top speed, because drag, weight, friction, etc. will effect it.
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True but it was stopped at 219mph instead of holding there, like it had stopped, it's obvious it's not going to hit top speed but i expected it to be as fast as a mclaren f1 not an enzo.

Obviously you're not going to hit 240 mph in a 2 mile tunnel, if you look at the standard transmission it's estimated top speed is 217mph.
 
I have not tried the F1 yet, but shouldn't the F1 hit 240 stock, as it is often reported. I'm sure those figures take air resistance and standard tranny into consideration. A quick look at wiki, and it says with the rev limited, top speed should be 231.
 
^ yep, yet in gt5 you hit 219mph and stop, don't shift into 6th, you'll go slower. It actually lost a drag race against an enzo.
 
Hmm trying to remember how that one story i heard went.....was this guy owned a mclaren f1 apparently he was having problems with the car stalling out while driving it, so one day on the autobahn he called mclaren when his car stopped again so mclaren checked the telemetry on the car he had been doing 238 or so miles per hour for the last few miles and drained the fuel tank dry.....apparently he did this a lot...dunno if the story is true, or cannot recall the exact details, but it went something like that.

Pretty sure the F1 in its prime could get close to 240, fact the game has it wrong....well they got the veyron wrong to so. Here is hoping that one day PD decides to fix the gearboxes.
 
I bought this car to and was surprised it wouldn't go up to 240mph.

It tops out at around 217 in 5th and if you up shift to 6th it slows down to like 210.

It is not a matter of the length of a straight it simply won't go any faster. I assume the game must be wrong somewhere.
 
Jacob6875
I bought this car to and was surprised it wouldn't go up to 240mph.

It tops out at around 217 in 5th and if you up shift to 6th it slows down to like 210.

It is not a matter of the length of a straight it simply won't go any faster. I assume the game must be wrong somewhere.
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Sounds like a bug more than anything else.
 
1) Why would you expect the F1 to go 240mph when it's top speed in production trim was 231mph?

2) Drag racing a Bugatti Veyron against the F1 is not going to be close. It has been tested that if you let a McLaren get a head start to 100mph (it might be 120mph, I'm not sure which), that the Veyron will still hit 200mph first.
 
Not sure what you have done to your F1 but mine did 225mph at SSR7 out of the box in 5th gear, slower than the real life 240mph but it would go faster than 225 with a longer road, SSR7 goes uphill halfway through the tunnel, lemans is too bumpy. The Veyron also does not hit its maximum speed of 253mph, it maxes at 243.

Not sure why you would expect an F1 (627bhp listed) to beat the Veyron (1001bhp listed) in a straight line race, the Veyron was specifically designed to go faster in a straight line, the Veyron however is fat and unmodified it will lose in a race on quite a few tracks, though that is tyre specific.

There are a lot of cars it gets wrong, its hard to get it right as they have to apply the specs of the car to the physics engine which has to produce those results, its not as simple as them putting in a top speed, in the same way the physics gets cars wrong in terms of them being too fast.

Don't forget that in the real world to achieve those records they drove on a day where the air pressure was right, the temperature was good and even altitude can make a big difference, fact is that there will be roads, times and places where the cars will never hit those record top speeds.



To the above,. Top gear raced a Mclaren F1 and Bugatti and though the Veyron obviously won the race it was close, there is no chance the Veyron would do 0-200 faster than the F1 can do 100-200.
 
Bigbazz
Not sure what you have done to your F1 but mine did 225mph at SSR7 out of the box in 5th gear

Not sure why you would expect an F1 (627bhp listed) to beat the Veyron (1001bhp listed) in a straight line race,
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I haven't done a thing, just oil change. More power (629bhp)
I didn't expect it to beat the veyron...I said I expected the race to be closer than what it was. I did expect it to beat the enzo though...

To the above...in that race the launch control was kept off in the veyron, to make it more interesting apparantly.
 
My Mclaren F1 was at 657bhp (Thats just new oil, no upgrade) when it recorded a speed of 225mph down through the tunnel at SSR7 in 5th gear, my Veyron at 1007Bhp on the same road did 242. Try driving behind the Veyron in the F1, you will be amazed at how fast it can go in the slipstream, due to the gearing of the standard gearbox.

As a better example, my 2nd Mclaren F1 (Fully tuned with Aero parts installed) @865bhp topped out at 246Mph on the road, standard gearbox/lsd installed.

About the Top gear test : Launch control is nice, but it isnt going to make up for a 100mph advantage, if anything a skilled driver can match it or perhaps even better it with a manual start.
 
Bigbazz
My Mclaren F1 was at 657bhp (Thats just new oil, no upgrade) when it recorded a speed of 225mph down through the tunnel at SSR7 in 5th gear, my Veyron at 1007Bhp on the same road did 242. Try driving behind the Veyron in the F1, you will be amazed at how fast it can go in the slipstream, due to the gearing of the standard gearbox.
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I mean it should do 225 on it's own, no slip stream. My oil change is the same as yours but it doesn't do 225
 
stig's helmet
I mean it should do 225 on it's own, no slip stream. My oil change is the same as yours but it doesn't do 225
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No no you get me wrong, it does 225mph on its own, in a sleepstream it will go in excess of 250mph without issue, assuming you have a fast enough car to tug it.

I was doing tug wars against a 650bhp Nissan 300zx fairlady (A car with amazing top speed for its power, it will top at 229mph on its own), we hit 250mph a few times at SSR7, i was driving my standard mclaren F1.
 
Bigbazz
Not sure what you have done to your F1 but mine did 225mph at SSR7 out of the box in 5th gear, slower than the real life 240mph but it would go faster than 225 with a longer road, SSR7 goes uphill halfway through the tunnel, lemans is too bumpy. The Veyron also does not hit its maximum speed of 253mph, it maxes at 243.

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Ive gotten my veyron to 257...?
 
gta0004
Ive gotten my veyron to 257...?
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Read the thread, get on the same wavelength and then get back to me. Were talking unaided, no upgrades/tuning and no drafting. If you draft the Veyron it will do obsurd speeds, perhaps 270mph behind an X-1.
 
Im not one hundred percent sure but wasn't it the f1 GTR (race spec version) that got the record not the run of the mill f1??.
 
No it was a standard car used for the top speed run. Specifically the 5th car made and the last preproduction prototype. The special edition F1 cars have wings and stuff to improve down force so they have a lower top speed.


From wikipedia:

The title of "world's fastest production road car" is constantly in contention, especially because the term "production car" is not well-defined.
The McLaren F1 has a top speed of 231 mph (372 km/h),[30] restricted by the rev limiter at 7500 rpm. The true top speed of the McLaren F1 was reached in April 1998 by the five-year-old XP5 prototype. Andy Wallace (racer) piloted it down the 9 km straight at Volkswagen's test track in Ehra-Lessien, Germany, setting a new world record of 243 mph (391 km/h) at 7800 rpm.[7] As Mario Andretti noted in a comparison test, the F1 is fully capable of pulling a seventh gear, thus with a higher gear ratio or a seventh gear the McLaren F1 would probably be able to reach an even greater top speed—something which can also be observed by noticing that the top speed was reached at 7800 rpm while the peak power is reached at 7400 rpm.
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midjetv8
Im not one hundred percent sure but wasn't it the f1 GTR (race spec version) that got the record not the run of the mill f1??.
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The one that did the speed record run was the XP5 Prototype, not the final version, though the engine was the same. The GTR was the race car and the LM was the celebration car they released after winning Le mans, with the more powerful engine but shorter gear ratios for faster acceleration though lower top speed (225mph)

In the actual record video the Mclaren hit 391Kmh, which is 243mph.
 
Bigbazz
Read the thread, get on the same wavelength and then get back to me. Were talking unaided, no upgrades/tuning and no drafting. If you draft the Veyron it will do obsurd speeds, perhaps 270mph behind an X-1.
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jeez bro, no need to get so uptight, just a mistake.
 
Nothing is wrong with McLaren F1 top speed, people are confusing top speed runs with how the car would go with it's off the showroom floor performance. They are not parallel, seriously why would you think that the car would even hit such speeds straight from the showroom floor? They Veyron should not go beyond 236 unless the top speed mode is activated to begin with and after doing that a few times, your tires should be soup and you'd be out of gas. Same with the McLaren, the amount of friction happening at such speeds would render both cars unable to sustain those speeds for any considerable amount of time. Top speed cars built for the road cannot hit their tops speeds unless there are a few things added, such as one shot super performance tires, possible gear box tweaks and or settings change.
 
gta0004
jeez bro, no need to get so uptight, just a mistake.
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Dont get me wrong, but you jump in the thread and read one post and then ninja post something without reading the discussion.. you're contributing nothing and pulling the thread off track for a one liner that is completely off the mark. (Though im no better with this reply, and sorry for coming accross as a bit of a dick).

Anyway..

Most cars will go a lot faster in a draft, and obviously if you tune a veyron it is one of the fastest cars in the game (it is anyway). The F1 in the game i think is quite close to the mark, its slow on the tight tracks but very fast on the longer tracks, really good top speed for its power levels (but not the best). The Veyron is fat so doesnt make the best use of its power (atleast in game), but has so much power and traction with its 4WD that its amazing in a straight line.


Around a tight track the Mclaren is not great, especially if its on sports tyres, in the real world a tuned japcar would run circles around it on a track such as Tsukuba, but on a high speed track like La Sarth or Nordschleife the F1 is amazing. Personally i think the game does a good job of it.
 
Just posting to point out the top gear race is obviously staged to be that close, a Veyron would destroy a Mclaren F1 in a fair drag race. The F1 is an amazing car and extremely quick, but it isn't anything close to a Veyron in a straight line.
 
Chronoslol
Just posting to point out the top gear race is obviously staged to be that close, a Veyron would destroy a Mclaren F1 in a fair drag race. The F1 is an amazing car and extremely quick, but it isn't anything close to a Veyron in a straight line.
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Hammond didn't use the launch control on the veyron to make it a closer race. Also they were in the desert and the higher the heat the less the turbos on the veyron would work.
 
Some people who are saying " you aren't going to hit that speed blah blah blah" i'm more than well aware if that, but it should be faster than it is. Simple. It would not lose a drag race to an enzo.

The above is correct also about the race, I know that too. In fact I've already mentiond it a page back. So I get the point, I was just disappointed.
 

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