McLaren MP4-12C Reportedly the fastest car around Top Gear Test Track

[mPWRD]

Remember, TG doesn't allow cars with slicks on the board.

 

[spyrrari]

I don't believe that time either...take a look at the new video i posted in this thread:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114291&page=11



spy.

 

[Mr. Apex]

Anyway … it's not gonna beat this road-legal car that is able to clear a speedbump:

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Wait a sec... It's heavier than a Gumpert Apolloo Sport, makes a hundred BHP less, is slower to 60mph, slower to 120mph and its top speed is just 2mph higher. Additionally, I doubt it has a lot more downforce than the Gumpert, and yet it's supposed to go faster than the car that literally curb stomped the Gumpert?

I'll believe that when I see it.

Luckily, Ariel is also a British manufacturer, so both cars shoudl be tested under the same conditions

I doubt that these times are true, but some people really underrate the benefit the MP4-12c gains from the active suspension and break stearing.

Just check the first grand prix of the 98 F1 season to see how much a difference this technology makes.

 

[Stotty]

Not sure why we have 2 threads open on the MP12.

In the EVO supercar test, the 458 is >1s a lap faster than the MP12. Even on its optional Corsa tyres the MP12 is slower.

Incidentaly, the 458 turns in a lap time faster than the Grmupert Apollo round Bedford, and is .5s faster than the 997 GT2RS.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Not sure why we have 2 threads open on the MP12.

In the EVO supercar test, the 458 is >1s a lap faster than the MP12. Even on its optional Corsa tyres the MP12 is slower.

Incidentaly, the 458 turns in a lap time faster than the Grmupert Apollo round Bedford, and is .5s faster than the 997 GT2RS.

It is very likely that Ferrari cheated during this test.

The 458 lapped faster then the Apollo in the EVO supercar test but only did a 1:19 at TGTT, 4 seconds slower then a Apollo.

I still think that those "Wunder" times from the MP4-12c are a big lie, but I wouldn`t be suprised if it turns out to be true. We are talking about Mclaren, currently the second best race car manufacturer in the world after RBR. And Mclarens philosophy was always "performance comes first" and not "prestige/style" like for Ferrari/Lamborghini.

 

[Stotty]

It is very likely that Ferrari cheated during this test.

I'm no fan of modern Ferrari's, but cheated in what way?

I know some manufacturers used to supply non-production line cars for magazine tests, but there's not really a lot you can do to the 458 as it's in such a high state of tune to begin with... I doubt the GT race versions produce any more power.

Much easier for manufacturers to find extra performance by winding up the boost on turbo cars than it is on NA cars. And if sticky tyres were fitted it would be easy to see from the tread pattern.

The EVO test says both McLaren and Ferrari sent a full support team for the Bedford track test. There's a couple of funny quotes in the article... such as the chief Ferrari bod telling the EVO driver to 'push, push, push and don't worry about crashing it' and shouting 'motivation' at him as he went out for his 2nd run

 

[niky]

The Top Gear lap board is such a poor indicator of actual performance, simply because of the varying weather and conditions at the track. I've always felt that putting the wet times and dry times on the same board is a bit of a farce. Head to head tests are more telling.

 

[Jay]

I'm no fan of modern Ferrari's, but cheated in what way?

I know some manufacturers used to supply non-production line cars for magazine tests, but there's not really a lot you can do to the 458 as it's in such a high state of tune to begin with... I doubt the GT race versions produce any more power.

Much easier for manufacturers to find extra performance by winding up the boost on turbo cars than it is on NA cars. And if sticky tyres were fitted it would be easy to see from the tread pattern.

The EVO test says both McLaren and Ferrari sent a full support team for the Bedford track test. There's a couple of funny quotes in the article... such as the chief Ferrari bod telling the EVO driver to 'push, push, push and don't worry about crashing it' and shouting 'motivation' at him as he went out for his 2nd run

Check out this article by Chris Harris (from Feb) if you haven't seen it yet.

http://m.jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

I am not suggesting Ferrari cheated in recent tests by the way, though it is possible.

 

[Stotty]

Check out this article by Chris Harris (from Feb) if you haven't seen it yet.

http://m.jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

I am not suggesting Ferrari cheated in recent tests by the way, though it is possible.

Yeah, I know that article well and I'm a big fan of Monkey Harris.

But in this case it looks like McLaren and Ferrari had the same opportunity... both had full support teams there.

I would have loved to see the MP12 slaughter the 458... but looks like the MP12 just isn't that good.

 

[sumbrownkid]

^Don't worry the Ferrari can catch fire, allowing the Mac to pull out a lead.

 

[DGiant2000]

I'm no fan of modern Ferrari's, but cheated in what way?

I know some manufacturers used to supply non-production line cars for magazine tests, but there's not really a lot you can do to the 458 as it's in such a high state of tune to begin with... I doubt the GT race versions produce any more power.

Much easier for manufacturers to find extra performance by winding up the boost on turbo cars than it is on NA cars. And if sticky tyres were fitted it would be easy to see from the tread pattern.

The EVO test says both McLaren and Ferrari sent a full support team for the Bedford track test. There's a couple of funny quotes in the article... such as the chief Ferrari bod telling the EVO driver to 'push, push, push and don't worry about crashing it' and shouting 'motivation' at him as he went out for his 2nd run

Quite correct, in fact the GT version of the 458 actually produces less power due to it's restrictor limiting it to 550hp

 

[mPWRD]

I was going over this thread and immediately thought of that Chris Harris article. Props, Jay.